Tim Berners-Lee Apologizes For Forward Slashes In URLs

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First Posted: 10-14-09 04:32 PM   |   Updated: 10-14-09 04:41 PM

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Sir Tim Berners-Lee, the creator of the World Wide Web, has confessed that the // in a web address were actually "unnecessary".

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Sir Tim Berners-Lee, the creator of the World Wide Web, has confessed that the // in a web address were actually "unnecessary".
Sir Tim Berners-Lee, the creator of the World Wide Web, has confessed that the // in a web address were actually "unnecessary".
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- RTIII I'm a Fan of RTIII 108 fans permalink

Humans are contextual creatures - everything we do has a context. We call this context "state." What is your state? Right now, you're reading a comment on the Huffington Post via some kind of computer display.

Yet web technology is inherently stateless; like a still photograph, it looks the same nomatter what _you_ are doing. The headache - or pain in the arse - created by the incongruity of human statefulness with web page statelessness is something Sir Lee - or _someone!_ - SHOULD apologize for! The waste of computer power, electricity, and human time in creating the appearance of state on top of a stateless web is enormous!
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    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:03 AM on 10/15/2009

This is sad that so few know this. The internet was actually created by a group funded by DARPA, and primarly credited to Vint Cerf. The Internet and Transmission Control Protocols were initially developed in 1973 by Vint Cerf, 16 years before Tim Berners-Lee got on the train.

As far as the www's, and the http's, and slashes, it is a little late for the "should of" and "could of". Is this news, or yet another attempt to take Al Gore style credit by this fake wannabe internet founder?

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:58 AM on 10/15/2009
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Hey now... don't forget Robert Kahn! I agree though, Berners-Lee got lucky and his claim to fame is somewhat trivial considering the web would have just as easily adopted https, ftp, dns, bgp, ospf, smtp, rmi, or one of the other hundred protocols that have been developed.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:28 AM on 10/15/2009
- Emmy2 I'm a Fan of Emmy2 8 fans permalink

You are trying to be funny, right? In case you're not: The Internet is not the Web. There is no dispute that Berners-Lee invented the Web. There's also little dispute that, until the Web was invented in the late 80s, the Internet was solely the purview of geeks, not the general public. If there were a Nobel Prize for Technology, Berners-Lee would have it. As it is, a couple countries have invented parallel prizes to the Nobels, so that they could award them to him. (And and while we're at it: Vint Cerf would *never* claim to be the sole inventor of the Internet.)

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:25 AM on 10/15/2009
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Now, that is what I call an unnecessary apology! Maybe we can move on to the ";" after the last statement in a block of C code.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:55 PM on 10/14/2009

Lol - was that Kernigan or Ritchie?

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:34 AM on 10/15/2009
- Zenith1959 I'm a Fan of Zenith1959 47 fans permalink
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For anyone who doesn't have it yet, Firefox with the 'Stumble" ad on, click the button and a random website comes up, lots of fun when you are bored.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:30 PM on 10/14/2009
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He needs to apologize to Al Gore, the real inventor of the Internet.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:21 PM on 10/14/2009
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Yeah!! I have to type in two slashes in order to instantly access the largest knowledge base in the history of civilization!
What a pain!
Somebody had better apologize.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:42 PM on 10/14/2009

It is a pain if you are missing your left pinkie. If you are missing your right pinkie YOUR COMMENTS TEND TO LOOK LIKE THIS.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:59 PM on 10/14/2009
- jnatch I'm a Fan of jnatch 5 fans permalink

I want the man who invented the necktie to apolgize

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:31 PM on 10/14/2009

it's true: I have always wondered why the // and the http: ...... this man must be brought to justice, face consequences, and knighted as one of the greatest man that has ever lived.
Thanks Sir!

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:28 PM on 10/14/2009
- SamEllison I'm a Fan of SamEllison 16 fans permalink
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Now he tells us!

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:13 PM on 10/14/2009
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i hate those slashes...YOU BASTARD...

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:00 PM on 10/14/2009
- rue I'm a Fan of rue 9 fans permalink
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The second and third w in www should be superfluous too.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:51 PM on 10/14/2009
- ssg13565 I'm a Fan of ssg13565 27 fans permalink

And the first one too. Most sites respond if you just use the domain name. They don't even need the browser to stick in the www for you.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:58 PM on 10/14/2009
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I think we should all just be able to "jack in" and just think of a web site to get there. But jeez. Then I would have to think.
Can't someone make it easier?

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:46 PM on 10/14/2009
- RTIII I'm a Fan of RTIII 108 fans permalink

Any web site that requires the user to enter www is managed by a lame administrator.

The www part is actually what's known as a subdomain and it's _entirely_ optional. In fact, it's just a name and there is no actual standard to use www.

A name like huffingtonpost.com technically denotes the 'huffingtonpost' subdomain of the 'com' domain, but we refer to the two together as "top level domains" because names of this form are the highest level mere mortals can buy / manage, whereas the higher level domains are managed by ICANN (if I've got the acronym correct).

ANY valid string of characters can become a domain - valid meaning it can't include certain things like the period ("dot") - so a domain administrator may decide to have a www domain and they can do anything they damned well please with it. There's NO connection to this and the ability to serve web pages. That has to do with the "port" that may exist and if so may respond to inbound connections - nearly always (by convention) port 80.

Got it? good. There WILL be a test.
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    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:06 PM on 10/14/2009
- ssg13565 I'm a Fan of ssg13565 27 fans permalink

At least he didn't use a backward slash. Only Microsoft could be that backward.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:44 PM on 10/14/2009
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What an imposter. Everyone knows Al Gore invented the internet. Just ask him....but of course, that's not as intellectually bankrupt as Gore's global warming claims. I think we need to set up a pay-per-view between Gore and Berners-Lee...a mud wrestler perhaps...to determine how this should be settled.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:24 PM on 10/14/2009
- dmyron I'm a Fan of dmyron 8 fans permalink

Maybe he should apologize for inventing the net period....

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:59 PM on 10/14/2009

How inane this is. Who freaking cares? Yeah, those slashes make my life such a chore that people in Darfur are weeping for me. Or not.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:58 PM on 10/14/2009
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