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Karzai Vote Falls Below 50 Percent After Hundreds Of Thousands Of Ballots Thrown Out

HEIDI VOGT and ROBERT H. REID   10/19/09 10:52 PM ET   AP

Afghanistan

KABUL — U.N.-backed fraud investigators on Monday threw out nearly a third of President Hamid Karzai's votes from the August election, undercutting his claim of victory and stepping up the pressure for him to accept a runoff.

President Barack Obama's administration has been holding off on a decision to send more troops to Afghanistan until a credible government is installed in Kabul.

Both U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton and U.N. Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon signaled on Monday that a resolution was near.

Clinton said Karzai planned to announce his intentions on Tuesday, adding that she was "encouraged at the direction the situation is moving."

A spokeswoman for Ban said he spoke with Karzai and the Afghan leader assured him he will "fully respect" the constitutional process even if it means a runoff against his top challenger, former Foreign Minister Abdullah Abdullah.

The findings by the Electoral Complaints Commission dropped Karzai's votes to 48 percent of the total, below the 50 percent threshold needed for him to avoid a runoff, according to calculations by independent election monitors.

Still, it was uncertain whether the Afghan-led Independent Election Commission, which is dominated by Karzai supporters, would accept the findings and announce a second round.

Karzai campaign spokesman Waheed Omar said the Karzai camp was waiting for the election commission to formally certify the U.N.-backed panel's findings, thereby giving them the force of law. Although short of an unequivocal pledge to accept a run-off, the statement appeared to represent a step in that direction after days of outright rejection.

Karzai's camp had complained about the panel of three foreigners and two Afghans which conducted the fraud investigation, saying foreigners were unfairly influencing the outcome.

Last week Karzai aides suggested he might contest the findings, setting off a series of last-minute diplomatic efforts, including visits by U.S. Sen. John Kerry, a Democrat and chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, as well as telephone calls by Clinton and British Prime Minister Gordon Brown.

Karzai met again late Monday with Kerry and U.S. Ambassador Karl Eikenberry to discuss the standoff.

The two-month election crisis threatens to undermine the Obama administration's Afghan strategy at a time when public support for the eight-year war is declining in the U.S. and the Taliban-led insurgents are gaining strength. The White House says Obama will not decide whether to send thousands more U.S. troops to Afghanistan until the political crisis is resolved.

However, U.S. Pentagon chief Robert Gates told reporters Monday that Obama may not be able to wait until the disputed Afghanistan elections are resolved to decide on a new war strategy. Gates' comment puts him at odds with top White House and NATO officials who say no decision should be made until the legitimacy of the Afghanistan government is clear.

Preliminary results released last month showed Karzai winning more than 54 percent of the vote in the 36-candidate race. However, proclamation of a Karzai victory was withheld until the U.N.-backed commission finished its investigation into widespread fraud allegations.

The inquiry was concluded last week, but the panel withheld releasing the findings while talks were held with the Karzai-dominated election commission that must certify the results and order any runoff.

The U.N.-backed panel decided to release its report Monday after the Afghan commissioners kept insisting on changes that would show Karzai winning outright. The officials spoke on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the issue.

Abdullah campaign spokesman Fazel Sancharaki welcomed the fraud panel's findings as "a step forward" and said the election commission had no choice but to call a runoff.

Afghans close to Karzai said the president feared the runoff was part of an Obama administration plan to oust him – a charge the U.S. has repeatedly denied. They spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not supposed to speak for Karzai.

Afghan officials say they can organize a runoff in about two weeks, which is close to the start of winter. After the first snows fall in the high mountain passes, it will become all but impossible to hold an election until the spring. A second-round vote would also run the risk of Taliban attacks on voters similar to those carried out during the first ballot.

For those reasons, Western diplomats have urged the two sides to reach a power-sharing agreement which would avoid a new vote and bring an end to the crisis. Former U.S. Ambassador Zalmay Khalilzad and others held a series of weekend talks with the rival camps on a possible power-sharing deal.

Khalilzad, who was U.S. ambassador to Kabul from 2003 to 2005 and who is in Kabul in a private role seeking to resolve the political crisis, said he thinks that both Karzai and Abdullah are willing to work out a unity government.

"There is every indication that the Obama administration favors a unity government rather than another vote," Khalilzad said in an interview with ABC News. "I think the most likely outcome is a unity government, but a government that will take a long time to put together, may not be very strong, and will not be necessarily a very effective partner given the internal disagreements within that government," he said.

Officials familiar with the talks, speaking on condition of anonymity because the discussions were confidential, said both sides were open to the power-sharing idea but were far apart on details. Karzai has said he would be willing to offer posts to the opposition in a new government – which falls short of a real coalition with clearly defined powers.

After the auditors' findings were released, U.N. spokesman Aleem Siddique said a runoff "isn't optional."

"It's a requirement of Afghan electoral law, and we expect the institutions of this country to follow the law to the letter," he said.

The U.S. Embassy called on the election commission "to implement these orders with all due speed."

Grant Kippen, the Canadian who heads the fraud panel, said he did not see any legal way for the election commission to reject the findings.

"Our decisions, our orders, are final and binding according to the law," Kippen said. "We've followed the law very clearly, very precisely. My sense is that the IEC is going to follow the law as well."

Investigators released only raw data from their findings, but it was clear that more than 900,000 of Karzai's 3 million votes were voided, along with about 191,500 ballots cast for Abdullah. More than 5 million votes were cast, of which 1.3 million invalidated, according to Democracy International, the election monitoring group that calculated Karzai's totals at 48 percent.

Karzai, who came to power soon after the collapse of the Taliban in the U.S.-led invasion of 2001, was close to the Bush administration but fell out of favor in Washington because of perceived weakness and indecision in the face of a growing insurgency which exploited Afghan public frustration over corrupt and ineffectual government.

Much of the electoral fraud appeared to have occurred in the south, homeland of Karzai's fellow ethnic Pashtuns where the Taliban are strongest. Taliban threats kept thousands of Pashtuns from the polls in areas where the president had been expected to run strong.

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Associated Press Writer Rahim Faiez and Todd Pitman in Kabul and Noor Khan in Kandahar contributed to this report.

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01:25 AM on 10/20/2009
We helped put a corrupt President in place in Afghanistan and now we find out that the recent election was blatantly rigged. What a surprise. We have done this in other places and no one complained.
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JShankel
I want my country forward
07:00 PM on 10/19/2009
Democracy is irrelevant. We will be supporting Karzai.
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TAIsabel
Suffer no fools.
08:51 PM on 10/19/2009
Democracy is totally irrelevant in a tribal society. It is not a homogeneous population. Half the country is Pashtun, the other a myriad of tribes with at least 25 different languages spoken in the country and all look to their spiritual leaders for guidance and leadership.

Historically, it has been a very loose confederation, with many concessions, under Shahs and Kings.

Our ignorance is trying to fit a round peg in a square hole for the sake of geopolitical power and oil.
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JShankel
I want my country forward
09:03 PM on 10/19/2009
I'm convinced that we have no idea at all what's going on in Afghanistan. Every mission profile I've heard seems to be in direct contradiction to the situation in the country.

But it wouldn't matter if every Afghan from Kamai Khan to Feyzabad was as democratic as Thomas Jefferson. Karzai is our guy. Therefore, Karzai won the election.
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RedneckDem
The top 1% stole my made in china bootstraps
06:19 PM on 10/19/2009
Karzai either isn't lockstepping to American interests (not military) or they are trying to send him a warning. Same thing happened in Iraq when the president didn't sign off on all of the freebies guaranteed to all of the oil companies and other private capitalist free marketers trying to exploit every industry they can.

The free market fundamentalists want something else and they will use whatever means necessary, including our military, to get it. In Iraq they de-valued the currency so American Companies could come in and buy newly privatized manufacturing plants for pennies on the dollar, then close them down so they didn't compete with all of the imported stuff they were going to start dumping into the country. Hundreds of thousands of un-employed people makes for some serious extremist fodder and viola, escalation of the conflict. Heck, Halliburton imported labor in lieu of hiring locals for the re-building process. Talk about self-fulfilling prophecies...
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ReedYoung
global mean temperature, obviously INCREASING
06:16 PM on 10/19/2009
So far, this is a more encouraging, transparent and democratic process than George W. Bush's theft of the 2000 election via the Brooks Brothers riot. Let's not get hysterical about foreign corruption that's far less than our own.
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BLUEBIRD1234
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05:54 PM on 10/19/2009
Afghanistan under went a radical change behind the screen under the leadership of the President of Afghanistan, be it election or side track the main responsibility of developing the country everthng will move as the president would want. In future too the money given for the purpose will be used for straightening the presidents personal position and the overall aim of the International donare countries is not of any importance to the administration.

It would be proper to close the project in Afghanistan in case a suitable partner is not found. This will gradually allow the population to settle down under the Afghanistan governments care as in normal course of time. staying in AFGHANISTAN any more is but a wastage of International effort and money.
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05:36 PM on 10/19/2009
Didn't it used to be said that "If you sleep with dogs, you wake up with fleas?"

I expect to hear a lot of scratching sounds coming from DC and Foggy Bottom here over the next few days.
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TAIsabel
Suffer no fools.
04:58 PM on 10/19/2009
Really, oh my goodness???? I am shocked I tell you, shocked!!

Please....!

Do the oil companies get a refund on their contribution?
outnow
Ban the bomb
04:03 PM on 10/19/2009
I have a great idea. Let's get a puppet in there that we can manipulate so that we can defeat the Taliban and get ourselves a pipeline. Already tried that, darn! Well, repeat until it works.

Anybody who would steal an election.... (except a Republican)...
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TAIsabel
Suffer no fools.
05:00 PM on 10/19/2009
Right on! Remember that the Republicans work for the oil companies. Somehow they have yet to fool the tribal leaders in Afghanistan. It will be a long, long time before they reach our level of debauchery!
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ReedYoung
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06:05 PM on 10/19/2009
1. Ignore 6 August Presidential Daily Brief entitle "Bin Laden Determined to Strike in U.S." and get attacked by Osama bin Laden.
2. "Liberate" the country where he happened to be hiding.
3. ???
4. Profit!!!!
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Whinger
I'm Just Me!
03:33 PM on 10/19/2009
Can fighting and dying to defend institutionalized corruption be justified any longer?
outnow
Ban the bomb
04:05 PM on 10/19/2009
OK, then we'lll throw in opium and a pipeline.
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eileenflemingWAWA
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03:32 PM on 10/19/2009
"You can't understand the Taliban without knowing about America's covert operations in the region in the 1980s. Back then, President Ronald Reagan's administration, mainly through the CIA, used the Pakistani Intelligence services to fund, arm, and train Afghan and foreign Islamist jihadis to defeat the Soviet army in Afghanistan. Pakistan subsequently used "channels built with U.S. money" to install in Afghanistan a friendly government -- the Taliban.

"Later, after the George W. Bush administration invaded the country and the U.S. ousted the Taliban, it installed Hamid Karzai as president and returned many of the old Islamist jihadis to power in his government. Thus, this peculiar, well-established fact underlies the current war in Afghanistan: the United States sponsored both sides.

"Only the Afghanistan Independent Human Rights Commission has called, year after year, for a moral accounting. Its surveys of Afghan citizens consistently find that the people want lasting peace, and to attain it, they would prefer some sort of truth and reconciliation procedure, like the one that took place in South Africa, to cleanse the country and set it on an honest intellectual and moral footing."

Excerpted from "To all the Sharp Dressed Soldiers Shipping Out"

http://www.wearewideawake.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1343&Itemid=222
02:56 PM on 10/19/2009
and what about the Sharia law? Will the 'newly established legitimate government' reconcile their constitution with Islamic fundamentalism? Are the hard line Sunni clerics just gonna lie down to please Obama's wishes? And how long will that take? Is that a deal-breaker? Can we support a government that legalizes rape? Are we really going to bend their culture to western will? And what do the troops already there do in the meantime? twittle their thumbs while dodging bullets? This is an intractable situation. A refusal to acknowledge that is just more Washington bullshit, and more US deaths, and billions more in deficit spending.
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TAIsabel
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05:03 PM on 10/19/2009
I presume you mean Shiite clerics. The Pashtuns are Sunni.
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ReedYoung
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06:12 PM on 10/19/2009
Are they? I thought most of them were adherents of various polytheistic religions that pre-date Islam. No? Some of them?

I'm not a religion scholar, I just thought I heard that on Discovery or something.
02:50 PM on 10/19/2009
It's a civil war raging in Afghanistan.
Karzai wants to remain in power as a dictator.
The U.S. is either trying to give the appearance that there was no election fraud or they are supporting Karzai's opponent, whom they cannot ostracize if he becomes the elected leader.
America is taking a middle ground. Their objective is to remain in that country.
Very interesting. Does the U.S. continue to support Karzai against the wishes of the electorate?
Let's see what happens from this mess.

One thing is for sure, if Karzai does not remain president, he would have to go and live in Western Europe or the U.S. There will be no place outside the presidential palace safe for him.
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realpolitic
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02:47 PM on 10/19/2009
Every time we get involved with a country there is the same outcomes going back to the Vietnam days, government corruption, crooked elections. Our history of transporting democracy is really a very poor one.
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Burkelbile
Dahlink I luff you but geeve me Park Avenoo
02:30 PM on 10/19/2009
Hamid,
do the name Ngô Đình Diệm ring a bell?
03:14 PM on 10/19/2009
takes me back to the laugh-in days with ruby begonia. thanks for the memory
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Burkelbile
Dahlink I luff you but geeve me Park Avenoo
04:46 PM on 10/20/2009
The older I get
the more I miss those days
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hark
02:23 PM on 10/19/2009
Meanwhile, at the top of the hour on MSNBC, the lead (non) story was - you guessed it - "Balloon Boy."
04:35 PM on 10/19/2009
Wouldn't it be fun to unleash a bunch of agitated ferile cats into a news roor?
04:36 PM on 10/19/2009
Typo=room, not "roor"
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ReedYoung
global mean temperature, obviously INCREASING
06:09 PM on 10/19/2009
Also, typo2=feral, not "ferile" and but it's cool.