How Reid Found His Silver Bullet: Opt-Out Pitched Just Three Weeks Ago

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First Posted: 10-26-09 07:39 PM   |   Updated: 10-26-09 09:10 PM

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Two months ago, the public option for insurance coverage was being read its last rites. On Monday, it was alive and well after Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid announced that he would include the provision as part of a broader health care bill.

The announcement was a dramatic triumph for the progressive community, which had howled and hissed for months as the prospects for a government-run plan dimmed. But the story behind Reid's decision has more to do with backroom negotiations behind a hastily proposed idea than with a change in political temperament.

The compromise proposal that turned out to be the senator's solution for the public option impasse -- allowing states to opt-out of the system -- first came to his attention only three weeks ago, an aide confirmed.

In the weeks after the Congress came back from the August recess it was clear that reform in general -- and the public option in particular -- had lost inertia as a result of systematic attacks from boisterous town-halls protesters. In the Senate, the prospects of corralling the 60 votes needed to break a Republican filibuster seemed out of reach.

Democrats began kibitzing with each other to find a solution. Conservatives in the party were not on board a public plan, but liberals were equally sour on a bill without one. Former Senate Majority Leader Tom Daschle had proposed allowing state governments to set up their own government-run systems back in June. But that too had been ridiculed among progressives.

Around the time that the Senate Finance Committee was slated to vote on (and ultimately reject) two variations of a national public option, two of its members -- Sens. Tom Carper (D-Del.) and Chuck Schumer (D-NY) -- began informal talks about how to bridge the divide within the caucus.

Carper went first. The Delaware Democrat proposed a variation of Daschle's state-run entity -- in which states would instead be able to opt in to a national public plan.

"It caught on," said one Democratic Senate aide who was privy to the early conversations. "[Carper] started talking about it with other moderates. It seemed inoffensive. [Schumer] recognized it had potential with the moderates and tried to meet them halfway in terms of the having a state option."

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Days after the first discussions took place, Schumer brought back a counteroffer. Instead of having states opt in to the system, invert it: allow them to opt out. "If you are at the point of supporting an opt in then it is not much of a stretch to support an opt out," the aide said. "But on a practical level it makes a worlds worth of difference. It removes the barrier of creating a public option and makes the barrier getting out of one."

Significant hurdles remained. At the most basic level, there was nothing on paper to distribute to colleagues. Schumer and Carper began recruiting members behind closed doors and over the phone. Much of the attention was spent on the party's conservatives. But there was also a recognition that if they went too far, progressives would be offended. Sen. Jeff Merkley, a freshmen Democrat from Oregon, became a voice of support and a key player in the negotiations.

"We started talking about the idea of using the federal approach, about using a bridge to get our caucus together. Every single more moderate Democrat felt there was something promising in that approach, that it might be a bridge they could live in," Merkley told the Huffington Post. "It was a federalist approach. States become a laboratory. Some will chose one direction. Others another. This will allow members to go home and say 'no one, no state has have to be part of this if they don't want to.'"

It also didn't offend liberals like Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D-W.V.) and Sherrod Brown (D-Ohio), both of whom, congressional aides said, were supportive of the idea. And after the first report surfaced that it was being discussed -- in the Huffington Post -- the blogosphere was unexpectedly receptive. "It was almost too good," said an aide involved in putting the proposal together. "It almost created the sense that people on the left were endorsing it too quickly. It began to look less like a compromise."

And yet, even after the positive initial reviews, leadership remained skeptical. Staffers in Reid's office privately discouraged reporters from trumpeting the opt-out as a solution to the public option bypass, worried that expectations were exceeding political realities.

Schumer and Carper kept discussions going and brought the idea up in caucus meetings, aides say. And then, roughly a week and a half ago, they pitched another element to make it more alluring. Instead of allowing the Senate to vote on whether to write the proposal into health care legislation, Reid would simply include it as part of the merged product between the Senate Finance and Health, Education, Labor and Pensions committee. No longer would 60 votes be needed to pass the public plan. Instead, 60 votes would be needed to remove it.

"Rather than see if they would endorse it, we asked them: 'If we did an opt-out would that be the end of the world? Would it be a deal breaker?'" said the aide involved in putting the proposal together. "The ones who didn't like the idea signaled they wouldn't hold up the bill."

Reid ended up surveying his members and reaching the same conclusion: more than just bringing together the ideological camps inside the caucus, the opt-out (at least at the onset) wasn't objectionable enough to persuade members to support a Republican filibuster.

"The more he looked into it the more he thought it was a compromise that he thought could be supported by the caucus," said a leadership aide. "It's not everything he wants. It is not the silver bullet. But it is a way to thread the needle."

Towards the end of last week, after working the phones and talking with members, Reid settled on including the opt-out as part of the Senate's final health care package.

"We've spent countless hours over the last few days in consultation with senators who've shown a genuine desire to reform the health care system. And I believe there's a strong consensus to move forward in this direction," Reid said Monday.

His decision came despite the private worries of the Obama administration, which remains concerned that the 60 votes aren't there.

But skepticism from the White House isn't the only hurdle that remains. While a host of Democrats, including the administration, publicly praised Reid for standing by an opt-out public option, internal whip counts indicate that there are approximately 57 votes for the proposal. Convincing the remaining three caucus members that the bill should be allowed to get an up-or-down vote remains an uphill lift. Having a president that iis non-committal in the process makes it even harder. Meanwhile, the likelihood that the proposal will not have a single Republican member's support removes the bipartisan cover that some conservative Democrats are demanding.

Still, the emergence of the opt-out option and its ultimate embrace by Reid has provided a major boost to health care reform and breathed new life into the prospects of a government-run insurance alternative.

"I think there has been a big change in momentum since the late summer and a growing belief in the caucus that this is a reasonable compromise," said Merkley. "We think it is going to sell itself."

Two months ago, the public option for insurance coverage was being read its last rites. On Monday, it was alive and well after Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid announced that he would include the pro...
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    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:17 AM on 10/30/2009

I said earlier that Senator Reid does not have the votes. It should be obvious now that I was right. Olympia Snow and Joe Lieberman have both said that they will not vote for this bill with the opt out clause. By this time tomorrow the opt out clause will be a dead issue and President Obama will make a speech somewhere to declare that he does not favor an opt out clause.

I also said earlier that this bill will not be voted on before next year and because of that it will be shelved until after the 2010 elections. Next year about this time the whole cycle will start up again but without Harry Reid.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:54 PM on 10/27/2009
- PuffDragon I'm a Fan of PuffDragon 8 fans permalink

Congressmen Conyers and Kucinich have a petition declaring health care as a Universal Right, consistent with the US Constitution, and as proposed by Teddy Roosevelt back in 1916:
http://healthcare.kucinich.us/petition/

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:52 PM on 10/27/2009

That's nice, how many Congressmen do you think will vote for it? This is a typical Kucinich publicity stunt.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:59 PM on 10/27/2009
- MrCreosote I'm a Fan of MrCreosote 179 fans permalink
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CHECKMATE!!!!

All according to PLAN... & only the first step towards SINGLE PAYER.

The "drama", the bogus articles about "infighting" & the "Presidents reluctance to support the Public Option" (all to eagerly parroted on this site).. the nonsense about "triggers" A "vote likely or not.. it will fail) was simply political brinkmanship by MASTERS.

Those States that are STUPID enough to "opt out" will have to explain to their constituents WHY they can't CHOOSE for themselves.. & the party responsible for it will seal themselves into their OWN TOMBS.

The HOUSE is now pushing (& will GET) an accelerated schedule so as to make provisions like the elimination of "pre-existing conditions" & the health insurance industry's anti-trust exemptions as soon as early NEXT YEAR.

Coupled with the "Opt-OUT" clause, some SMART States who decide to choose against the Public Option can ALSO choose against PRIVATE INSURERS as well & set up a STATE-WIDE "Single Payer" system.

Imagine.. people living in California adopting SINGLE PAYER as soon as next year!!!

Their ECONOMY will SKYROCKET, as businesses no long FETTERED by the burden of covering their employees will be able to GROW & start to recreate our middle class.

GAME... SET....MATCH!.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:33 PM on 10/27/2009
- PWM I'm a Fan of PWM 238 fans permalink
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It is a step in the right direction.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:40 PM on 10/27/2009
- jsgaetano I'm a Fan of jsgaetano 193 fans permalink
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Now how is this "opt out" supposed to work?

The best of all would be if it required a vote by a majority of citizens in that state. But if it's something like a governor or state legislature could withdraw the state, that's a bad way of doing it.

Whether to be in or out should be left up to the will of the voters.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:39 PM on 10/27/2009
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BATTLE ROYAL

Our four major industries are High Finance, Manufacturing, Defense
and Transportation.

So my thought is, the only thing really going on in Washington
is a battle royal between the industries, and Public Option is
being jammed down the throat of disaster medicine by the
Big Four.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:20 PM on 10/27/2009
- niws I'm a Fan of niws 2 fans permalink

Well, on the bright side if this doesn't pass then it will open the door for single payer reconciliation.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:06 PM on 10/27/2009
- Mikeeee I'm a Fan of Mikeeee 62 fans permalink

This fail. You can spin anyway you want, but it doesn't assure "everyone" access to the public option.
What the health care system requires is a complete do over. It will require insight and courage to go ahead with it, sadly that's lacking.
O likes to keep bringing up Kennedy and FDR and to be honest I was hopeful he had the courage to be in the same league as those two. Sadly my hopes were misplaced.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:29 PM on 10/27/2009
- washlib I'm a Fan of washlib 31 fans permalink
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No Fail! This was a coup for progressives because we all KNOW that no state reps would fight universal coverage because their constituents would lynch them. But this gives the rw politicians an out and save face with their selfish, myopic followers.

In the end, the red states(who receive the highest share of fed dollars, and have the highest lifestyle-related morbidity) will try to fight it for a while, saving us tons of cash initially.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:46 PM on 10/27/2009
- Malkin72 I'm a Fan of Malkin72 45 fans permalink
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Exactly.

I have realized how partisan I am, that I PREFER the opt out to a full PO.

This could be the nail in the GOP coffin.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:03 PM on 10/27/2009
- Raster I'm a Fan of Raster 22 fans permalink

The real crunch will come when Deep Red States, with their gargantuan morbidity, decide to OPT IN! That will cause the National Public Plan to hemorrhage money. Taxes will have to be significantly raised, with the burden falling most heavily on Deep Blue States, as usual.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:20 PM on 10/27/2009
- Lucky123 I'm a Fan of Lucky123 45 fans permalink
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I agree, but I also think this is much better than nothing at all. Consider it a jumping off point. The states that opt out are going to really hear it from the voters. It may be fashionable in some conservative circles right now to be against health care reform, but as soon as those people start seeing that other states are offering affordable rates with no threat of coverage denial, they will change their minds rather quickly.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:50 PM on 10/27/2009
- Tim303 I'm a Fan of Tim303 82 fans permalink
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You have not been paying attention/are a plant/both. The public option was never "for everyone." So what?

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:23 PM on 10/27/2009
- Lucky123 I'm a Fan of Lucky123 45 fans permalink
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To h e l l with the poor! To h e l l with the sick! And, to h e l l with the unemployed! Who needs 'em?

Hurray for the insurance companies who raise premiums so high that people can't afford treatment, or go broke getting it.

Hurray for insurance companies who drop customers who are sick, even after they've paid into the system for years!

Hurray for politicians who accept large donations from insurance companies and then vote for their best interests over the needs of the people who they represent!

Hurray to unregulated greed that leads to leads to unnecessary d e a t h!

Who cares about the old adage, "A chain is only as strong as it's weakest link"? Just let those weakest links break and collapse, then exchange them for stronger links. Isn't that the American way? To not care at all about your neighbor? Me first, then me second?

Hurray for the obstructionist! Hurray for Joe Lieberman!

The people thank you! Those of us who are still alive and healthy, that is.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:28 PM on 10/27/2009

Republicans sentiments exactly, we should heap such praises on them more often.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:46 PM on 10/27/2009
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Escape from the plantation of your mind...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mteMQh5zD0c

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:24 PM on 10/27/2009

This is not the plan we wanted. It was a plan to pander to Republicans and "force" their hand. Force it to do what? Deny coverage for their states? That doesn't help the people of this country. I am disappointed and will continue to donate to groups that will get these knuckledraggers our of office, be they democrat or republicans. I am tired of "settling" for whatever these idiots in Congress decide. None of them have our interests at heart, it is just plain old game of politics. I am upset with Obama for not coming out and taking a solid stand for Americans. I really don't call this a plus in our win column. At the rate we are going, the war will continue to cost us dearly, the economy will sink and the banks will become rulers of the country. Oh, I am not saying repubs would be doing anything better as we know by now we would be in a war from hell if they had gotten in. And the banks would be even richer (if that is possible) and we would be holding the bag. I am just plain upset with the settling we just did for the republicans.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:06 PM on 10/27/2009
- tran23 I'm a Fan of tran23 9 fans permalink

The answer lies in campaign finance reform. FYI: Most Green Party candidates refuse corporate or PAC money. The corporate/pac money got us into the mess we are in now.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:11 PM on 10/27/2009
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CAMPAIGN FINANCE REFORM

Problem is, we need honest politicians to vote such a miracle into law.

So we need some way to force those darling paid actors to act
honest, even though they most likely will never be honest.
And a very best way would be to make it impossible for anything
but a 51 vote majority in the Senate to stop social reform.

For half of society has more wealth then they need,
and only way to keep them honest is to never give them control.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:19 PM on 10/27/2009

Tran seems like wisconsin dave is going to follow you whereever you go, but being you're one of the "intelligent ruling class" can you blame him? :) I agree with you all the way on campaign finance reform. This country's continuing democracy depends on it.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:29 PM on 10/27/2009
- Mikeeee I'm a Fan of Mikeeee 62 fans permalink

"the economy will sink and the banks will become rulers of the country."

Toward the end of the Civil War, U.S. President Abraham Lincoln wrote, in a letter to Col. William F. Elkins on November 21, 1864, "I see in the near future a crisis approaching that unnerves me and causes me to tremble for the safety of my country. As a result of the (Civil) war, corporations have been enthroned, and an era of corruption in high places will follow, and the money power of the country will endeavor to prolong its reign by working upon the prejudices of the people until all the wealth is aggregated in a few hands and the republic is destroyed. I feel, at this moment, more anxiety for the safety of my country than ever before, even in the midst of war. God grant that my suspicions may prove groundless."
49 yrs later the FED was created.
Woodrow Wilson signed into effect the Federal Reserve Act on December 23, 1913. And said the following just six years later.
“I am a most unhappy man. I have unwittingly ruined my country. A great industrial nation is now controlled by its system of credit. We are no longer a government by free opinion, no longer a government by conviction and the vote of the majority, but a government by the opinion and duress of a small group of dominant men.”
- Woodrow Wilson 1919

Try and keep up.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:33 PM on 10/27/2009
- Mikeeee I'm a Fan of Mikeeee 62 fans permalink

BTW, "Try and keep up" was said in the gentlest of voice.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:39 PM on 10/27/2009
- hollybork I'm a Fan of hollybork 65 fans permalink

"Having a President who is non commital in the process makes it even harder."

What? The President is noncommital about national healthcare? Wasn't it one of his signature initiatives and THE ONE on which congress has spent 7 months of hard labor? It was certainly one of two issues on which I chose to support him with my vote and my wallet.

What is the explanation for this since Obama will benefit more than anyone if the bill is passed into law, leaving a lasting legacy of expanded civil rights under his leadership? I am flummoxed if I know how he can be non commital. If he not willing to be associated with a bill that will not pass, and not willing to expend any political capital or muscle to see if he can get it over the top? What other explanation could there possibly be? This is not "change" I can belive in.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:06 PM on 10/27/2009
- Mikeeee I'm a Fan of Mikeeee 62 fans permalink

Exactly. It's very disappointing.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:35 PM on 10/27/2009
- niws I'm a Fan of niws 2 fans permalink

Easiest High paying job in America?

Republican politician, their hands must be hurting by now from sitting on them.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:05 PM on 10/27/2009

Republican working day - just say no in 1,000,001 ways you can. It's exhausting work, don'cha know.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:34 PM on 10/27/2009
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PERFECT IDEA

Most all have a conviction that they deserve more
and with a clear conscience take all they can take.

So the most intelligent half of society hoards all the money,
funds all elections, demands unending wars of plunder
and refuse to give us decent healthcare.

TWO IDEAS
(1) A miracle to give everyone a conviction that they deserve less,
which will give them a guilty conscience if they refuse to give all they can give.

(2) Fool the rich into believing that they would have more pleasure
if they passed their excessive wealth down to where it belongs.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:44 PM on 10/27/2009
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I like your idea.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:57 PM on 10/27/2009
- tran23 I'm a Fan of tran23 9 fans permalink

I don't know if anybody's told you this before but your thinking is a bit odd at times. Nothing personal.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:58 PM on 10/27/2009
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But odd only to you of the intelligent ruling class, because if everyone
knew the truth your excessive wealth would be no more.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:05 PM on 10/27/2009

Sorry Wisconsin I've been thinking the same as tran23.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:14 PM on 10/27/2009
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But I don't have an idea, sorry forgot to post the ending.

ENDING ---- NEED NEW IDEA
Now as a miracle is not ours to do, and no one fools the rich,
does anyone have a better idea?

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:01 PM on 10/27/2009

The greedy rich are tricksters and they only way to beat them is by tricking them using their own limited bag o' tricks against them.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:07 PM on 10/27/2009
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But ability to earn wealth is in direct proportion to intelligence,
and surely no one fools the rich.

For darkness is a pretense of good hiding evĭl, and no one has more
knowledge of good then the super-intelligent evĭl rich.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:12 PM on 10/27/2009

Wisconson Dave do you have proof that positivity has ever worked or will ever work?

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:02 PM on 10/27/2009
- morefromLA I'm a Fan of morefromLA 25 fans permalink
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I'm giving Obama some credit. He was criticized for not going Clinton on congress and giving them a bill. Rather, he stuck to his plan of letting congress take ownership and look what's happened in the senate. Reid found a pair, moderates and progressives negotiated among themselves without Big Daddy O, and found concensus. Meaningful health care reform seems closer to reality. It's not perfect, but it's better than it could have been (and not as good as it will be in the future). It's change, it's slow, but it's not small.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:42 PM on 10/27/2009
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and it is the way the government is supposed to work

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:50 PM on 10/27/2009
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Unless it’s a smoke screen to hide the fact that nothing will change
except 50 million Americans being forced to endure the plunder of
greedy health insurers. But no prediction from me, just wait and see.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:57 PM on 10/27/2009
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