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Leading indicators signal growth, but jobs scarce

TALI ARBEL   10/22/09 03:14 PM ET   AP

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NEW YORK — A private forecast of economic activity rose for the sixth straight month in September, a sign the economy may keep growing early next year despite rising unemployment.

The number of new claims for jobless benefits jumped more than expected last week. Claims had fallen in five out of the previous six weeks, and most economists expect that trend to continue but at a slow pace, with employers still reluctant to hire.

The Conference Board said Thursday that its index of leading economic indicators rose 1 percent last month after a 0.4 percent gain in August, beating economists' expectations.

The group said the indicators' 5.7 percent growth rate in the six months through September was the strongest since 1983, but joblessness is weighing on the rebound. Dips in manufacturing hours worked and building permits, a gauge of future construction, were the only two measures out of 10 that weighed down the index. It is meant to project economic activity in the next three to six months.

The six-month rate is consistent with annual economic growth of about 8 percent, said Paul Dales, U.S. economist at Capital Economics. It's unlikely the rebound will be that strong, however, as the index may be "distorted" by the Federal Reserve's rock-bottom interest rates and market liquidity measures, he said.

The government will report on third-quarter economic growth next week. Many economists think gross domestic product – the value of all goods and services produced in the United States_ grew about 3 percent after falling for a record four straight quarters. But many wonder if that pace can continue in the current quarter and next year as unemployment rises and consumers remain hesitant to spend.

Lack of job growth is a major problem. The Labor Department said the number of newly laid-off workers filing claims for jobless benefits rose to a seasonally adjusted 531,000 last week, from an upwardly revised 520,000 the previous week. Wall Street economists had expected only a slight increase, according to Thomson Reuters.

Economists consider jobless claims a gauge of layoffs and a sign of companies' willingness to hire.

The four-week average of claims, which smooths out fluctuations, fell to its lowest level since mid-January. But claims remain well above the 325,000 that economists say is consistent with a healthy economy.

The report is "slightly disappointing," Ian Shepherdson, chief U.S. economist at High Frequency Economics, wrote in a note to clients. "But it does not change the core story, which is that ... a clear downward trend in claims has emerged" over the past two months.

Bank of America Merrill Lynch economist Ethan Harris expects the economy to grow at a 3.3 percent pace in 2010, even though the Federal Reserve forecasts the unemployment rate will stay above 9 percent.

There's a "shift away from being so reliant on U.S. consumer demand," he said. Spending on homes and apartments, along with businesses restocking their inventories could propel the economy even as shoppers stay home, he added.

On Wall Street, stocks moved higher in afternoon trading. The Dow Jones industrial average added about 97 points, and broader indices also rose.

A rebound in the housing sector and manufacturing is helping drive economic activity higher, aided by government stimulus programs and demand from overseas.

Caterpillar was among companies signaling that emerging markets like China and India would be leading the global recovery. The heavy equipment maker said Asia is its best-performing region. Drugmaker Pfizer and handbag maker Coach also said sales are picking up in Asia, and they're rushing to add salespeople and open new stores.

Still, manufacturing won't add jobs in the U.S. Hiring by the nation's restaurants, shops, banks and other service providers is needed for that to happen. Consumer spending powers those businesses, and as long as unemployment is rising and credit tight, shoppers likely will remain wary of big spending.

Profits and sales were down for another quarter at UPS. The world's largest package delivery company said this week that customers are shipping fewer and lighter packages. In some cases, they're choosing slower and cheaper shipping options.

The government also said Thursday that people continuing to claim unemployment benefits dropped to 5.9 million for the week ended Oct. 10, the fifth straight weekly drop.

Recipients filing for aid for the government's extended benefit programs dropped about 50,000, to 8.8 million in the week ended Oct. 3. The federal government is funding up to 53 extra weeks of benefits on top of the 26 weeks states usually provide. But economists say that decline is likely due to jobless benefits running out, rather than people finding jobs.

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AP Economics Writer Christopher S. Rugaber contributed to this report from Washington.

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expired
04:10 PM on 10/23/2009
So, are the cons still holding up the extension in the senate?
06:50 PM on 10/22/2009
An improvement in indicators could point to economic growth, or it could just mean a slower decline.
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katieandtom
01:44 PM on 10/22/2009
wherever this information came from it does not apply to the average citizen. the economy is not looking up. obama and his administration are trying to pull the wool over your eyes.

economy first, healthcare second - are you listening obama??????
01:22 PM on 10/22/2009
I expected it, because Rubin, Geitner, and Summers are top down guys.
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leftofcenterright
concerned citizen
01:12 PM on 10/22/2009
The stimulus was for the corporations not for the working class, it's like giving a thief more money after he just robbed your house, economic growth should only be measured by how many people are gaining employment otherwise is just a way of them telling you that everything will be OK after you go and acquire more debt so the cycle can continue and they can keep holding hostage to that debt.
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katieandtom
01:45 PM on 10/22/2009
i agree leftofcenter.
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TruelyFedUp
Ethics is nothing else than reverence for life.
01:10 PM on 10/22/2009
This story would not exist in a resource based economy - all basics of life including our homes, education, food, medical would be a natural right of every citizen. Technology would be used to handle most of the work. City centers would be universities. People might work one day a week to help handle work not done by machinery. Government would be of the people via their input into a central database where their idea would be analyzed and added to the solutions that benefit society. See www.thevenusproject.com for details.

Truly
12:58 PM on 10/22/2009
Guess that hope and change stimulus hasn't worked out that well for tha average American.
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katieandtom
01:46 PM on 10/22/2009
so far, it absolutely is NOT working.
12:38 PM on 10/22/2009
Eventually, we'll reach the point where new jobless claims trend downward. If only because businesses won't be able to function without any workers, at all.
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Dislikessocialism
Conservatives have better ideas
12:35 PM on 10/22/2009
I am confused. Liberals hate corporations but want them to hire peolpe. You want their destruction yet hope the unemployment rate goes down. We can not all work for the goverment. So which is it???
01:10 PM on 10/22/2009
You mean which false choice is it? None of them.
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dfranz
With Liberty and Justice for all
01:25 PM on 10/22/2009
Liberals don't hate corporations but apparently banks do. The unemployment problem is directly related to the lack of business credit offered. The banks were made whole by getting the TARP funds. Business needs credit to operate. The construction Industry alone accounts for more than 25% of the work force and it is now down 20% due to projects that have been defunded.
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katieandtom
01:49 PM on 10/22/2009
d, you understand........... no one else does. thank you.

we own several business, lots of investments and operate with moderate to minimal credit. however, BofA cut 60,000 from our credit lines last week with no explanation (a$$ holes), and we cant get a refi on one of our businesses even though it shows 100% profit growth which is unheard of.

banks arent lending, you are going to see more businesses fold and consequently more people losing their jobs and homes.

economy first, healthcare second - are you listening obama!!!???
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dfranz
With Liberty and Justice for all
12:24 PM on 10/22/2009
I blame the Banking Industry for the unemployment. They have virtually stopped investing in America and in American Business.

It is much more profitable (Read big bonuses for everyone) to jack up credit card rates, foreclose on homes and trade derivitives than actually use the TARP money as it was intended. Unfortunately Bush was President when that was made law so no real direction or mandates were made.

With so many people out of work the economy will continue to suffer. Now there are less people able to afford goods and services which make this country thrive.

Unless the Government forces changes, they will not come on their own. They don't have to.
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katieandtom
01:53 PM on 10/22/2009
d -it is so nice to see someone who gets it. do you own a business? if so, are you okay?

seriously, we are holding it together, but it is temporary. and if our house of cards start to fall, they are going to fall fast, hard and deep - to the tune of around 10M. it really comes down to, is it worth holding on or are we going to end up losing it all anyway and we should just cut our loses now?

its scary.

economy first, healthcare second - are you listening obama?????
11:56 AM on 10/22/2009
I have not heard of 1 *REAL* private sector stimulus initiative come from this white house.....the government cannot spend us out of the current situation. They can send band-aids but this economy needs an ER visit. It will all start with small businesses and the consumer. Where does most of our money go each week....mortgage? no car payment? no health insurance? no
look at your paystub see: Fed income tax withheld, Social security, medicare

Government get both feet off the brake pedal...
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Patriot86
Compassion is the basis of all morality.
12:54 PM on 10/22/2009
A private sector stimulus...what pray tell was the bail out-tarp? Unfortunately, you can not stimulate the private sector without safeguards to prevent outsourcing of stimulus money to China for example. Tax breaks for businesses that hire US citizen...tax increases for those involved in offshoring.
11:53 AM on 10/22/2009
Don't worry, Chinese economy is rising 8.9% this year and unemployment fell sharply.
Keep on shopping Chinese goods for the glory of the red flag, comrades.
12:23 PM on 10/22/2009
China does not realy on US only. China has been investing all over the world..making deals for minerals, agriculture, exploring for oil, geothermal, building plants , rali roads, building infrastructure in these countries,dams, brigdes, roads, u name it they are in all 5 continents. Their companies are the ones to watch. U will be amazed at the investments china is making abroad...and using the minerals they get to build their country. Guess what China has a 4billion copper plant in Afghanistan where US is spending trillions to bring democracy while china rips the rewards. U hardly see American companies in other countries investing like china does.
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Dislikessocialism
Conservatives have better ideas
12:44 PM on 10/22/2009
Time to learn Mandarin I guess?
11:52 AM on 10/22/2009
Do you feel "stimulated" yet?
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SiouxSayer
11:48 AM on 10/22/2009
I love how the troIIs elbow their way into these article posts as though they are going to convince most of us here that...oh, yeah...it's Obama's fault and King Georgie wasn't the worst president in the history of the Republic and was the originator of the Bush Depression we are living through now. But, keep up the effort anyway...I'm sure someone is paying you around $13hr to post blog responses to stir the pot. Honestly...
iridium53
Semper Fi
12:04 PM on 10/22/2009
We are all very well aware that the first cause of the Great Recession was the lack of regulatory controls on the banks created by years of legislative control by the Republicans. That that degredation in reulatory control started during the Reagan years, continued on through Clinton (with Larry Summers enthusiastically eliminating Glass-Steagall) and through George Bush II's reign.

Got it. It originally happened on George W. Bush's watch.

However convenient and satisfying it may be so assert, however, hat does not mean it was all George Bush's fault - the circumstances of the situation developed over time.

At the same time TARP was developed with the express assent of Larry Summers and Tim Geithner. And, TARP II was passed during the Obama administration. Bernanke has been renominated by Obama.

Additionally, Obama has had nine months of opportunity to take adequate action to stop the continuing tide of unemployment. He has not taken adequate action - as noted by the numbers. Outcomes count.

Furthermore, Obama ran for office under the guise of an intervenor that would take action. He sought and took the job with a promise of taking action. He has not. He therefore must share in the responsiblity of the continuing and growing damage to taxpayers as any intervenor who fails to take the promised action would.
11:22 AM on 10/22/2009
I thought Obama had a plan to magically fix all this? That was going to come into office, wave a magic wand to undo the last eight years, and move us into a new direction? He scoffed when McCain said he would prioritize things and focus on one or two priorities, the economy and either healthcare or the environment. Obama claimed that was foolish -- that we could focus on all of our problems at once.

Meanwhile, 10 months later we're still losing over 500,000 jobs per month. The unemployment rate (for those who are looking) + (those who looked for more than 6 months and have given up) is around 16%.

Yet he and his administration seem to be more focused on Fox News than anything else.

Good grief.