Ford Workers Reject Contract changes

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DEE-ANN DURBIN and TOM KRISHER | 10/31/09 02:52 PM | AP

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DETROIT — Ford Motor Co. workers have overwhelmingly rejected contract changes that would have allowed the automaker to cut labor costs, leaving Ford at a disadvantage to its Detroit rivals as it continues its struggle to return to profitability.

The United Auto Workers union had given local unions until Monday to complete voting. But a person briefed on the voting said Saturday that the contract changes have been rejected by large margins. The person asked not to be named because the UAW hasn't announced the results yet.

The UAW and Ford agreed to the contract changes several weeks ago, but Ford workers needed to ratify them. Ford has 41,000 UAW-represented workers.

Two large union locals in Kentucky and Ford's home city of Dearborn rejected the contract Friday, sealing its fate. Those unions together represent 13,000 Ford workers. Exact tallies weren't available, but at least 12 UAW locals representing about 27,500 workers so far have vetoed the deal, many overwhelmingly. Only about four locals with a total of 7,000 members favored the pact.

Ford sought the deal to bring its labor costs in line with Detroit rivals Chrysler Group LLC and General Motors Co., both of which won concessions from the union as they headed into bankruptcy protection earlier this year. Under pattern bargaining, the three automakers usually match pay, benefits and other contract provisions.

But workers weren't convinced they should make more concessions, since Ford avoided bankruptcy and is considered healthier than its rivals. At least two Wall Street analysts are predicting that Ford could report a profit Monday when it announces third-quarter earnings.

Rocky Comito, president of UAW Local 862 in Louisville, said Friday that workers felt they were being asked to sacrifice more than the company's executives. Ford CEO Alan Mulally made $17.7 million last year, although that was down 22 percent from the year before.

"Some want to see management give more at the upper level," Comito said.

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Ford was offering workers a $1,000 bonus if they ratified the contract. But the contract also would have frozen entry-level pay, changed some work rules and limited workers' ability to strike.

A message seeking comment was left Saturday for the UAW. UAW President Ron Gettelfinger said Friday that there wouldn't be a revote if the contract changes failed.

"If it fails, there would be no reason to go back to the bargaining table," Gettelfinger said at a community event in Detroit. "We have a democratic process in place. People have a right to express themselves. We recognize there's a lot of misinformation about it out there, but that is what it is."

Factory-level union leaders have known for several days that the deal would be defeated, said one Detroit-area official who asked not to be identified because the voting is not completed.

The union did a poor job of explaining the need to preserve jobs and keep Ford competitive with GM and Chrysler, the official said.

He doesn't believe members will approve any more changes until the 2011 contract, which will leave Ford at a disadvantage and has the potential to knock the company from its position as the strongest financially of the Detroit Three.

"Our goal should be to keep Ford Motor Co. going in the right direction," he said.

Gary Chaison, a professor of labor relations at Clark University in Worcester, Mass., said the vote was a slap to UAW leadership. It's extremely rare for union members to oppose the union's recommended vote.

Chaison said the vote damages the reputation of UAW Vice President Bob King, the chief Ford negotiator, who has been mentioned as a successor to Gettelfinger when the union elects a new president in 2010.

"The sign of a good leader is that you can agree to something and then sell it to the membership," Chaison said.

Chaison said Ford asked for too much too soon after workers already agreed to concessions earlier this year. He also said Ford lacked credibility because its financial situation wasn't as dire as GM's or Chrysler's.

"They made such a strong case about not going to bankruptcy court and turning the corner, so they couldn't go to the workers and say, 'We need this to turn the corner,'" he said.

The no votes came even as Ford reached a similar cost-cutting agreement with the Canadian Auto Workers union Friday. The CAW has agreed to cuts in benefits in exchange for product guarantees, but that agreement must be ratified by Canadian workers.

In addition to the plants in Louisville and Dearborn, workers at factories in Chicago; Claycomo, Mo.; and Livonia, Plymouth, Sterling Heights, Flat Rock, Ypsilanti Township, Mich., rejected the deal. Locals in Wayne, Mich.; Cleveland; Indianapolis and St. Paul, Minn., voted in favor.

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Associated Press Writers Corey Williams in Detroit and Janet Cappiello Blake in Louisville contributed to this report.

DETROIT — Ford Motor Co. workers have overwhelmingly rejected contract changes that would have allowed the automaker to cut labor costs, leaving Ford at a disadvantage to its Detroit rivals as i...
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- enochsmoky I'm a Fan of enochsmoky 12 fans permalink

The UAW needs to go. The automotive industry will never fully recover until the ball and chain known as the UAW is thrown into the trash heap. There are several hundred thousand workers in related businesses who depend on a healthy automotive business and the UAW wants to strangle Ford's recovery in the cradle. There are thousands of car dealerships who will have to hit millions of car buyers that much harder just to have the UAW keep the mantle "king of the blue collar worker." Turning nuts and bolts on an assembly line was not worth $100,000 per year ten years ago and it still isn't. Conditions change and the UAW refuses to change. They deserve every layoff that comes in the next few years.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:10 PM on 11/03/2009

Economic policy needs to change. For the past 30 years only the top 1% of earners have been the major beneficiaries of economic recoveries while everyone else lags. We need policies and programs that will hlpe low and middle income people. More shovel ready projects. Universal health care

good articles; http://financeopinionss.blogspot.com

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:37 PM on 11/02/2009
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"He also said Ford lacked credibility because its financial situation wasn't as dire as GM's or Chrysler's."

That's about the most ignorant and stupid thing I have heard for a while. I guess Ford will need to be on the brink of total collapse before action is taken. My opinion is that Ford is planning for the future because none of this is over and I never expect things to go back to the way they were. About this time last year I took a 10% paycut (as did everyone salary and hourly at my company) so we could stay afloat (I also work in the automotive manufacturing arena). This plus other concessions seemed to have worked. I saw one competitor go down in flames and another file chapter 11. As of this date I have gotten half back of the 10%.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:18 PM on 11/02/2009
- Gover I'm a Fan of Gover 58 fans permalink

But...they made money. If they can be profitable at these labor costs, during some of the lowest demand ever, why would they need to cut costs further?

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:35 PM on 11/02/2009

Even though I agree with the argument that executive pay is too high, that excuse is thrown around by unions way too often. My blog site, www.ProudlyMadeInAmerica.com is neither pro nor con concerning unions, but it is times that this that I have to wonder if some unions are stuck in the 1800's.

Ford is doing well for many reasons. One of which is that more consumers are thinking about where products are manufactured. Another reason is that GM and Chrysler had problems, so consumers went to Ford. Although I hope the "buy America" trend continues, the reality is that if the products are not competitive, in price and function, people will abandon the trend. If Ford can not make competitive products their current surge will be lost

In the end, the UAW gave lip service to Ford on the agreement and then did nothing to get the deal done. Sadly, it shows that the UAW is no better then management that works toward short term goals at the expense of the viability or the company.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:07 AM on 11/02/2009

need to stop the admixure of money & politics. Time 4 the peopel to get the reform they need. heath care, education, a stable well paying job, and housing.

good articles; http://financeopinionss.blogspot.com

Lets hope Obama will succeed

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:03 AM on 11/02/2009
- Elyriaohio I'm a Fan of Elyriaohio 3 fans permalink

Back to "Business as Usual" for Ford's salary & hourly workers.
Short-sighted at best.
The goal is to compete with the Asian market, not just keep working for another year.
No leadership.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:57 AM on 11/02/2009
- RandVictims I'm a Fan of RandVictims 113 fans permalink
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The slavery train lost just a little momentum. I'll take it.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:29 AM on 11/02/2009
- trinity I'm a Fan of trinity 11 fans permalink

Does not surprise me that workers in Indianapolis voted in favor of concessions...that area of Indiana (anything south of the NW region) has been fighting to go "Right to Work" for years. They hate unions. Yet, they don't seem to hate the union bargained wages for some reason (that end up bringing up everyone's wages)...probably explains why there are so many "right to work" Texans working over at the BP Refinary on the border with Chicago.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:11 PM on 11/01/2009
- rad21 I'm a Fan of rad21 22 fans permalink

Higher wages, cadillac healthcare plans, good unemployment benefits, excellent retirement pensions. This applies to management and union.

The competition - the world auto industry through NAFTA, WTO etc etc.

World's new car on the market - "Nano" priced at $2,000:00

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:48 PM on 11/01/2009
- stillbarbi I'm a Fan of stillbarbi 19 fans permalink
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My brother has one of those "Cadillac health care plans." Not long ago he owed $168,000 for his portion of bills from his Cancer and his deceased wife's Diabetes complications!

Part of the problem is the charges billed when a doctor, hospital, or lab knows the patient has one of the good plans. Additional tests, procedures, appointments, and prescriptions are ordered when the provider knows the insurance company will pay.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:06 AM on 11/02/2009

You make no sense.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:39 AM on 11/02/2009

This is very interesting. Who makes the decisions on pay at GM and Chrysler now. Is it the government? If it is, how can the government let a situation continue where GM and Chrysler can put wage pressure on Ford. I guess if Ford seeks a bailout, then the government can dictate terms.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:06 PM on 11/01/2009
- sarabono I'm a Fan of sarabono 18 fans permalink

Pay is overseen by the Treasury Department. There are nor current reports to the public because both GM and Chrysler are under sealed court control overseen by the Government ie: Obama Administration.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:10 PM on 11/01/2009
- sarabono I'm a Fan of sarabono 18 fans permalink

The UAW sure knows how to shoot themselves in the foot, heart and groin, don't they.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:40 PM on 11/01/2009
- cowtippor I'm a Fan of cowtippor 20 fans permalink

that's what happens when employees have too much power. how would you feel if your workers dictated what their pay would be?

being paid a fair and liveable wage is fine and expected out of a responsible company. but sometimes union negotiated wages are rediculous compared to the competition

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:52 AM on 11/02/2009
- bannorhill I'm a Fan of bannorhill 33 fans permalink

Is being paid $31 per hour to do nothing when you are laid off fair? That is what auto workers get.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/elections/2008/11/21/automakers-ask-bailout-paying-workers-sit/

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:50 PM on 11/02/2009
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Its always interesting to me that when ever major companies talk about cutting costs it is never from the top down. Almost without exception when ever a company 'saves' a million by cutting labor costs they pay an extra million to some executive who wrote the pink slips.

If the executives are so interested in having the company survive let them work for the exact same wage as the average worker in that company.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:18 PM on 11/01/2009

I don't think American capitalism works. The shareholders are supposed to set executive compensation, but it is mostly just an insider game of kissy face. The board of directors don't give a hoot about the company or about our nation's welfare. They are bad Americans, or, in Republican parlance, good Americans.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:43 PM on 11/01/2009
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Shareholders only care about the size of their short term gains. To this end they do not care how the execs make the cuts, just that they make them.

And the isn't really any 'American Capitalism', there is capitalism with government controls and there is capitalism without government controls. Currently we are in the latter.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:43 AM on 11/02/2009
- stillbarbi I'm a Fan of stillbarbi 19 fans permalink
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Good point! I'd like to hear companies talk about cutting expenses from the top down.

Check out this information about CEO pay.
http://www.americanprogress.org/kf/ceo_pay_web_final.pdf

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:15 AM on 11/02/2009
- stillbarbi I'm a Fan of stillbarbi 19 fans permalink
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PS: This report is from 2005, and it's gone nowhere but up since then.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:18 AM on 11/02/2009

The typical "conservative" anti-union argument towards pattern-bargaining says it's ridiculous for a less-successful company to pay the same wages as a more successful company. Now it's being practiced, and the anti-union people aren't happy? Intellectual dishonesty rears its ugly head.

Actually, I'm not choosing a side in this argument as a convincing case can be made for either side of the argument. Far more relevant are the unequal trade policies that all US producers are forced to accept. All of the domestic producers have been producing compact cars in the US, at a loss, for decades. Foreign tariffs and value-added taxes have kept them on US soil, while Europeans, Japanese and Korean companies are free to import to the US without any similar taxation. These producers are shipping from markets where the governments have taxed fuel at a level that creates demand for small vehicles. Have you heard this issue addressed in the mainstream media?

BTW, note that all of the Japanese-transplant factories in the US produce the Trucks, SUVs, minivans and sedans larger than Japanese home-market products. The high mileage compacts (with very recent exception of the Honda Civic) are produced in the high-fuel cost markets mentioned above.

There are historic precedents for the pay issue by the way... UAW workers at Chrysler earned less per hour during the company's near collapse in the late 70s/early 80s. When profits returned, so did wage parity.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:16 PM on 11/01/2009
- ejhickey I'm a Fan of ejhickey 11 fans permalink

I hope the Union really sticks to Ford and goes on strike for a long time and forces ford into Bankruptcy. Why? Well I am shorting Ford stock and I bought of lot of GM stock really really cheap after they filed for BK. I think I could make a lot of money if the Union forced Ford to their knees. Come on , UAW - help this greedy investor make a lot of money. I need the cash to buy some homes at the foreclosure sales.

This might even help Honda which is good because I own their stock as well. The more I think about it the more I am in favor of a long nasty strike or big concessions by Ford that would hurt them in the long run. GO UAW!!!

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:54 PM on 11/01/2009
- michmudder I'm a Fan of michmudder 3 fans permalink

Greed? Look in the mirror. You're no friend to Ford workers.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:22 PM on 11/01/2009
- ejhickey I'm a Fan of ejhickey 11 fans permalink

do you have impaired reading skills? when did I claim to to be a friend to Ford workers? I don't care what happens to Ford or their workers. I am just hoping for a long strike that hurts the company and their stock.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:06 PM on 11/01/2009
- sarabono I'm a Fan of sarabono 18 fans permalink

Your GM stock, both common and all series of preferred is worth ZERO. That is stock of the old GM company which is bankrupt with hundreds of millions, maybe as much as 3.8 Billion in debts.

The new GM is 60% owned by the Government and 37% owned by the UAW Health Care Fund. The remaining few percent are senior bonds owned by various entities.

There is no publicly owned stock of the current "Government Motors".

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:06 PM on 11/01/2009
- ejhickey I'm a Fan of ejhickey 11 fans permalink

GM stock still trades on the OTC market

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:20 PM on 11/01/2009
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