Abdullah May Pull Out Of Afghan Runoff

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EDITH M. LEDERER | 10/30/09 11:57 PM | AP

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UNITED NATIONS — Talks between Afghan President Hamid Karzai and challenger Abdullah Abdullah have broken down, and Abdullah is likely to pull out of next week's presidential runoff, a person with knowledge of the talks said Friday.

An announcement could come as early as Saturday but more likely Sunday, the person said.

Abdullah, who was once Karzai's foreign minister, put forward several conditions earlier this week for the Nov. 7 election to be credible, but intensive talks between the two candidates and their supporters over the past few days broke down Friday, the person, a Westerner, said on condition of anonymity because the discussions were private.

Abdullah gave Karzai until Saturday to agree to the conditions, the person said.

The political stalemate in Kabul comes as President Barack Obama has been meeting with his advisers to try to determine U.S. strategy in Afghanistan, including troop levels. A weakened Afghan government will make it harder for Obama to get public support for his efforts.

The runoff election in Afghanistan became necessary after widespread fraud in the first-round of voting in August resulted in thousands of Karzai's ballots being invalidated, pushing him below the required 50 percent margin to win. Concerns have been raised about a possible repetition of the ballot-box stuffing and distorted tallies in the second round.

Abdullah complained Monday that there were no assurances that the November vote would be fairer than the first balloting. The story was first reported by CNN.

One of Abdullah's demands was to fire the head of the Karzai-appointed Independent Election Commission, Azizullah Lodin, within five days.

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He said Monday that Lodin has "no credibility." But Lodin has denied allegations of bias in favor of Karzai, and the election commission's spokesman has already said Lodin cannot be replaced by either side.

Abdullah also wanted changes in several ministries and a power-sharing deal, the person close to the talks told The Associated Press.

Abdullah was pressing for a power-sharing agreement with Karzai instead of a vote, but Karzai refused, insisting instead on a vote and then a power-sharing agreement, the person said.

A senior U.S official, speaking on condition of anonymity, wouldn't comment on the likelihood of Abdullah pulling out of the election.

"The U.S. remains committed to working with the Afghans to conclude their Presidential election process. If the two candidates agree a solution that is acceptable to both of them, in the interests of Afghanistan and is constitutionally sound, then that is a matter for them," the official said.

Despite the massive fraud and rejected ballots, Karzai's vote in the first round was far higher than Abdullah's and he is widely expected to win the runoff.

This year's election – the first run by Afghans since the ouster of the Taliban – was supposed to affirm the government's credibility. Instead, the massive fraud raised questions about the Karzai administration just as U.S. officials are debating whether to send more troops.

The Taliban, who threatened voters during the August balloting, have warned Afghans that they risk further attacks if they do not stay away from the polls next week. On Wednesday they targeted a U.N. guest house where 34 staff – including a number of U.N. election workers – were sleeping. Eight people were killed in the assault, five of them U.N. staff members.

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Associated Press Writer Matthew V. Lee contributed to this report from Washington.

UNITED NATIONS — Talks between Afghan President Hamid Karzai and challenger Abdullah Abdullah have broken down, and Abdullah is likely to pull out of next week's presidential runoff, a person wi...
UNITED NATIONS — Talks between Afghan President Hamid Karzai and challenger Abdullah Abdullah have broken down, and Abdullah is likely to pull out of next week's presidential runoff, a person wi...
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Happy Halloween Everyone!
Please dont forget to carve, light and set your pumkins on the porch tonigh!
It helps to scare the trollazoids away!

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:01 PM on 10/31/2009
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We will spend more on this war in one year if escalated that is more than 10 years of health care funding.

The news reports the dead but rarely reports those that return limbless, shattered and mentally tattered by these senseless wars.

Bring our loved ones HOME. they are not numbers to be played with, they are real, flesh and blood. They are our loved ones and this war is not worth the loss of a single drop if their blood let alone their lives.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:18 AM on 10/31/2009
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We leave....I­t spills further into ch aos.....
We stay.....s­till cha os..just more de ath....
more $$$$$.....­more strain on our country...­.
Get out....
NOW!

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:05 AM on 10/31/2009
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O/T Dede Scozzafava is said to have dropped out of the NY 23rd Dist race.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:04 AM on 10/31/2009
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I was in high school during the Viet Nam War so I wasn't paying too much attention. One brother served in the navy, the other had a medical deferment. I remember going to DC to see the "Wall" and I will never forget the names....r­ows and rows of names. My God will we never learn? Bring them home and quit meddling everywhere. Please we need an end to this madnees.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:03 AM on 10/31/2009
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I strongly agree. I was in elementary and middle school. We lost that one, and we will lose in Afghanistan too, because there is simply no way to win.

We can not police and/or protect the entire freaking world!

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:46 PM on 10/31/2009
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Hi there, "stranger"­....LMAO you got the av approved. Too funny. The planet is a good place to exchange code messages.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:48 PM on 10/31/2009
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@ Progressives:

I know, I'm as guilty as anyone, but when we respond to _trolls like Hosiery (aka beejer, ClotaireGavriel, et al), billybob and others, it not only solves nothing but makes them more effective. Ignore them and focus on the party!!! Can't wait for tonight. LMAO.

Besides, remember, WE WON and THEY LOST. That's why they come here, to insult the President, and anything or anyone progressive, to extract their "revenge". They are becoming more and more marginalized and don't want to go quietly.

Keep the faith, don't feed the trolls. Respond to their inane _palaver with posts of your own, not within theirs. That's how they get paid.

See y'all later.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:00 AM on 10/31/2009
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I'll try not to KK, but I can't promise.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:01 AM on 10/31/2009
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Here's my strategy on the Cold W@r: We win, they lose." We need another Reagan!

Ronald Reagan

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:12 AM on 10/31/2009
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I don't want to feed them, well, at least not anything healthy.

But we love them so. They're like our little brothers, you know, the pesky ones.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:18 AM on 10/31/2009
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Oh, geez, not you, too. LOL. I see you got your av approved also. Too much.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:49 PM on 10/31/2009
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Mmmm......­...but they so need us to set them straight. ;)

Well, okay, maybe not, but I don't feel right if I let their st00pid palaver just sit there.....­...

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:44 PM on 10/31/2009
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    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:59 AM on 10/31/2009
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New main - another misleading headline!

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:57 AM on 10/31/2009
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"TheLatestInHosery: Fess up ...no matter what Obama decides to do you will be against it! "Cut and Run" You'll be calling him weak if he announces a pull out. If he sends in more troops, you'll say he's another Bush...Bla­h Blah Blah!"

If he sends 40K, or close, he has my full support.

I will defend him on these pages and in conversations with friends no matter how badly it goes "over there".

Barry had it right when he said "Afghanistan is a war of necessity. It is a war we MUST win".

I'm serious and anyone who was here knows I never wavered on Iraq, from the get go all the way through the surge.

If he tries to "split the baby" it will be a mistake.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:57 AM on 10/31/2009
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I doubt your sincerity.­....

And your agenda is suspect as well...

No purchase..­..

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:00 AM on 10/31/2009
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Good thing Barry Whoever isn't making the decision.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:01 AM on 10/31/2009
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I am out to enjoy this beautiful FL weather. Hope to see y'all later, if not have fun without me

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:54 AM on 10/31/2009
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have fun - I am

cutting and running myself - things to do!!

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:55 AM on 10/31/2009
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Be well....

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:56 AM on 10/31/2009
- mcantwell I'm a Fan of mcantwell 412 fans permalink
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Later dwright.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:00 AM on 10/31/2009
- mcantwell I'm a Fan of mcantwell 412 fans permalink
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Enjoy your day Lady. I better see you later. :)

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:56 AM on 10/31/2009
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Hey, you changed back. Oh boy, tonight is going to be confusing, I'd better write things down for reference. LOL.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:50 PM on 10/31/2009
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Enjoy, my friend!

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:56 AM on 10/31/2009
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take care, ladynaga.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:56 AM on 10/31/2009
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Enjoy!

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:56 AM on 10/31/2009
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"Do you have blacks, too?" -- President Bush to Brazilian President Fernando Cardoso, Washington, D.C., Nov. 8, 2001

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:54 AM on 10/31/2009
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Condi Rice cleaned that up fast.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:55 AM on 10/31/2009

tell me again why we need to be in Afghanistan.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:51 AM on 10/31/2009
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Stay the Course??????

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:54 AM on 10/31/2009
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because we don't want a full scale invasion of pakistan?

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:54 AM on 10/31/2009
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You libs step out on the limb for human rights and social justice. What about the women and children that won't be able to work or attend school? What about the men that are in the Afghan nationial forces that will be eliminated by the Taliban and Al Qaeda? What about the Afghan citizens that will surely starve without NATO and American assistance? Your agenda is bogus and we know it.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:04 AM on 10/31/2009
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We don't. We are accomplishing nothing there currently. We need to get out.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:53 PM on 10/31/2009
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Hey, they had to do something with the "voting" machines they used here to "elect" Bush. Can't just throw 'em away!

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:51 AM on 10/31/2009
- mcantwell I'm a Fan of mcantwell 412 fans permalink
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You're brilliant

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:54 AM on 10/31/2009
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then fan me! :>D

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:04 PM on 10/31/2009
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TheLatestInHosery: Fess up ...no matter what Obama decides to do you will be against it! "Cut and Run" You'll be calling him weak if he announces a pull out. If he sends in more troops, you'll say he's another Bush...Bla­h Blah Blah!

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:49 AM on 10/31/2009
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Nailed it

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:50 AM on 10/31/2009
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TheLatestInHoes is so predictable I think she's Dovy's Siamese Sock Puppet.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:52 AM on 10/31/2009
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To be expected from beej aka ClotaireGavriel, both banned.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:52 AM on 10/31/2009
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The Party of NO! in action....­.
No power..
No ideas..
No leadership­...
No conscience­...

No good.....

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Van Halen - You're No Good

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:53 AM on 10/31/2009
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Elton John - Ma dman Across The Water

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    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:48 AM on 10/31/2009
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Cool dude Thanks. Happy Halloween. Where's your costume?

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:51 AM on 10/31/2009
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This is it.....BOO­!
Just silly old me...

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:54 AM on 10/31/2009
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BTW...your­s rocks...

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:55 AM on 10/31/2009
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