Senators Who Could And/Or Will Screw Up Health Care Reform

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First Posted: 10-27-09 03:27 PM   |   Updated: 10-27-09 06:04 PM

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The public option: it (sort of) lives (maybe)! Or so says Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.), who boldly announced in yesterday's anxiously-anticipated press conference that the bill would contain something public option-esque. Since then, it has quickly become the fast-moving subject du jour.

Naturally, it's worth pointing out that Reid didn't manage to get behind the so-called "robust," chipotle-flavored public option that progressives favor. Nor is it the Chuck Schumer, "cool-ranch" version of the public option.

Instead, we get the "opt-out" public option, in which various states could choose to bail on the program after a year, if their public servants so desired. Political mavens are fascinated by the "opt-out" possibilities, because it flips the "Waterloo" script and dares Republicans at the state level to risk their political careers to deny their constituents this insurance option, potentially giving Democrats a brickbat with which to swat their opponents. Of course, also in the path of that brickbat: actual health care consumers! But hey! One poor working-class family's crisis is another man's winning election issue! Right?

Anyway, the matter at hand now is whether a reform bill that contains as limited a measure as the opt-out plan will survive the Senate. (The White House, as you know, would have settled for a lot less!) So, with that in mind, let's take a look at those senators who can, and probably will, completely cock up health care reform.

JOE LIEBERMAN, I-Conn.,
Well, let's start with the guy who has basically announced that he is going to wreck the bill. As reported by HuffPost's Ryan Grim, Lieberman says "that if a public health insurance option was in the final health care bill, he would join a GOP filibuster to prevent it from getting an up or down vote." This is not surprising: Lieberman lives to betray his colleagues. In the past, Lieberman has said that he'd support the even-more-useless "public option trigger," but who knows? Lieberman is basically the least trustworthy creature currently plying his trade in legislative politics. Anyone remember when this guy was going to be the vice president on the Democratic ticket? Wow. All that matters now is that he continues to garner the favor of the health insurance companies, headquartered in his state.

OLYMPIA SNOWE, R-Maine
There aren't too many Republicans relevant to this discussion, but Olympia Snowe -- best known for singing a magical siren song that has caused so many pieces of legislation to dash themselves to bits on the rocky shoals of bipartisanship -- is one of them. Now that Lieberman is signaling his desire to filibuster, the courting of Snowe is probably back on the table for Democrats who want to get the bill to an up-or-down vote. Snowe has said that she doesn't support the "opt-out public option," is more partial to the trigger, and, true to form, has maddeningly been working her typical "I'll probably filibuster it but who knows? Maybe I won't?" dance.

BEN NELSON, D-Neb.
The consensus on Ben Nelson is that he's not astute enough to outsmart a half-empty bottle of Mrs. Butterworth's, but somewhere along the way, some aide has convinced him that he can wield the most legislative power by staking out the most centrist position possible on every issue. In doing so, he doesn't do anything particularly smart -- he's basically one of those types of centrists who waters down the effectiveness of policy until it's just useless enough to get Republican votes. At times he seemed to support the opt-out, while at other times he seemed to favor the trigger, probably because he's too stupid to know the difference.

MARY LANDRIEU, D-Louis.
Landrieu is another one of these senators best known for behaving as if her intellect has been incapacitated by a mighty blow to the head. Two weeks ago, she was moronically blathering on and on about how "when people hear public option they hear free health care." Days later, she was telling the Associated Press that she wasn't "for a government-run, national, taxpayer-subsidized plan, and never will be," when in fact she is for all sorts of "government-run, national, taxpayer-subsidized plans." It's hard to say whether Landrieu is dumb or just inclined to mislead her constituents in return for lobbyist dollars. I'm guessing it's a little from column A, a little from column B.

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KENT CONRAD, D-N.D.
Back in mid-September, Kent Conrad rather forthrightly predicted that the public option "was not going to pass" and that the only thing that had a chance in the Senate was the junk that made it out of the Senate Finance Committee. Conrad is the leading proponent of the useless, stupid health-care co-ops that won't work.

BLANCHE LINCOLN, D-Ark.
Blanche Lincoln has been signaling her non-commitment to any health care reform that even smells of "public option," and as recently as yesterday, told Greg Sargent that she "has not committed her vote" to anyone or anything, including bypassing a filibuster in the Senate. FUN FACT: As the chair of the Agriculture Committee, Lincoln has been given scads of money from polluters and from Wall Street, meaning she'll have a hand at screwing up derivatives reform and environmental policy as well.

HARRY REID, D-Nev.
Yeah, yeah, I know. He's the guy who's standing behind the public option, or what's left of it. But this is also the guy who said Roland Burris would not be sworn into office, so, if it's all the same to you, I'll report on Reid's balls when I've confirmed that both have dropped from his abdomen.

OTHERS:
Right now, I still don't entirely trust Max Baucus (D-Mont.). Sure, he's now basically telling anyone who will listen to him that he supports the public option, but he's fickle. Plus, his office is basically one big whorehouse funded by the health care industry. Evan Bayh (D-Ind.) seems to be on board, but I'll remind you that Bayh is the founder of the Hyper-Timid Incrementalist Bullshit Working Group. Is the "opt-out public option" hyper-timid incrementalist bullshit enough? (Actually, probably yes. But still.) Also, let's recall that Roland Burris (D-Ill.) said that he'd vote against any bill that did not include the robust public option... we'll see if he holds to that.

But yeah, if it can get past all of these idiots, this watered-down version of health care reform is going to be just fine.

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The public option: it (sort of) lives (maybe)! Or so says Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.), who boldly announced in yesterday's anxiously-anticipated press conference that the bill would con...
The public option: it (sort of) lives (maybe)! Or so says Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.), who boldly announced in yesterday's anxiously-anticipated press conference that the bill would con...
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- mikebarden I'm a Fan of mikebarden 11 fans permalink
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Even though I am probably a greater admirer of his father than of him, if Evan Bayh stood up to Elli Lilly, he deserves his props. Elli Lilly is a big part of Indiana politics. But here's the thing about that: as far as pharmacutical companies go, elli Lilly ain't that bad. They're a big supporter of the arts, and they are involved in the human genome project, which at the point at least, is pure research.And I'm kinda at a point in my life where I'm wondering: Are legal drugs really better for you than the illegal ones? From MY personal experience, I'm not always sure. And here's where I'm at right now: I seem to be having a hard time keeping a sense of humour about some of the thinga goin' on. It either makes me mad or depressed. And I've got pratical matters to deal with. Maybe I shouldn't do this anymore?

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:43 AM on 11/06/2009
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Petition to strip_ Joe (no conscience) Lieberman of committee chair position. http://boldprogressives.org/majorityvote

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:42 PM on 11/01/2009
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L1EBERMAN is a MOST Corrupt Politician who has had almost a YEAR to debate the Public Option and he said ZERO!

He is the worst EXAMPLE of a "TURN-COAT" in EXISTENCE TODAY!

He has taken over $10 Million from Wall Street and Health Care Providers!

His wife gets money from the Health Care Industry!

What CREDIBILITY DOES HE HAVE? NOT ZERO but NEGATIVE 100%!

WELL Over 60% of CT V0TERS want a PUBLIC OPTION!

He is doing this for L00T and against the VAST Majority of PEOPLE in his state and in AMERICA!

Start Singing YOUR FINAL "SWAN SONG" LY1NG L1EBERMAN!

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:07 PM on 11/01/2009
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Speaking as a Connecticut resident I CAN'T STAND JOE LIEBERMAN. This is a man who has been so out of touch with his constituency it's sickening. I admit he is the master of deception first dressing up as a Democrat then now as a "Independent" covering his republican suit of armor. The man lost the Democratic race (because voters knew he really wasn't a Democrat) in our state then he cleverly turned into an "Independent" which allowed his republican voters to put him over the top to keep his seat.

I am firmly behind president Obama but Lieberman is a wolf in sheep's clothing and president Obama ignored how much of a annoying thorn and pre-Madonna Joe really is. When Harry Reid and the Dems wanted Lieberman's head on a platter it was Obama who held back the vultures.

Sorry to say it but if Lieberman really actually has a deciding factor in this reform (Obama's Reform) it will be on Obama because he decided to play nice with a snake in the grass.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:36 AM on 10/30/2009
- Eggsackley I'm a Fan of Eggsackley 9 fans permalink

I don't see what purpose all your bad mouthing serves. Abusing senators like you did will probably not make them more likely to support the public option. Let's see what they actually do first, and then go after any of them that don't support a strong public option.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:45 PM on 10/28/2009
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Clearly Lieberman hates President Obama.
He has done nothing to help the peoples cause, only gets in the way of progress.
Remember Lieberman wanted to be McCain's running mate, and endorsed Palin.

Lieberman and his new cohorts want to fail every thing Obama is trying to do to help Americana stay alive and healthy.

Those opposed to reform are turning their backs on America.
Clearly it is not about PRO LIFE, but LET THEM DIE is the new (repub) chant from DC.
Shameless display, only the troops and themselves seem to matter.

Surely $$$ for the war is way more important than life.
I am beginning to think, the plan is to just let people die, rather than allow reform to happen.

Republicans are dying also because the Ins Ind does not cover the SICK.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:48 PM on 10/28/2009
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These are very dangerous times. If we Democrats don't stop Liberman from being re-elected WE are the ones in trouble just like our great grand children will be if WE don't push our Democrats to call for prosecution of those in the Bush-Cheney Torture Conspiracy (conspiracy to torture is a Federal Law with penalties of 20 years to life). SIGN the PETITION calling for Prosecution at http://ANGRYVOTERS.org

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:49 PM on 10/28/2009
- Bronxdude I'm a Fan of Bronxdude 298 fans permalink

Forget bipartisanship; true reform will provide affordable options that include a public offering. Chuck Grassley is an idiot, charlatan and insurance cartel prostitute. For his efforts to sabotage reform, Grassley has received millions in blood money from corporations like UnitedHealthcare; he should be censured by Congress for treason. Real reform will end the monopolistic strangle-hold enjoyed by ruthless insurers like UnitedHealthcare. In Georgia, UnitedHealthcare executives colluded with sleazy republicans like Johnny Isakson to eliminate competition, with the end result being higher premiums, reduced benefits, and greater profit. With no competition, UnitedHealthcare is free to gouge Georgia consumers. When compared to the second quarter of 2008, profits for UnitedHealthcare increased by a whopping 185%, yet premiums continue to climb 6 times faster than wages. UnitedHealthcare is leading the charge to defeat reform. America spends 17% of GNP on healthcare, while France, Canada and Britain, respectively, spend 10% and cover all their citizens (America: the only democracy that does not provide universal coverage). 94% of health insurance markets in America are not competitive. Lieberman and republicans want watered-down reform so when it fails, they can point to Obama and say, “see, government is the problem”; thus, to ensure success, I want access to the same options enjoyed by Congress and 8.5 million federal employees. The public option will control costs, expand coverage and end the single profiteer system killing and bankrupting Americans.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:26 PM on 10/28/2009
- bobwalters I'm a Fan of bobwalters 27 fans permalink

Co-sign!

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:24 PM on 10/29/2009
- alwqb I'm a Fan of alwqb 18 fans permalink
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If Lieberman blocks healthcare then he can kiss his political career good-bye. Maybe that is already in the works, look how W is making cash despite his catastrophic presidency. If Bush or Cheney can get hired, the guy who stopped healthcare would make a fortune on the circuit. Remember, he IS the guy who spoke at the Republican convention and supported McCain.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:22 PM on 10/28/2009
- MakeAWish I'm a Fan of MakeAWish 21 fans permalink

He most likely already has a cushy job waiting for him.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:44 PM on 10/28/2009
- Bronxdude I'm a Fan of Bronxdude 298 fans permalink

Real reform means real choice—Private versus Public. There is nothing more American than competition-based choice, something republicans despise because the monopolization of the health industry ensures their uninhibited access to wealth, which translates into limitless political power. Universal healthcare works well in Great Britain, but is opposed by republicans because the Brits have succeeded in removing the constant quest for greed-driven profit from the equation. By using alarmist rhetoric, republicans are attempting to intimidate Americans into remaining loyal to an unsustainable and broken system that is exploitive, abusive, predatory, corrupt and immoral. Contrary to what republicans would want you to believe, socialize medicine works exceptionally well in America, as evidenced by Medicare, military medicine and the Veterans Administration. Over 44 million Americans receive their healthcare through Medicare, and the number of Medicare beneficiaries receiving prescription drug coverage is expected to top 28 million this year. Combined, the Department of Defense and the Department of Veterans Affairs provide health care services to more than 17 million beneficiaries. Unlike predatory private insurers, beneficiaries in these systems receive benchmark pricing and have patient protection rights because profit incentives have been removed to ensure quality-based, cost-effective healthcare. Republicans demonize Medicare because the profit incentive has been removed, which means they can’t exploit government-run healthcare for monetary gain. Even though as a B film actor Reagan was paid to villainize socialized medicine, 40 years later, Medicare is a glowing success.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:20 PM on 10/28/2009
- Bronxdude I'm a Fan of Bronxdude 298 fans permalink

John “take the money” Boehner, the United States Senator from UnitedHealthcare.
Tom “where’s my check” Coburn, the United States Senator from Cigna.
Jon “no maternity care” Kyl, the United States Senator from Blue Cross / Blue Shield
Mitch “show me the money” McConnell, the United States Senator from Aetna.
Blanche “let’em eat cake” Lincoln, the United States Senator from WellPoint.
Joe “not for the people” Lieberman, the United States Senator from MetLife.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:17 PM on 10/28/2009
- Bronxdude I'm a Fan of Bronxdude 298 fans permalink

Something is amiss. Bush and his evil puppet master – Dick Cheney – lie to manipulate American patriotism to justify invading Iraq, and conservatives are silent. Bush inherits, then squanders a $759 billion surplus, and conservatives are silent. Bush appoints a horse trader to head FEMA, thousands die in the aftermath of Katrina, and conservatives are quiet. Bush guts the Geneva Conventions, authorizes torture, and conservatives are silent. Bush ignores risky subprime mortgage derivatives, America dances on the precipice of economic annihilation, and conservatives are silent. Bush guts the Fourth Amendment, authorizes warrantless eavesdropping, and conservatives are silent. Bush signs $1.2 trillion Prescription Drug Bill, a federally subsidized give-away which balloons the deficit, and conservatives are silent. Bush diverts $1 trillion from the counter-terrorism struggle in Afghanistan, Osama escapes, and conservatives are silent. Bush signs unfunded NCLB legislation, the most intrusive Federal law in history, and conservatives are quiet. Bush sends troops to war with no body amour, hundreds die, and conservatives are silent. Bush deregulation exposes 2.5 million children to toxic toys from China, and conservatives are silent. Birthers delegitimize Obama, choosing instead to ignore 8 years of Bush inflicted plunder and ruination, and conservatives applaud. Bush frees 500 from Gitmo, and conservatives praise him. Obama talks to school children about being successful, conservatives cry foul. Bush restores cronyism in government, and republicans anoint him God. Racism, bigotry, and hypocrisy: cherished planks in the republican platform.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:16 PM on 10/28/2009

Lieberman, Snowe and Nelson place insurance company contributions above their constituents. They will reap what they sow next election. The voter has a long memory.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:58 PM on 10/28/2009
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It appears to me Joe Lieberman really hates Prez Obama and what he stands for. He has actively worked to take Obama down during the elections. He should be kicked out of the dem caucus, stripped of any meaningful committees for he is a TRADER to the American cause. He has become a meaningless old goat. It is time to retire Joe for good. His dis concern for citizens is nauseating. He has been purchased by the Insurance Industry. And for this he will become famous.

Unusual way to get attention, don't you think?
The new repub's slogan, "let them die, ain't no pro life here."

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:46 PM on 10/28/2009
- bensisco I'm a Fan of bensisco 6 fans permalink

Say it ain't so, Joe.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:41 PM on 10/28/2009
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