Consumer Spending Falls In September, Biggest Drop In Nine Months

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MARTIN CRUTSINGER | 10/30/09 04:42 PM | AP

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WASHINGTON — Flat incomes suggest more weakness ahead in consumer spending, reinforcing concerns about a ho-hum holiday shopping season and a sluggish economic recovery.

"This recovery is going to be very weak. Consumers are in no position or mood to spend. Their wages are down and they can't get credit," said Sung Won Sohn, an economics professor at California State University's Smith School of Business.

Concerns about the economy sparked by disappointing government data on spending and incomes sent stocks down Friday, erasing the previous day's big gains. The Dow Jones industrial average lost about 250 points, and broader indexes also fell.

The Commerce Department reported that personal incomes were stagnant in September while the all-important wage and salary category dropped 0.2 percent, as unemployment rose.

Consumer spending – which accounts for 70 percent of total economic activity – dropped 0.5 percent, the first decline in five months and the biggest since December.

The spending retreat reflected a sharp falloff in auto sales following a spike in August from the government's Cash for Clunkers program.

The overall economy, as measured by the gross domestic product, actually grew at a 3.5 percent rate from July through September, signaling an end to the longest recession since the 1930s.

But analysts said the income and spending report underscored fears about a weak recovery. The most pessimistic worry the nation could be headed for a double-dip recession as consumers, concerned about further job losses and their tattered investment holdings, refrain from spending.

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Some analysts believe that GDP growth, which received a big boost from the government's stimulus programs in the third quarter, will slow to 2 percent or less in the current quarter.

David Wyss, chief economist at Standard & Poor's in New York, said a recent spike in energy prices and other problems will depress sales in coming weeks, giving the nation's retailers another lackluster shopping season.

Gasoline prices have risen for 17 straight days to a new high for this year of $2.695 per gallon, according to auto club AAA. The increase will add about $50 a month to the typical customer's gas bill, meaning less to spend at stores during the holidays.

Sliding incomes and rising energy costs further darken the outlook for consumer spending during the holidays. People who do spend will stick to discounters like Wal-Mart Stores Inc. and Target Corp., and continue shying away from big-name department stores like Macy's, said John Lonski, chief economist of Moody's Capital Markets Group. Price will be key again this year.

"It most definitely limits the upside for consumer spending and scares the wits out of retailers," Lonski said, adding that consumers are "going to spend as though the economy is still in a recession."

"If you don't make it, you can't spend it, especially with the access to credit much reduced," he said.

A second report Friday showed that wages and benefits including health care rose just 1.5 percent for the 12 months ending in September. That's the smallest increase for the Labor Department's Employment Cost Index on records that date to 1982.

The Obama administration also released a new report that said about 650,000 jobs had been saved or created under the government's $787 billion economic stimulus program. Congress is currently debating expanding certain elements of that program including unemployment benefits and the first-time homebuyers tax credit. Many private economists said the new income and spending report showed the need to do that.

Unemployment, currently at a 26-year high of 9.8 percent, will edge up to 9.9 percent when the government releases the October jobless report next week and will peak at 10.5 percent in the middle of next year, Wyss said.

Last month's spending drop resulted in a boost in the savings rate to 3.3 percent of after-tax incomes, from 2.8 percent in August. Many analysts believe households will keep striving to increase savings and replenish nest eggs that were crushed by last year's stock market crash. That also would hold back spending in the months ahead, weakening the recovery.

But inflation remains in check. An inflation gauge tied to consumer spending edged up just 0.1 percent in September, after a 0.3 percent August rise. Excluding food and energy, the gauge rose 1.3 percent over the past year, well within the Federal Reserve's comfort zone.

Fed officials meet next week and economists believe they will again keep a key interest rate at a record low.

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AP Economics Writer Christopher S. Rugaber in Washington, AP Retail Writer Emily Fredrix in Milwaukee and AP Energy Writer Mark Williams contributed to this report.

WASHINGTON — Flat incomes suggest more weakness ahead in consumer spending, reinforcing concerns about a ho-hum holiday shopping season and a sluggish economic recovery. "This recovery is going...
WASHINGTON — Flat incomes suggest more weakness ahead in consumer spending, reinforcing concerns about a ho-hum holiday shopping season and a sluggish economic recovery. "This recovery is going...
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I hope these comments mean that Americans are finally awakening up to the fact that they have been had.
The Military industrial complex and Banksters who control America see themselves not as Americans, but as International Citizens and the world is their oyster.
Americans are just Sheeple , consumers and generators of debt- based wealth for a few..
When the economic system changes from industrial to financial / services based as it is now, you are only what I think was said by Kissinger or Brzezinski " useless eaters "
All over the world the system Americans call Lobbying is known as bribery and corruption, the government is owned by big business !
The freedom talked about so glibly is only the freedom to be sheeple !
I believe that as soon as the people wake up to the truth of their mental and financial enslavement and try to take back what is theirs, we will see the idolized military used against them in the streets of America.
The American constitution was the hope of the world, i grew up admiring America , with its promise of freedom and human dignity for all, I loved that America and the world needs that America.
For the sake of all freedom loving peoples all over the world we pray that the people of the USA can somehow protect that dream, it is one we all would like to share in !

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:28 PM on 11/01/2009

NO economic recovery. REAL unemployment is DOUBLE the 'official' statistics. Government has been playing major games with all stats for a while now - both parties are to blame.

good articles http://financeopinionss.blogspot.com

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:48 PM on 11/01/2009
- Chicago48 I'm a Fan of Chicago48 10 fans permalink

Well, I just came from shopping in downtown Chicago and at least Marshall's was packed. people were buying cartfuls of clothing. Now, maybe it's only Chicago, and maybe there are deals & discounts to be had, but people are buying here. the big grocery stores are slashing prices, and people are buying food here.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:40 PM on 10/31/2009

Leadership comes from the top. I like Obama but I don't think he is an original thinker. Why would he put the same people in place who originally caused the problem? Tim is in way over his head. If he could not manage his own finances how could he manage a nation's? Most of the stuff we see coming down the pipeline as bills and policy have been in the back of the file cabinet for years. Where are the original ideas that are more appropriate to this time in history and now? For our government as a whole common sense has left the buildings.

We have been saying the same thing since last year WE THE PEOPLE ARE REJECTING CONSUMERISM AND CANNOT UNDERSTAND WHY OUR GDP IS BASED ON IT. Now you would have thought they would have taken measures to course correct, but, no they are still following the Havard Business School model of pushing paper and looking for cheaper labor markets. Most citizens know they need cash reserves to keep between them and being on the curb with the crap they were inspired to buy on credit or to buy period. The more crap you have, the more crap you have to worry about. Hey congress cut the crap.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:59 PM on 10/31/2009

3.5%GDP growth cruses estimates, but the GOP talking heads will try to downplay it this weekend.

good articles http://financeopinionss.blogspot.com

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:06 AM on 10/31/2009
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Quick lesson in economics, people who have lost their jobs do not buy new houses, new cars or spend excess money on "things". Consumer spending will not improve until our socialist leaning government figures out how to create jobs and put people back to work.

Hint, discourage businesses from firing American workers and replacing them with workers from India, encourage small business growth (not new taxes) which has always been the driving engine in our economy.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:06 AM on 10/31/2009

The gross domestic product, the broadest measure of economic health, expanded at an annual rate of 3.5 percent in the third quarter, and our GDP is based on consumerism i.e. utilizing finance products.

And consumer spending in September declined considerablely leads one to believe that those bank interest rate hikes and overdraft fees are fueling the GDP or something must be.

Cash for clunkers--­translatio­n we just got you locked (jailed) into a 3-7 year (loan) banking product. $8,000 first time buyers incentive-­translatio­n we just got you locked (jailed) into 30 year or whatever creative package you latch on to (loan) banking product. Oh, but you are supporting the economy. Keep supporting the economy. And by the way your wages will be the same 5 years from now until we recover.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:40 PM on 10/30/2009

I guess the struggling, shrinking middle class didn't get the message that the recession is over.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:43 PM on 10/30/2009

Hard to get it from a tent or in a storage unit.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szT6U9z5X7Y

Ok, for people who are fed up with the fluff and creative marketing.

For this holiday season for the best interest of American citizens struggling to make ends meet, or to get through another day of joblessness and hopelessness everywhere across our nation. The rest of us still surviving the economic crisis are opting out utilizing financial protest by not buying into the consumerism of the holidays. This includes not using banking & credit products for holiday purchases.

Starting the boycott on Black Friday November 27, 2009. Spread the word!

Basically, only purchase what we essentially need and leave the cheap Chinese crap on the shelves. Beforehand writing or calling congress, making it clear if they don’t start doing something proactive that we can see or approve of to help the plight of ordinary Americans over Wall Street or the Banking Industry then this country can look for other ways to make up for the GDP losses else where. Hey congress, get it from the banking industry or Wall Street through heavy taxation on bonuses. We have already begun our protesting.

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    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:56 PM on 10/30/2009

Alas, I doubt if many people want to display the discipline it would take to make the financial industry stand up and take notice.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:37 PM on 10/30/2009
- xlntcat I'm a Fan of xlntcat 87 fans permalink

Well, there is a factor omitted from these conclusion and that is that consumer's may have grown up and got smarter and are paying of credit card debt and actually saving versus spending. Consumers cannot go back to spending 125% of earnings and saving zero which was are national average before the crash. The banks and Wall Street need to get over it. We declined into a nation without products to sell. Cutting up pieces of paper which no one can evaluate and selling them all over the world is not a sustainable economy.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:55 AM on 10/31/2009
- Patriot86 I'm a Fan of Patriot86 33 fans permalink

This is not good news for an economy that has chucked the manufacturing business model and adopted a consumer driven economic model...which I have always maintained can not work. In order to be a great economic power, one must produce things not just consume...when we spend we help out domestic retailers a little...but retail has the least profit potential of any part of the manufacturing process. in order to up their profits Wall Streeters and traders have shipped off the jobs that maintained our economy=-kept it afloat. They had short term profit and may squeeze out a bit more with their moving money around and short selling but they can not create prosperity for themselves or anyone else long term.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:20 AM on 10/31/2009

REAL unemployment is DOUBLE the 'official' statistics. Government has been playing major games with all stats for a while now - both parties are to blame.

good articles to http://financeopinionss.blogspot.com

Also Barney Frank sucks.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:48 PM on 10/30/2009

iT MAY BE TIME FOR THE PEOPLE OF THE United States TO FORM A LOBBY to lobby against the Corporations. . . . I see no reason they should be allowed citizen ship or rights based on their behavior. Pathological Behavior usually loses voting rights for most Americans.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:13 PM on 10/30/2009
- studmoose I'm a Fan of studmoose 30 fans permalink
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Hmmm...

Buy off the people in our government who are being bought off. Interesting concept. Would this go to the highest paying grafter or the grafter who consistantly provides money over the years?

If the people give a politician $100K to vote one way and Big Pharma gives $400K a year over three years, who wins?

Why not just make is all illegal and then this matter would be put to bed?

Uh Oh. Reality strikes. Our politicians are up for sale. In Dante's Inferno, politicians who accepted graft would go to hell. Apparently, the introduction of Dante's Inferno into the Catholic disciplinary code is no longer an effective control mechanism.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:32 PM on 10/30/2009

"Why not just make is all illegal and then this matter would be put to bed?"

The glitch in that plan is that congress would have to enact that law. Fat chance of the ever happening. They certainly will not vote against their own money stream. We don't have a snowballs chance of changing this. We are doomed, I'm quite sure.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:07 AM on 11/01/2009
    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:48 PM on 10/31/2009
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So the economy is up only because of military and other government spending.

Our boom industries are useless wars and the equipment that they need, auto subsidies, new homeowner housing subsidies and state government subsidies.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:17 PM on 10/30/2009
- xlntcat I'm a Fan of xlntcat 87 fans permalink

That isn't true. If you examine the third quarter there are gains across all sectors many totally unrelated to stimulus or to military spending. However, we will need new innovation in real products in order to come back from this recession. We don't make anything.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:59 AM on 10/31/2009
- Patriot86 I'm a Fan of Patriot86 33 fans permalink

We manufacture war materials in other countries increasingly...so our economy is in tough shape.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:23 AM on 10/31/2009
- Chicago48 I'm a Fan of Chicago48 10 fans permalink

The govt has always been the employer of last resort. It's a very uneven mixed report, nobody knows nothing. Honestly....the GAO and Bureau of Labor Stats are the only way we know if anything is happening.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:41 PM on 10/31/2009
- sc300nc I'm a Fan of sc300nc 53 fans permalink

Amazing news considering all of the jobs Obama created...HAH!

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:48 PM on 10/30/2009
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After 8 years of Bush job losses and anemic job growth which was covered up by phony unemployment stats where millions of workers disappeared to make the stats look better.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:20 PM on 10/30/2009
- xlntcat I'm a Fan of xlntcat 87 fans permalink

We started losing jobs in December of 2007 and now have a huge whole. The government cannot create all the jobs we need in order to bring unemployment down. The private sector has to start hiring again. Did you think Obama had a magic wand? Are you math skills so poor that you thought that 787 Billion could fill a 3 trillion dollar hole. That isn't possible.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:02 AM on 10/31/2009
- studmoose I'm a Fan of studmoose 30 fans permalink
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Duh...

No one wants to use their credit cards anymore. Buy someting on sale and pay 20% or more in interest on them. Look what those hight rates did to car sales back in the late 70s and early 80s. I remember car rates being 21%.

The gift to the family is getting out of debt and having financial freedom.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:43 PM on 10/30/2009
- Patriot86 I'm a Fan of Patriot86 33 fans permalink

Getting out of debt is a good thing but can not protect a family from a seriously bad economy and those who believe this are deceiving themselves. The idea that Americans caused this is wrong and the idea that we can fix it by shedding debt is wrong also.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:25 AM on 10/31/2009
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To the "chicken-littles" on this blog: It took 5 years after the crash of '29 for GDP to rebound. 5 years! Even then, GDP was only 60% of previous '29 high. The stock market is 70% off its high in 2007. It took 21 years for the stock market to recover to 70% of peak after '29. It has taken 2 years to recover 70% of peak value in this "great recession." Ok. The so-called "captains of industry & finance" need to start hiring people again plain and simple.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:36 PM on 10/30/2009
- studmoose I'm a Fan of studmoose 30 fans permalink
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The economy after the Great Depression never fully recovered until the US entered WWII.

The best way to jump start an economy is by going to war. Unfortunately, the war card was been played out with Bush Sr. and then played out again by GWB. A mild level of conflict is what keeps the worlds economies going.

But now were're seeing what happens when a less-than-­intelligen­t person starts a war because they have 'daddy issues'.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:26 PM on 10/30/2009
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The point is... Imagine if WWII had not been fought but we had spent the $Billions & $Billions on the good ol' USA instead of ships at the bottom of the Atlantic or Tanks rusting in the Sahara or the Pacific? Plus, we would not have had to rebuild Europe and Asia afterwards.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:32 PM on 10/30/2009
- Patriot86 I'm a Fan of Patriot86 33 fans permalink

The wars was merely a giant employment and stimulus spending plan. You could have dumped all the war materials into the ocean and had the guys did ditches the effect would have been the same. We do need more stimulus and more out and and out jobs programs.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:26 AM on 10/31/2009
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The only reason why the economy of the U.S. recovered after WWII was due to the fact that U.S. had put in mandates that France and other countries that had destruction after the War were to purchase and accept American made products in reconstruction if the U.S. was to aid them in rebuilding. . . . . pretty much the position that we are finding ourselves in now with China.

However, that is something that others fail to mention.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:52 AM on 11/01/2009
- JoeBlough I'm a Fan of JoeBlough 59 fans permalink
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Why would this be a surprise to sentient beings?

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:32 PM on 10/30/2009
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