Mount Kilimanjaro Snow Cap Is Disappearing

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RANDOLPH E. SCHMID | 11/ 2/09 03:49 PM | AP

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WASHINGTON — The snows of Kilimanjaro may soon be gone. The African mountain's white peak – made famous by writer Ernest Hemingway – is rapidly melting, researchers report.

Some 85 percent of the ice that made up the mountaintop glaciers in 1912 was gone by 2007, researchers led by paleoclimatologist Lonnie Thompson of Ohio State University report in Tuesday's edition of Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences.

And more than a quarter of the ice present in 2000 was gone by 2007.

If current conditions continue "the ice fields atop Kilimanjaro will not endure," the researchers said.

The Kilimanjaro glaciers are both shrinking, as the ice at their edges melts, and thinning, the researchers found.

Similar changes are being reported at Mount Kenya and the Rwenzori Mountains in Africa and at glaciers in South America and the Himalayas.

"The fact that so many glaciers throughout the tropics and subtropics are showing similar responses suggests an underlying common cause," Thompson said in a statement. "The increase of Earth's near surface temperatures, coupled with even greater increases in the mid- to upper-tropical troposphere, as documented in recent decades, would at least partially explain" the observations.

Changes in cloudiness and snowfall may also be involved, though they appear less important, according to the study.

On Kilimanjaro, the researchers said, the northern ice field thinned by 6.2 feet (1.9 meters) and the southern ice field by 16.7 feet (5.1 meters) between 2000 and 2007.

Researchers compared the current area covered by the glaciers with maps of the glaciers based on photographs taken in 1912 and 1953 and satellite images from 1976 and 1989.

The research was funded by the U.S. National Science Foundation and National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration.

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WASHINGTON — The snows of Kilimanjaro may soon be gone. The African mountain's white peak – made famous by writer Ernest Hemingway – is rapidly melting, researchers report. Some 85 ...
WASHINGTON — The snows of Kilimanjaro may soon be gone. The African mountain's white peak – made famous by writer Ernest Hemingway – is rapidly melting, researchers report. Some 85 ...
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- realpolitic I'm a Fan of realpolitic 160 fans permalink

Mountaintop glaciers all over the world are fast disappearing!

"Glaciers supplying water to millions are thawing at record rates and some could disappear altogether in coming decades, a U.N.-funded study found."

"The average rate of thinning and melting of the ice almost tripled in 2006, to 1.4 meters (4.6 feet) from 0.5 meters in 2005, the U.N.-backed World Glacial Monitoring Service reported."

"The thickness of the world's glaciers have been declining for the past quarter-century, with record losses in three of the last six years. The losses imperil water supplies, agriculture, and hydro-electrical power generation."

"Using data based on 30 glaciers from nine mountain regions, the University of Zurich-based research center determined that about 10.5 meters have been lost since 1980."

"The Himalayan glaciers, the main water source for roughly 750 million people in Asia, are among the low-latitude glaciers that could be lost. In northern India, the Ganga, Indus, Brahmaputra and other rivers may soon become seasonal water flows, the report said."

"In the U.S., about 40 percent of the water supply to southern California is likely to be vulnerable within the next two decades as rising temperatures lead to reductions in snow pack in the Sierra Nevada mountains and the Colorado River basin."

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601081&sid=a.SMtX2BKH0I&refer=australia

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:00 PM on 11/05/2009
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Our tax dollars at work:
"The research was funded by the U.S. National Science Foundation and National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration.

Researchers compared the current area covered by the glaciers with maps of the glaciers based on photographs taken in 1912 and 1953 and satellite images from 1976 and 1989.

If current conditions continue 'the ice fields atop Kilimanjaro will not endure,' the researchers said.

'The increase of Earth's near surface temperatures, coupled with even greater increases in the mid- to upper-tropical troposphere, as documented in recent decades, would at least partially explain' the observations."


Apparently, there is another side to the story: http://ilovecarbondioxide.com/2009/11/oh-no-not-this-kilimanjaro-rubbish.html cites two peer reviewed articles making deforestation the culprit.

Also, some interesting history here: http://www.ff.org/centers/csspp/pdf/Kiliman-MAC-4-8-04.pdf

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:02 PM on 11/03/2009
- DocSkull I'm a Fan of DocSkull 31 fans permalink
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I could only find one scientific study linking deforestation and Kilimanjaro. It doesn't say that the ice cap is ONLY melting from deforestation. Local conditions affect the ice caps, but global temperatures are also a factor. That being said, Kilimanjaro is just one place.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:17 AM on 11/04/2009
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You have to google deforestation Kilimanjaro. Four scientific articles cited here: http://www.heartland.org/policybot/results/16905/Junk_Science_Kilimanjaros_Snow_Cap.html

You might even call this the beginning of a consensus on Mt Kilimanjaro: http://www.skepticalscience.com/mount-kilimanjaro-snow.htm

“Around Kilimanjaro, satellite data show a cooling of 0.40º F since 1979 Still, Kilimanjaro’s glaciers continued to shrink.” Patrick Michaels

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:00 PM on 11/04/2009
- shockmagog I'm a Fan of shockmagog 139 fans permalink
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Article on I Love Carbon Dioxide website by the Heartland Institute:

http://ilovecarbondioxide.com/2009_05_03_archive.html

The Heartland Institute created a website in the Spring of 2007, www.globalwarmingheartland.org, which asserts there is no scientific consensus on global warming and features a list of experts and a list of like-minded think tanks, many of whom have received funding from ExxonMobil and other polluters.
http://www.exxonsecrets.org/html/orgfactsheet.php?id=41

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:44 PM on 11/04/2009
- realpolitic I'm a Fan of realpolitic 160 fans permalink

Chic gets his information from a website titled "I love carbon dioxide." Sad!

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:15 PM on 11/04/2009
- SvrWx I'm a Fan of SvrWx 12 fans permalink
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It's called evaportranspiration.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evapotranspiration

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:29 PM on 11/04/2009
- WhoPaidWho I'm a Fan of WhoPaidWho 2 fans permalink

The ice on Kilimanjaro is not melting, it is sublimating. Sort of a crucial difference. The temperature on the summit never goes above freezing. Nice attention to details, AP.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:57 PM on 11/03/2009
- Avidbuff I'm a Fan of Avidbuff 2 fans permalink
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There you go, ruining a perfectly good meme.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:37 PM on 11/03/2009
- anelder I'm a Fan of anelder 18 fans permalink
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Your statement seems at odds with ice core samples that show long ice bubbles (which indicate melting and refreezing) for the first time in core samples going back 4000 plus years.

So sublimating cannot be the only happening up there. With temperatures rising at the base of the mountain at a faster rate than globally, some effect can be assumed on the summit.

Whatever the reason, the north and south ice packs are diminishing. With this the ocean's have to rise. With this there is something to be concerned about. The way I see it we must tackle the situation from all angles until we know for sure which ones are or are not at fault.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:31 PM on 11/03/2009
- DocSkull I'm a Fan of DocSkull 31 fans permalink
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The bottom of the ice melts from the heat caused by the pressure of the ice above and the downhill edges melt from ambient heat. It is common, even among scientists, to lump all the factors which decrease ice mass as "melting."

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:22 AM on 11/04/2009

I'm concerned about the melting glaciers also. Anyone who thinks that we don't have a hand in the rate that they're melting is just stupid. But, isn't this also something that is inevitable? Science says that at one time the whole planet had tropical like temperatures. If it wasn't for a comet colliding with the planet, and causing an ice age, then we wouldn't have glaciers. So maybe the planet is going back to what it is supposed to be. We’re just helping to speed up the process and have to deal with the consequences sooner than expected.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:23 PM on 11/03/2009
- realpolitic I'm a Fan of realpolitic 160 fans permalink

Some 85 percent of the ice that made up the mountaintop glaciers in 1912 was gone by 2007, r"esearchers led by paleoclimatologist Lonnie Thompson of Ohio State University report in Tuesday's edition of Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences."

Very, very sad! So many of the mountain rangers throughout the world are losinf their ice. In Peru, the ice in the Andes mountains is down substantially too. They are worried about a lack of drinking water.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:38 PM on 11/03/2009
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Real, Prof Thompson also partially attributed the shrinking ice to "increases in the mid- to upper-tropical troposphere, as documented in recent decades . . . ." I think the temperatures in the Mt Kilimanjaro area have trended down over the last couple decades. How exactly does the ice disappear?

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:34 PM on 11/03/2009
- realpolitic I'm a Fan of realpolitic 160 fans permalink

I think it is disappearing because of a decline of moisture levels.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:19 PM on 11/04/2009
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Maybe all that melting snow will provide some fresh water for the millions of destitute people living in the mountain's vicinity.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:38 PM on 11/03/2009
- Ivriniel I'm a Fan of Ivriniel 13 fans permalink

Sure...And then what will they do when it's gone?

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:56 PM on 11/03/2009
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Suffer.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:04 AM on 11/04/2009
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LOL

Huf.fPo arent you a little late on this one?

People have been reporting on this since at least 2003

Besides this claim has been debunked over and over and over and over again

See here
http://jisao.washington.edu/print/news/IPP_08-14-08_DeforestationBehindLossofMtkiliSnow.pdf

Huf.fPo join the now...its great

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:35 PM on 11/03/2009
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Uh....that doesn't really debunk anything...
If anything, it reinforces the theory of global climate change caused by humans.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:39 PM on 11/03/2009
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"A scientific theory has linked the loss of snow on Mount Kilimanjaro to deforestation and dismissed suggestions that
the dwindling of glaciers on Africa`s highest peak was due to global warming."

Maybe you will do some reading next time

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:50 PM on 11/03/2009
- mikecal I'm a Fan of mikecal 2 fans permalink

You are so seriously delusional it's difficult to comprehend how you can even waste your time in writing this type of comment. It's you vs. scientists who measure things. Glaciers all over the world are shrinking...

My question to you is: when you see a car coming towards you, do you step out of the way?

If the answer to the above is "Yes" then why not apply that logic to what is going on around us. The scientists and travelers who measure these things are our "eyes"? You want not to believe our "eyes" and consequently we will be run over by the car...

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:14 PM on 11/03/2009
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Science, like medical research, is ever changing. To make a claim at any given point in time, that we know everything there is to know about the Earth, past, present and future, is absurd, preoposterous and frankly, obtuse and arrogant. We are constantly learning new information about the world around us and that will change from year to year.

An example: What if in 1928, after the discovery of antibiotics, medical researchers said, "we've reached the pinnacle in medical science, turn off the lights boys, it's time to go home." What would have been lost in those 80 years?

What we know this year, will differ next.

Do you know why they used a canary in the mines? Because noxious gasses are invisible...they needed to see the danger. Consider the environmental changes, as that visible warning....that canary.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:44 PM on 11/03/2009
- Javani I'm a Fan of Javani 6 fans permalink

What do the Kilimanjaro thermometers indicate?

Nothing much, probably of certain. Why they are not mentioned here. Why risk the future grant payments?

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:35 PM on 11/03/2009
- mairs I'm a Fan of mairs 241 fans permalink
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Huh?

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:38 PM on 11/03/2009
- JScott I'm a Fan of JScott 21 fans permalink

I read it and I've read the comments, and wow some folks are just totally clueless, If the glaciers are melting on Mt. K other places IN THE US also have retreating melting glaciers as well and very well may affect YOUR OWN WATER SUPPLY, namely large areas of the west that use the Colorado River which is already in a drought situation, The Eastern Sierra-LA City gets most of it's water there-they are already strict about wasting water. Calif.s extensive plumbing to move the water around is low because of drought and less snowfall in the Sierras, and as others have noted it related to food supply. Oh yeah they say desal, that's horrendously expensive. Even in the east Georgia is having problems with low flow in the Chatahoochie River. Water comes from somewhere (not bottles at the grocery store) and no one's invented a way to make it from something else and we can conserve and be more efficient, (only will take us so far) and (big elephant-limit human pop. growth) but to just pooh pooh it all shows a lot if stupidity and selfishness.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:31 PM on 11/03/2009
- jordan327 I'm a Fan of jordan327 56 fans permalink

Do we need snow on top of kilimanjaro? Was there snow on it in 1654, 1743, 1245, ?????

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:33 PM on 11/03/2009
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Perhaps not. But do you know how many people NOW rely on the runoff of that snow?

This isn't a historical problem...and it isn't about cycles of climate. This is happening RIGHT NOW and when the glaciers go the rivers will go and then the irrigation will be dry and the farms will die and the people who depend on that food will have to move somewhere. Can the Africans stay on your couch? How about the Indians and the Chinese?

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:38 PM on 11/03/2009
- jordan327 I'm a Fan of jordan327 56 fans permalink

People have adapted for thousands and thousands of years to changing climate. How did the world get by without you people when kracatoa{spelling} blew up. But if it makes you feel better, i got a wheelbarrow you can use to haul snow up there.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:42 PM on 11/03/2009
- shockmagog I'm a Fan of shockmagog 139 fans permalink
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Or this opposite analogy:

Do we need Republicans? I think not.

However, their dwindling numbers are affecting a lot of people.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:39 PM on 11/03/2009
- jordan327 I'm a Fan of jordan327 56 fans permalink

How?, democrats run everything. They have no excuses now.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:43 PM on 11/03/2009
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Almost 4000 comments since September 2009. In other words, a full-time, basement-dwelling, TR0LL. Ignore.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:05 PM on 11/03/2009
- valkyrie607 I'm a Fan of valkyrie607 106 fans permalink
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Do you need coral reefs? Blue whales? Salmon running? Healthy forests? Fossil aquifers? Spring flooding? Wildfires? Your question reveals only ignorance of the natural world, nothing more.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:25 PM on 11/03/2009

Seems an awful lot of Climatologists everywhere. Trip over them. But it would be good to see this warming thing kill off the Taliban's poppy fields. That 'd fix 'em.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:16 PM on 11/03/2009
- shockmagog I'm a Fan of shockmagog 139 fans permalink
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That's a new twist on the Chamber of Commerce/denialists' fall-back position of "Global Warming is actually beneficial."

Congratulations.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:33 PM on 11/03/2009
- phredralf I'm a Fan of phredralf 14 fans permalink
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The age of nature is rapidly melting away as dystopia inches itself into the next leading role.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:16 PM on 11/03/2009
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Here's the reality about polar bears:

Today's polar bears are facing the rapid loss of the sea-ice habitat that they rely on to hunt, breed, and, in some cases, to den. This has resulted in a shorter hunting season for the bears, which has led to a scientifically documented decline in the best-studied population, Western Hudson Bay, and predictions of decline in the second best-studied population, the Southern Beaufort Sea.

The Western Hudson Bay population has dropped by 22% since 1987. The Southern Beaufort Sea bears are showing the same signs of stress the Western Hudson Bay bears did before they crashed.

At the most recent meeting of the IUCN Polar Bear Specialist Group, scientists reported that of the 19 subpopulations of polar bears, eight are declining, three are stable, one is increasing, and seven have insufficient data on which to base a decision.

Some take advantage of the complexity by stating that "polar bears are not in trouble—their numbers have doubled since the 1960s." That's a disingenuous statement, of course. It is true that polar bear populations rebounded after over-hunting was restricted, but that situation has nothing to do with the threat polar bears now face: the loss of the sea ice habitat essential to their survival.

Edited to fit from:

http://www.polarbearsinternational.org/ask-the-experts/population/

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:42 AM on 11/03/2009
- jordan327 I'm a Fan of jordan327 56 fans permalink

So polar bear population doubles, so you have to find a new cause....right??

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:35 PM on 11/03/2009
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Wow...do you try to be this obtuse, or is it natural?

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:39 PM on 11/03/2009
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carbon dioxide accounts for roughly 1/25th of 1% of the air. global warming nuts actually believe 1/25th of 1% is going to kill us all. These people ignore how much CO2 volcanoes give off. Ignore how much plankton in the ocean's give off. The science just isnt there to support it. But it is making Al Gore rich. As Dennis Miller said, beware of the profit seeking phrophet.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:44 PM on 11/03/2009
- garymc8 I'm a Fan of garymc8 50 fans permalink
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Trickle down should be your name the way you pi$$ on everyone and the truth.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:31 PM on 11/03/2009
- realpolitic I'm a Fan of realpolitic 160 fans permalink

If they doubled from two to four, would you celebrate?

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:35 PM on 11/03/2009

I was just to the top in June 2009 and while you can definitely see the glaciers receding it's still amazing and will continue to be amazing without them. I don't think the glaciers or lack there of would affect tourism in or around the mountain. Take a look at http://www.andyonthemountian.com/ my climbing Kilimanjaro blog to see video clips and pictures from my trip and judge for yourself.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:41 AM on 11/03/2009
- KazooDan I'm a Fan of KazooDan 21 fans permalink
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It's not about tourism.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:58 AM on 11/03/2009
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THIS is the real problem with efforts to impact climate change...people like you!

Look, this isn't about tourism...and it isn't really about money. Runoff from Kilimanjaro supplies the Pangani River which is a vital source of irrigation for thousands of farmers, large and small, between the mountain and the Indian Ocean. When the glaciers finish melting there will be no river and then there will be no farms.

But that is not the worst of it...these people won't just die (which might be easier for the rest of us). Rather, they will become a part of the mass migrations due to desertification which are already occurring throughout the world.

AND, this is not an isolated case. The primary issue with glacial loss is going to be felt in the breadbaskets of China and India (and Pakistan). Once the Himalayan glaciers, which feed the Yellow, Yangtze and Lancang rivers in China and the multitude of river systems in India and Pakistan, melt away we are going to have the largest populations on earth fall into a mass migration unlike anything ever seen on the planet.

BUT...WHERE ARE ALL THESE PEOPLE GOING TO GO?!?!?!

If you think I am making this up, if you think that climate change isn't real, just understand that it is already happening...China is importing grain for the first time EVER...and that is not a good sign.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:21 PM on 11/03/2009
- jordan327 I'm a Fan of jordan327 56 fans permalink

Guess what, the earth has continually changed. Why do you think it should stop changing because you feel guilty about something? Life moves on.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:37 PM on 11/03/2009
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I agree with you josh...and you are correct....the mass exodus due to lack of inhabitable land has already begun....and sadly many of the farmers' livestock, entire herds, have died off due to lack of vegetation and water. But what you do not understand...is that you are banging your head against the wall here...people argue against it every time....especially Americans...who consider the "world" only as big as from sea to shining sea. Living in Europe I have found that it is not a debate here...people accept the science. I think people in the states consider where the message came from ie Gore...and stop listening there. However if you take away Gore...the science is still there. Everything in the states comes down to politics. That is why America ranks 29th in the world in science, 33rd in the acceptance of evolution, etc. You get the picture.

And the blasting will start in 3, 2, 1.....

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:02 PM on 11/03/2009

is it all about you?

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:56 PM on 11/03/2009
- realpolitic I'm a Fan of realpolitic 160 fans permalink

That's what I was thinking. It is such a modern reply! "Me! Me! Me!"

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:36 PM on 11/03/2009
- Deli I'm a Fan of Deli 32 fans permalink
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How about no water to drink anywhere in sight? The glacier system is a critical part of the planet's water system that travels the globe, freezes, and melts in time with seasons that have it finally end up where people live.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:13 PM on 11/03/2009
- Klimb I'm a Fan of Klimb 23 fans permalink

Congratulations on climbing Mt. Kilimanjaro. I'll also be climbing in January 2010 on the Marangu
route for 5 days. Going to check out your blog, now.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:54 PM on 11/03/2009
- jsgaetano I'm a Fan of jsgaetano 216 fans permalink
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All the snow may vanish from mountain tops... but conservatives will still believe global warming is a hoax.

God just didn't want that snow there, you see.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:40 AM on 11/03/2009
- jordan327 I'm a Fan of jordan327 56 fans permalink

Is it the first time snow has vanish from mountains?? If not , let it go.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:38 PM on 11/03/2009
- jsgaetano I'm a Fan of jsgaetano 216 fans permalink
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You're the expert... so you tell me.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:58 PM on 11/03/2009
- Publicola I'm a Fan of Publicola 17 fans permalink
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By the same "logic":

Was 9/11 the first time our country was attacked? If not let it go.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:01 PM on 11/03/2009
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