Music Stars Demand Records On Bush Administration's Use Of Music For Torture

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First Posted: 10-21-09 11:59 PM   |   Updated: 10-22-09 12:35 AM

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A group of prominent musicians are joining a campaign to close Guantanamo Bay and demanding the release of records about what music was used during the potential torture of detainees there and at other facilities.

Some of the more famous names in the music industry are formally lending their prestige to an effort being led by retired generals, progressive groups and a former member of Congress to shut GITMO down. The list includes Trent Reznor of Nine Inch Nails, Tom Morello of Rage Against the Machine, R.E.M., Pearl Jam, Jackson Browne, Rise Against, Rosanne Cash, Billy Bragg and the Roots, all of whom are joining the broader National Campaign to Close Guantanamo which was launched earlier in the week.

Hoping to cast further light on the potential illegalities that took place at the detention facility, the group is also working to obtain records about why and how music was used (under laws authorized by the Bush administration) to effectively torture suspected terrorists. The musicians have officially endorsed a Freedom of Information Act request for the declassification of all secret government records pertaining to music utilized during interrogations. At least two members of the coalition, Reznor and Morello, have had their music linked to interrogations.

"Guantanamo is known around the world as one of the places where human beings have been tortured -- from water boarding, to stripping, hooding and forcing detainees into humiliating sexual acts -- playing music for 72 hours in a row at volumes just below that to shatter the eardrums," said Morello, in a statement provided by the NCCG. "Guantanamo may be Dick Cheney's idea of America, but it's not mine. The fact that music I helped create was used in crimes against humanity sickens me -- we need to end torture and close Guantanamo now."

The National Security Archives will be officially filing the FOIA request on behalf of the National Campaign to Close Guantanamo (NCCG).

The FOIA request comes on the heels of a renewed effort on behalf of the NCCG and others to compel Congress to complete GITMO's closure. The group launched a national ad campaign earlier in the week, in which it argued that the continued operation of the detention facility was undermining America's reputation in the world community and Congress' standing as a legislative body.

That spot, as well as the broader NCCG effort, was put together by retired Generals Robert Gard, John Johns, as well as former member of Congress, Tom Andrews (D-Maine), and Vote Vets Chairman and Iraq War veteran, Jon Soltz, all of whom have been vocal critics of the use of GITMO to house suspected terrorists. The Obama administration has echoed the campaign's concerns. But they have also all but conceded that the facility will not be shut down in the 2009 calendar year.

The decision behind issuing a FOIA request for additional information actually took root well before the National Campaign to Close Guantanamo came to fruition. Working with the New York University School of Law's Center for Human Rights and Global Justice, Trevor FitzGibbon -- a well-known progressive communications adviser -- began looking into the use of music as an interrogation method on terrorist suspects. Over the course of six months the idea of putting a microscope on this sliver of interrogation policy festered until he brought it to others who were pushing to shut GITMO down. FitzGibbon, who is doing much of the public relations work for the NCCG, was able to recruit musicians to the cause due, in part, to his past work with the industry on other political issues.

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The FOIA, which is officially being distributed on Thursday, will be sent to the Department of Defense, the Department of the Army, the U.S. Southern Command, U.S. Central Command, U.S. Joint Forces Command, U.S. Army Special Forces Command, DOA Criminal Investigative Task Force, Defense Intelligence Agency, Federal Communications Commission, FBI, CIA, and the Department of Justice.

It requests "all documents, including but not limited to intelligence reports, briefings, transcripts, talking points, meeting minutes, memoranda, cables, audio/visual recordings and emails produced by the Central Intelligence Agency concerning the use of loud music as a technique to interrogate detainees at U.S.-operated prison facilities at Guantanamo, Iraq and Afghanistan during 2002-the present."

The use of jarring music during the interrogation of suspected terrorists has been reported in many works documenting the authorization of torture during the Bush administration. At least 20 declassified documents currently exist that reference the use of "loud" music to "create futility" in uncooperative detainees. Among the artists whose music is believed to have been used include Metallica, Britney Spears, the Drowning Pool, Eminem, Bruce Springsteen and the Bee Gees.

Not all of these bands and musicians signed on to the NCCG FOIA. But others, whose music was not reportedly used, did so out of philosophical objections.

"We have spent the past 30 years supporting causes related to peace and justice," read a statement from REM, "to now learn that some of our friends' music may have been used as part of the torture tactics without their consent or knowledge, is horrific. It's anti-American, period."

Added the hip-hop band The Roots: "When we found out that music was being used as part of the torture going on at Guantanamo, shackling and beating people -- we were angry. Just as we wouldn't be caught dead allowing Dick Cheney to use our music for his campaigns, you can be damn sure, we wouldn't allow him to use it to torture other human beings. Congress needs to shut Guantanamo down."

A group of prominent musicians are joining a campaign to close Guantanamo Bay and demanding the release of records about what music was used during the potential torture of detainees there and at othe...
A group of prominent musicians are joining a campaign to close Guantanamo Bay and demanding the release of records about what music was used during the potential torture of detainees there and at othe...
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Frankly, as a fan of many of these bands I can only say it's utterly within their rights to demand the records. Even if I wasn't a fan, the music belongs to them, it was their property, and... more >>

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- New mikebarden I'm a Fan of mikebarden 10 fans permalink
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Has anybody filed a FOIA request form? The FBI sent mine back, claimin' I had provided insufficent information about mysek and I thought I gave them everything they asked for. I'd think social security # alone would be enough.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:55 PM on 11/16/2009

Regardless of if you think the bands sucked or not, it's still absolutely ridiculous for a musicians song to be used for torture. ALL musicians put their heart into creating their music and spend a lot of time in the studio, the lyrics to them mean something...it doesn't have to mean something to you, but to them it means something. I'm glad Colbert signed the petition. more celebs need to!!

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:43 PM on 10/29/2009
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I think those musicians are just upset because the terrorists preferred their early stuff. Here's my take:

http://ourannoyingworld.com/2009/10/26/gitmo-musical-torture/

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:49 AM on 10/27/2009

Oh, for the love of god, Juanjo:

Are you seriously trying to compare listening to music as torture?! We should release all the prisoners across the globe if that is the case. Then you can argue the food we serve to the prisoners, or the cots they sleep on (if not comfy enough) constitutes torture! Grow up. You know as well as I do, listening to apparently distasteful music is not QUITE the same thing as being beaten, humiliated (supposedly thru religion) or losing one's head!

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:29 PM on 10/26/2009

Interesting to note that Tom Morello apparently has nothing bad to say about the "crimes against humanity" committed by the Taliban or Al Qaeda.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:35 PM on 10/26/2009
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Music is an expression of oneself, if I was a musician I too would be angry that my expression was used to torture another human being.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:35 PM on 10/25/2009

Why don't these AMAZING artist write some great SONGS about Bush, Cheney and the Republican machine, the torture, the things that make people across the glove HATE us.... and get this into the new generation's field of vision? All they hear is Rush, Cheney, and the goons from FOX.... (which some of them naively think is actual news) ... WRITE SOME SONGS about this!!!!

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:34 AM on 10/24/2009
- ssfahrer I'm a Fan of ssfahrer 5 fans permalink

The Feds should turn those 'records' (or CDs or cassettes or even 8 tracks-- couldn't resist that pun) over to the courts ASAP-- so those bands can find out what the (Bush led) government REALLY thought of their so-called "music".... (LOL!) In a lot of cases, it probably IS TORTURE to merely listen to that stuff! at any volume!!!

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:40 PM on 10/23/2009

Only folks at HuffPost would find listening to music as torture. Ask Daniel Pearl about torture. Oh, that's right, you can't....

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:48 PM on 10/23/2009
- brady61995 I'm a Fan of brady61995 37 fans permalink
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dan pearl comments not nice. the gov said they used music to torture the muscians are not happy about that. this is not huffpost story. whats wrong with you.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:12 PM on 10/23/2009

I know, I know, let's not talk about true torture victims. Might make the "musicians" look as ridiculous as they sound. And re: "folks at HuffPost" I was talking about the commenters, the ones whining in agreement that having to listen to music repetitively is akin to torture.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:43 PM on 10/23/2009
- juanjo I'm a Fan of juanjo 6 fans permalink

So your argument is that because others engage in torture and similar violations of human rights, it is okay for us to do so? If so then where is the difference between us and them? Are we civilized human beings who do not descend to the level of barbarians who engage in such reprehensible behaviour or are we simply another group of thugs who are engaged in a power struggle with a similar group of thugs?

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:54 PM on 10/24/2009
- berrycooda I'm a Fan of berrycooda 22 fans permalink

Well, I guess this in one way to get attention. Haven't heard from some of these bands for awhile.
Maybe some lawsuits can be forthcoming for torturing those detainees with their music.
I'm sure a lot of people who weren't at Gitmo, felt a little tortured when they heard some of this music.
I think they would have been more tortured if they played
HavaNaGila (spelling probably wrong)...or some music from another place.

Why don't these musicians be more concerned about our economy and other things. How about why they shut Detroit down....
That's what Rich is singing about.
Something that matters to most people.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:41 PM on 10/23/2009

This is an informative article about a JAGC (lawyer) Navy Officer who resigned his commission over waterboarding.

http://www.military.com/NewsContent/0,13319,158983,00.html

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:20 PM on 10/23/2009

Anyone who has ever had a song stuck in his head knows how tortuous repetetive music can be. We know torture has taken place at the hands of American personnel. Yes, GITMO should be closed. All involved should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of international law. President Obama and Eric Holder have declined to see to it that Bush-Cheney war machine will ever be held accountable. Wonder why.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:44 PM on 10/23/2009
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I wonder: are the musicians and record companies entitled to public performance royalties for music played at gitmo?

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:41 PM on 10/23/2009
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Funny, I always thought if you wanted to REALLY torture someone you would strap them down and make them listen to Kenny G music. At first you think it's a piece of cake but slowly, just like with water torture, it starts to eeeeeeeat awaaaaay at your miiiiiind...

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:30 PM on 10/23/2009
- SOSTED I'm a Fan of SOSTED 9 fans permalink

Would you really want your music held up the standards for torture??

Maybe that is the objective of some (so called) musicians!!

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:14 PM on 10/23/2009
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