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Education Reform: Obama Administration Calls For "Revolutionary" Overhaul

LIBBY QUAID   10/22/09 10:49 AM ET   AP

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WASHINGTON — The Obama administration is calling for an overhaul of college programs that prepare teachers, saying they are cash cows that do a mediocre job of preparing teachers for the classroom.

Education Secretary Arne Duncan called for "revolutionary change" in these programs, which prepare at least 80 percent of the nation's teachers.

In a speech prepared for delivery Thursday, Duncan said he has talked to hundreds of great young teachers while serving as Chicago schools chief and later as President Barack Obama's schools chief. The teachers have two complaints about education schools, he said.

"First, most of them say they did not get the hands-on teacher training about managing the classroom that they needed, especially for high-needs students," he said in the speech to Columbia University's Teachers College.

"And second, they say there were not taught how to use data to improve instruction and boost student learning," Duncan said.

A 2006 report found that three of five education school alumni said their training failed to prepare them to teach, he noted. The report was by Arthur Levine, a former Teachers College president.

Their large enrollment and low overhead makes education schools cash cows for their universities, Duncan said. But their profits have been diverted to smaller, more prestigious graduate departments such as physics and have not been spent on research and training for would-be teachers, he said.

The government is also to blame, he said. Most states have paper-and-pencil licensing exams that measure basic skills and knowledge but not readiness for the classroom, he said, and local mentoring programs are lacking.

And most states and school districts don't link the performance of teachers to their education schools to identify which programs prepare their teachers and which don't, he said.

"We should be studying and copying the practices of effective teacher preparation programs, and encouraging the lowest-performers to shape up or shut down," he said.

Duncan noted the administration is using stimulus dollars to reward states that tie student achievement data to the education schools where their teachers had credentials. His department also is helping to pay for an expansion of teacher residency programs in high-needs schools.

Timing is crucial, Duncan said. A third of veteran teachers and principals are Baby Boomers who are poised to retire, which could create a milllion new teaching positions in the next four years, according to the Department of Education.

He noted Obama's goal for America to have more college graduates than any other country by 2020. It's a tall order – only three-quarters of kids graduate from high school, and of those who do, about half go to college.

"But to reach that goal, both our K-12 system and our teacher preparation programs have to get dramatically better," Duncan said.

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PathofTotality
Regret serves no purpose
12:52 PM on 10/23/2009
My Mom is a retired grade school teacher and worked within a small group of other teachers to validate and launch "Reading Recovery" in the state of Kentucky years ago. This program would take kids that just could not read or grasp the concept and work with them one on one with other styles of teaching until something "clicked". I have seen the results of her and other teachers like her work and though I am a little biased, it was inspiring.

BUT there is also the bad:

1) Kids being taught to spell phonetically (i.e. Kat instead of Cat) then be retaught in I think third grade.
2) "Reading Counts" - In a watered down version, you get points for reading certain books after a test. No one ever said a 5th grader couldn't read a first grade level book to get the points. Without X amount of points in a month you lost certain privileges (i.e. recess or art) until you were caught up. That portion might be dependent on the school but needless to say, my wife and I had a few words on the subject during a PTA meeting one on one with the teacher (who agreed with us but....)
YES - reform is needed and now is a good time to start. People complain Government is to big, well let's let them use that size to all our advantages. I voted for Obama and I support the idea to start now.
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Cheryl2
real Americans celebrate diversity
11:03 AM on 10/23/2009
Yes, education is weak in America but it is due to our culture here, as a country education is not important to our culture. Witness the absence rates in all schools, kids who miss weeks at a time because parents can't or won't get up and get kids to school. The attitude that it is the schools job to teach and not mine. Schools are now responsible for nearly everything for everyone. If I had a dollar for every parent that said "that's your job not mine" I would be rich.
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PATina
12:26 PM on 10/23/2009
I agree that we have a bad attitude towards education in this country... however, I have a hard time w/ the whole "responsibility" issue. If it truly is the parents responsibility to teach or educate their child... then what difference does it make if they keep their child home from school? Couldn't they teach their child better if they had their child at home w/ them? Absence only matters if it is the schools responsibility to educate and they are prevented from fulfilling their obligation because of parents who don't send their children to school. I also have a problem w/ the state "compelling" me to send my child to school 7 hours a day, 5 days a week, for 12 years... yet, if my child doesn't learn anything... it's not their fault, but mine. Why should I send my child to school if it can't do the job? If I hired any other person to do a job... I expect them to do the job w/o my assistance. Why are teachers/school administrations held to a different standard?

In other words... it's a shared responsibility. Not all on the parents... not all on the schools/teacher. Our problem is that we've made schooling compulsory... which makes it difficult for both the parent and the teacher/school.
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Cheryl2
real Americans celebrate diversity
05:22 PM on 10/23/2009
I agree it is a shared responsibility, but some parents refuse to be parents and help their kids when they need it. The schools cannot do everything for everyone, but somehow in America schools get blamed for societies shortcomings and are expected to make up for it. If the government would attend more to America's poverty and health issues the kids would have a better chance at school. How can optional education help America? We would just have more uneducated, unemployed and homeless.
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PATina
11:03 AM on 10/23/2009
I went to a university that started out as a teacher's college... and most of the students were education majors. One of my friends was an elementary education major and when she did her student teaching... I found out that these schools didn't teach teachers what to teach... but how to teach (my friend had to teach a 5th grade science class and had no clue of the subject matter she was to teach... but she knew HOW to teach it).

Maybe I'm wrong... but I think that while you can teach someone how to teach... that's not going to make them a good teacher. Good teachers, in my opinion, have certain qualities or characteristics that make them good teachers... and that's not something that can be taught or learned. Yes... there probably are some methods that work better than others... but what good are the methods if the teacher doesn't really havea grasp of the subject material?? I'm not sure what a better solution would be either... but I do agree... it would have to be revolutionary.
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lazercat2008
10:49 AM on 10/23/2009
After WWII the GIs came home and hit the books on the GI bill and made the next 40 years the most prosperous times in US history. Good call Mr. President.
10:18 AM on 10/23/2009
To quote Arsenio Hall, "Things that make you go hmmmm."

I find it very interesting in an article about education reform the word million was spelled with 3 L's.
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PAposter
Radical Progressive
05:20 PM on 10/23/2009
I find it even more interesting that that was your key takeaway from the article.
09:25 AM on 10/23/2009
Bush's attempt certainly didn't do anything, but then again he was not as smart as a third grader himself.
05:36 AM on 10/23/2009
Wait a second "No Child Left Behind" didn;t work. Did we leave some of them ? All of them? Let's call the next program " Learn cause I have no Idea How to Teach You".
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dspencer3491
12:58 AM on 10/23/2009
Focus on health care reform first. Then start a whole new project.
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springsm
11:42 PM on 10/22/2009
Lawse sakes, can't he finish one project successfully before he takes on the largest union in the country? Education is sorely in need a reform from what is taught, who teaches and what is expected. Education in this country has been dumbed down too far and parents expectations are more "my kid can play baseball, there fore he will be a professional, make him one." rather than "how can I keep him working towards learning?" There is a great need for rebuilding what the kids need to know and when they need it. And for gawd's sakes we need textbooks that are not written in Dallas, TX.
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madHenry
08:45 PM on 10/22/2009
I don't know if there's a moral to this much abridged story of modern education policy, except maybe this: don't put too much stock in what the President is attempting here. To leave no doubt, I am a supporter. But, to my mind, achieving "victory" in Afghanistan is an easier lift than trying to light a fire in Washington and lead the way in significantly and productively reforming schools and school systems across the nation. I have some ideas, grounded in quantitaive and qualitative/contextual analysis, that small high schools are preferable to large high schools for a variety or reasons. But for 50-60 the nation has consistetly moved (espcially in urban and rural areas) toward larger and larger high schools, thinking there are economies of scale to be had in bundling 2000-3000 hormonally charged young people into a single "physical plant."
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Cheryl2
real Americans celebrate diversity
10:36 AM on 10/23/2009
Where I live they ARE moving away from the large high school model, however the smaller high schools cannot offer everything the large ones do. Just think about it, some high schools are much larger than most rural towns.
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madHenry
10:44 AM on 10/23/2009
"however the smaller high schools cannot offer everything the large ones do..."

I haven't followed the empirical data in a few years, but I think that is, in general, incorrect, especially with respect to academic offerings. Large schools provide a greater range of extracurricular activities, more awe-inspiring sports facilities, and, to some extent, more specialized academic offerings (like French III or Mandarin, instead of French II and no Mandarin). However, regional compacts, provisioning/purchasing arrangements, mutual aid facilities and the like can be used to capture economies of scale along those dimensions of education service delivery. Some of the early work of recent Nobel laureate, Elinor Ostrom, identifies how these evolving, self-governing arrangemnets can make policing more effective. I think the same can be done in education, starting with smaller schools and more focused, purposive communities.
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madHenry
08:40 PM on 10/22/2009
I started looking at education plicy issues almost 30 years ago. The first investigation in which I participated (as a research analyst employed by a federal commission) involved a secondary analysis of the federal Safe Schools study. (Funny how everything old is new again.) Fifteen years later, during the Clinton administration, I was an education "advocate" in Washington and was involved (in a footnote sort of way) in passage of the Safe and Drug Free Schools Act, as well as the Goals 2000: Educate America Act, and before Goals legislation was passed, I watched essentially the same legislation die under George H.W. Bush and the ill-fated America 2000 Act. Along the way I was involved in research and debate centering around controversial studies by Coleman and others (High School Achievement) and John Chubb and Terry Moe (Politics, Markets, and America's Schools). Anyone remember Coleman or Chubb and Moe? Coleman, Chubb and Moe found (surprise, surprise) that private schools, especially Catholic schools, improved students academic achievemnt most consistently than your run-of-he mill public school. So the charter school movement was born (but not really since Nixon secured charter school experiments with federal dollars way back in the day. But by 1992 everyone thought chartering was new and so cool.) And that brought us (to the nation's misfortune) Bill Bennett and "Checker" Finn, Ben Nelson on the National Education Goals Panel and all manner of dubious moves in federal education policy.
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Cheryl2
real Americans celebrate diversity
10:40 AM on 10/23/2009
It is easy for Catholic schools to show greater improvement when they are not under FAPE requirements. That means they can cherry pick their students. As a public school teacher I see kids all the time that are made to feel like failures because they are average in a private school. If they can't keep up they are no longer welcome and removed.
08:05 PM on 10/22/2009
If three of five education school alumni said their training failed to prepare them to teach, why are we spending on money such programs. There is no point to wasting our nation's money on programs that are not beneficail when we could use it somewhere else. The Obama administration is right to try ans discontinue these programs. I think are teachers are fine and with all the education they already get from college, more money shouldn't be spent on useless programs.
06:41 PM on 10/22/2009
The worst-kept secret at U.S. universities is that education schools, even the best ones, attract the worst students. Maybe if teachers were paid better, that might change. But, the schools are not very rigorous and if they were, many of the students in those schools would not graduate. If they really want to improve education, overhauling education schools is not enough; teachers need to be getting better pay in order to attract better students to education schools.
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PATina
11:14 AM on 10/23/2009
I agree. In today's world... money rules. People pick majors based on how much money they can make when they graduate (and who can really blame them when they have to go so far into debt to get that eduction). That's why much needed liberal arts studies are falling by the wayside... there's not real monetary value to study them... although, a good liberal arts education is the best to expand critical thinking skills (that can be a big benefit regardless of one's actual career).
02:10 PM on 10/23/2009
I agree, but I would say that it isn't just that teachers don't get rich that keeps people out of teaching. I would have gone into high school teaching if the pay were just a respectable amount. Guys who graduate from business school (aka "filling in scan-trons school") and don't have any skill other than the dizzying ability to string together neologisms without saying anything are making tons and destroying the economy, while people who are supposed to be constructing the foundation for the future get very little.

And I could not agree more about liberal arts education being destroyed and the folly of that. Businesses are sending people back to school to learn how to write and yet they continue to hire and explicitly seek people with those ridiculous business degrees instead of people with an actual education.
05:27 PM on 10/22/2009
I do wish he'd quite flying around the country and making new promises when he's done precious little on the promises he made during the election campaign, and then there are all the promises made since then, as well as the promises he has broken.

Blah blah blah blah blah. It's time to quit jaw-boning and start working on some of those promises.
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Haditup2here
8 Years of Insanity and now you're mad?
05:53 PM on 10/22/2009
Yes, and I suppose that Obama can wave a magic wand and get Congress to do whatever he wants them to do.
02:40 PM on 10/23/2009
Yes, it seems that a lot of folks think he was elected dictator. I guess that 8 years of Bush might give someone that impression.
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mummblemouth
05:56 PM on 10/22/2009
Where have you been. He has been working on fulfilling his promises. I don't always like the manner he goes about it, but there is no doubt he has been working at them.
ThePeacemakers
Concerned Citizen
04:12 PM on 10/22/2009
The main problem is economic ideology. That's what's been breaking schools to keep them from the type of continual addressing of problems and maintenance of institutions.

Start there - and the resources will be there to begin the hard work with content, institutions, etc.

So if we start reform at the top: throw out all the people in DC and in biz schools still preaching failed economic ideology.