Birthers Rarely Leave U.S., Less Likely To Vote: Hunch Profile

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The Huffington Post   |  Rachel Weiner
First Posted: 10-29-09 03:21 PM   |   Updated: 10-29-09 05:42 PM

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Hunch, a new website that helps people make decisions based on survey questions, found some interesting stuff when they crunched the numbers on site users who described themselves as "birthers".

Asked a series of political questions, 12 percent of Hunch users said they did not believe the president was born in the United States. (About 2,200 Hunch users answered the question.) The Hunch team decided to see how they responded to other queries.

According to their answers, birthers are less educated, watch more TV, and read fewer books than non-birthers.

Some 43 percent of them have never traveled outside of their home country. They're 24 percent more likely to speak only a single language. They are 63% less likely to have ever owned a passport.

A third of them didn't vote in the last presidential election. Forty-four percent of them believe that the Big Bang didn't really happen and 47 percent don't believe in global warming. Birthers are also 19 percent more likely to believe in UFOs and alien visits to earth and 50 percent more likely to believe in alien abductions.

Interestingly, birthers are 115 percent more likely to think that human beings are naturally evil rather than good.

"What this data shows very consistently is that compared to those who believe Obama's credentials are legitimate, birthers are less educated and less likely to believe in widely-accepted scientific principles, yet more likely to believe in theories like alien abductions," said Kelly Ford, Vice President of Marketing at Hunch. "This may explain why they've passionately latched on to a birth conspiracy theory that by now has generally been dismissed as quite far-fetched."

This sample, of course, is small and unscientific.


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Hunch, a new website that helps people make decisions based on survey questions, found some interesting stuff when they crunched the numbers on site users who described themselves as "birthers". Aske...
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- Woodmist I'm a Fan of Woodmist 11 fans permalink
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Uneducated? Ah, yep. Just read any of their web sites. The typos would slay a 2nd grader. Plus the typos aren't ones of maybe simply hitting the wrong key in a hurry.(I can't type and make numerous typos but good grief their typos astound me) No, they are typos of lack of understanding, context and spelling..­.deliberat­e typos. They attempt to come off as sounding intelligent but then you read the typos there instead of their...HO­MOPHONE ALERT! LOL...and so on. Truly sad characters. Oh and many of their sites are filled with awful, violent rhetoric. Yes, for the most part they are little more than keyboard commandos but all it takes is for one of them to do something outrageous. I do not trust them.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:09 AM on 11/01/2009
- roannamac I'm a Fan of roannamac 28 fans permalink
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This made me laugh so hard. It was like a "duh" moment. Anyone who would stand on a corner with a big @ss sign that says "KEEP GOVERNMENT OFF MY MEDICARE" is just... well.. special.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:49 AM on 11/01/2009
- StillAmused I'm a Fan of StillAmused 262 fans permalink

"Interestingly, birthers are 115 percent more likely to think that human beings are naturally evil rather than good."

... but only because they know each other.

On the "up" side, they have the bi+ching market cornered by a wide margin.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:58 AM on 11/01/2009
- hoobit I'm a Fan of hoobit 47 fans permalink

Did occur to anyone that the results of the "survey" might just as well have been pulled out of a hat? There is NO age requirement, NO nationality requirement, NO anything requirement to take the surveys. Absolutely *ripe* for 'messing around' by *anonymous* any-aged, any-nationality, any-anythinged people with internet access, answering questions any old way.

Funny how a "survey" -even an 'iffy' one- will generate so much "I knew it," and "What can you expect from...," and "This proves the point that..." from folks who *want* validation for their beliefs/id­eas/conclu­sions on an issue.

What is incredibly sad, though, is that a "survey" - one that *explicitly* goes out of its way to state it is NOT scientific - has people jumping on the bandwagon to announce on this site how close the "survey" results match their *own* beliefs/id­eas/conclu­sions on an issue; in this case, about birthers.

Taking this "survey's" RESULTS *as if* they are in ANY way valid and worthy of discussion, makes just as much sense as birthers who look at "proof" of POTUSs Kenyan birth *as if* IT were in ANY way valid and worthy of discussion. Both are excercises in *complete* stu.pid...­currently, 13-pages worth.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:38 AM on 11/01/2009

Highly doubt it.
Being a new, relatively unknown site (ie less targeted/hijacked) lends more credibility, not less, IMO.

But go ahead and start an Obama poll-plant movement if it makes you feel better.

(Truthfully I'm surprised such a movement hasn't sprung up already, given the steadiness of Obama favorable %, public option, and other pesky stats.)

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:06 AM on 11/01/2009
- hoobit I'm a Fan of hoobit 47 fans permalink

despin ~ you miss the point entirely. A survey is NEVER valid if the respondents go *to* it.

A survey can only *begin* to be valid IF the survey goes TO the respondents. [And even then, there are many, many *other* factors that go into making the survey a valid one.]

The size and/or 'age' of the site makes no difference in the validity of the 'results' [although I'm sure Hunch's being written about here gives a great boost to their traffic and/or membership­...]

Breaking down the 'survey' results, 264 of the respondents were 'birthers' [12% of 2,200 respondents to that *specific* question.] When you begin taking percentages of that 264, the 'results' become even more negligible. [REMEMBER: respondents went TO the site, the survey-takers did NOT go TO them.]

And yet, people on THIS site are taking the 'results' *as if* they are a valid profile of birthers. All the 'results' are, is a totally UNscientific 'confirmation' of *already-held* beliefs/id­Â­eas/concl­u­sions about the make-up of a birther.

Look at the Hunch pages ~ who generates the 'surveys'? Would you take 'survey results' on what color to paint *your* room as valid and paint it that color? Would you put stock in the 'survey results' of what movie to watch? Why, then, take as 'valid' the 'results' of a 'survey' about birthers? The 'results' are *equally* irrelevant!

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:33 PM on 11/01/2009
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I am all astonishment.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:25 AM on 11/01/2009
- mudkitten I'm a Fan of mudkitten 9 fans permalink

And these are the people who worship Sarah Palin because "she's just like me."

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:24 AM on 11/01/2009
- medic628 I'm a Fan of medic628 11 fans permalink
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The salt of the earth!!

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:22 PM on 10/31/2009
- NJmikeV I'm a Fan of NJmikeV 49 fans permalink

85 % had more fingers than teeth.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:05 PM on 10/31/2009
- Mugzi I'm a Fan of Mugzi 13 fans permalink

Yes, educational level would be my question!!! I can guess though...

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:35 PM on 10/31/2009
- the964kid I'm a Fan of the964kid 62 fans permalink
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Thats a real surprise - and let me guess they're are uneducated too - right?

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:51 PM on 10/31/2009

While I believe that the birthers are not dealing with facts or reality I think that there are some legit questions being asked. But the birthers really shut off any real questions. They even paint anyone who has concerns or questions as out of this world. Like any President there are questions we should ask ourselves. My concern has less to do with Obama himself than the way that the people around him and in this country are reacting. To me on one side we have people who (like me until recently) would not question anything he said and when we did we would feel good about him by hearing him speak. I was myself swept over by him and excused things that I would have questioned with any other Politician. I felt he was going to be the greatest President, ever. But the other side there are people with a hate that is so horrible that they make things up. Okay now I am starting to see things that raise some yellow flags. And reading books from people who surround him I have lost my enthusiasm. And there are some legit questions we all should ask. We must stick to facts and not all get so emotional. The birthers are extreme. But there are still people who like I was still think Obama can do no wrong. WE all have to wake up, research, fact check and keep our eyes open..... just like we did with previous Presidents.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:35 PM on 10/31/2009

The birthers are not connected to reality. Obama was born in Hawaii and that is that. And there are issues that are very real and very serious. Plus I do think there are some questions about the people who Obama surrounds himself with. And the extreme over the top fawning on one side and the extreme over the top hate on the other side that is brought to light with Obama. In other words the cult of personality that I find unsettling. I voted for Obama and I was swept off my feet with his charm. And I think that the birthers certainly shut down any serious talk. As any president that has gone before Obama there are concerns. And real ones. We had concerns about Bush and many were real. And some were over exaggerated. With Obama there are concerns. But much over exaggerated. I wish the birthers would stop bringing up that issue and let us look at the real questions. I personally believe that we all should stay sober and look at the facts and the facts only. Not on innuendo. And I think that extremist are taking over both parties and taking over any real honest discussion. And it is coming from both the people who are voted against and for Obama.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:24 PM on 10/31/2009
- Pilate I'm a Fan of Pilate 28 fans permalink
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News flash! Birthers tend to be parochial, ignorant loudmouths that are too lazy to even vote!

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:24 PM on 10/31/2009

and the earth is flat ..so watch out for the edge.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:03 PM on 10/31/2009

In short The Birthers are morons

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:02 PM on 10/31/2009
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