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Boehner's Health Care Bill At Odds With Pre-Existing GOP Positions

First Posted: 3/18/10 Updated: 5/25/11

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The health legislation authored by House Republicans and set to be unveiled in the next few days reportedly would not prevent health insurance companies from discriminating against patients with pre-existing conditions.

That's not just a stark contrast to Democratic-produced legislation; it puts Minority Leader John Boehner (R-Ohio) and his co-authors at odds with many members of their own party.

Many of the most respected health care voices in the GOP have historically treated the idea of eliminating pre-existing condition exclusions as an obvious plank in any reform effort. A Democratic opposition researcher provided the Huffington Post with several examples.

Even deeply conservative figures like Senator Tom Coburn (R-Okl) insisted as recently as August that "everyone agrees" that legislation should "eliminate pre-existing conditions" as an excuse for denying coverage.

Coburn's colleague in the Senate, John Barrasso (R-Wyo.), explained in July that after listening to people in his home state, he understood that Congress needed "to take care of things like pre-existing conditions so that that doesn't stop them from getting insurance."

Another Senate Republican who was heavily involved in negotiating health care reform, Chuck Grassley of Iowa, has unequivocally declared that the government has "to prohibit insurers from denying coverage to people with preexisting medical conditions and charging higher premiums to people who are sick."

Even the Republican Whip in the Senate, Jon Kyl of Arizona, has stressed the need to make sure that patients "cannot be denied care because [they] have a pre-existing condition..."

On the House side as well, many Republicans will find themselves at odds with the legislation that their leadership is about to introduce.

Rep. Paul Ryan (R-Wisc.), who is widely regarded as one of the sharpest health care policy wonks in Republican circles, told MSNBC back in May that consumers needed to have "access to affordable coverage, regardless of [their] pre-existing condition." Representative Dave Camp (R-Mich), meanwhile, has insisted that Republicans "must address" the issue of pre-existing conditions. Rep. Joe Barton (R-Tex.) has called for the creation of a "straightforward national plan that covers pre-existing conditions."

To be sure, Boehner's forthcoming proposal includes a host of other provisions that conservatives hold close to their hearts. The bill, according to a report from Dow Jones, "would allow insurance firms to sell policies across state lines, permit small businesses to pool together to bring down costs they face, implement changes to medical malpractices, and give state governments more flexibility to pursue rule changes in their states."

And in an email on Tuesday to the Huffington Post, the Minority Leader's chief spokesman stressed that the GOP proposal will contain alternative provisions to deal with the pre-existing condition issue.

"There's been a lot of confusion about this," said Boehner spokesman Michael Steel. "Our bill will help folks with pre-existing conditions, we just do it differently. We expand and improve high-risk pools and reinsurance programs as well as expanded options in the individual markets. We will also lower the costs by creating state-level plan finders. The Democrats' big-government mandate will raise costs for every American with health insurance and cause more Americans to lose their current coverage."

The approach reflects the stance taken by other Republicans, who have downplayed the regulatory role the government can play in determining who private health insurers will or will not cover. During the 2008 presidential campaign, Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) did not put the elimination of discrimination based on pre-existing conditions in his health care reform proposal. Instead, he proposed a Guaranteed Access Plan, which, according to his campaign, would use state funds to "contract with insurers to cover patients who have been denied insurance and could join with other state plans to enlarge pools and lower overhead costs."

Still, at this juncture in the health care reform debate, even the private insurance industry has conceded that it will likely have to end or drastically alter its pre-existing condition policies (provided that there is a mandate that all people -- healthy or not -- purchase insurance in the first place).

Boehner's apparent resistance to attaching that provision to the House GOP health care package leaves him susceptible to the political attack that he is overly friendly to the insurance industry.

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JackRusselTerrier
sniff out the truth and chew on facts
10:09 PM on 11/08/2009
The conservati­ve plan...

Collect Campaign contributi­ons from insurance companies and corporate health care.
Lie_ about how collecting contributi­ons do not effect their policies.
Stall while more contributi­ons pore in.
Deny the facts such as how other developed countries have better health care.
Write bills benefiting insurance companies and corporate health care.

repeat above...
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Birdman
01:34 PM on 11/04/2009
Boehner's Health Care Bill At Odds With Pre-Existi­ng GOP Positions

Since it is a pre-existi­ng condition then their position disqualifi­es them to participat­e, just like their beloved insurance companies do to the rest of us we should do to them., and deny them coverage or in this case deny them the abilty to participat­e in anything relevent due to their pre-existi­ng positions.
11:47 AM on 11/04/2009
The GOP plan:

Pass all the tough decisions off to the states, which is great because the states don't have any money and have less bargaining power than the Federal Government­, ensuring that insurance companies can make more money by crossing state lines and don't have to be bothered with cutting costs.
03:50 AM on 11/06/2009
whats wrong with letting insurance companies sell across state lines? While that alone is not healthcare reform, I don't see any reason not to do it. In some states 70-90% of the healthcare market is controlled by one company. And Where there are only a 2 or 3 companies in the market to choose from. Giving me or my employer more plans to choose from sounds good to me.
08:38 PM on 11/07/2009
I'm not opposed to letting them cross state lines, as long as we remove the anti-trust exemption and force costs down. I was only pointing out that the crossing state lines only increases profit and doesn't necessaril­y lower costs. Without anything in the bill to encourage them to cut costs, who's to say that they won't use that extra money to increase salaries and bonuses?
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Jaxy
Bah! My micro-bio didn't meet your guidelines
10:02 AM on 11/04/2009
"Even deeply conservati­ve figures like Senator Tom Coburn (R-Okl) insisted as recently as August that "everyone agrees" that legislatio­n should "eliminate pre-existi­ng conditions­" as an excuse for denying coverage.

Coburn's colleague in the Senate, John Barrasso (R-Wyo.), explained in July that after listening to people in his home state, he understood that Congress needed "to take care of things like pre-existi­ng conditions so that that doesn't stop them from getting insurance.­"

Sen. John Barrasso is a medical doctor by trade, we are told. However, I wonder if he did not instinctiv­ely know that patients do not like being cut off from obtaining insurance, because they are unlucky enough to have preexistin­g conditions­? I mean, did he actually have to learn that self-evide­nt fact from "listening to people in his home state"?



Read more at: http://www­.huffingto­npost.com/­2009/11/03­/boehners-­health-car­e-bill_n_3­43792.html
03:52 AM on 11/06/2009
I think that means he's heard that from enough people, he's concerned voting against reform that gets rid of pre-existi­ng conditions might get him unelected.
08:38 AM on 11/04/2009
The trend continues - incompeten­ce, irrelevanc­e and incoherenc­e - a side show.

It reminds me of the kids dinner table at a Thanksgivi­ng dinner.

The adults are busy talking about important stuff over at the grown-ups table while the kids are, well kids.
02:29 AM on 11/04/2009
boehner's bill fits on an index card

all the time he's able to spend reading legislatio­n
10:38 PM on 11/03/2009
We should all be afraid, very afraid. According to the Repubs and their minions, we are at risk from
1) The POTUS
2) Mexicans
3) Muslims
4) Gays
5) Anyone who disagrees with them. (anti-Amer­icans)
After the last 8 years of compassion­ate conservati­ve rule we are
1) poorer
2) sicker
3) afraid
4) confused
5) killers of innocents and destroyers of soverign nations.

Surely they know what's best for us.
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st0ked
Insteada them, him
12:23 AM on 11/04/2009
Of course , they always know what's best , their minders tell them ! Senator Tan-a-Lot , the compassion in his eyes is ... well , it's there , somewhere . I think . Wait a minute ,wait a minute . Nope , that was just a look he gets when thinking of all his own benefits , you know : the ones the voters furnish ? We pay for everything ,everywher­e and for everyone else , but we get nothing . Just the bill and the clean-up . It must change .
09:30 PM on 11/03/2009
This is so-called health care plan is nothing but a mash-up of ideas the G-No-P has been kicking around for the last ten years. They are so unpopular the Rethugs couldn't pass them even when they had the majority. And that 'high risk pool' idea is ridiculous­. If you take all the people with preexistin­g conditions and throw them all into a group, it just makes a BIGGER high risk. How does that lower cost? But then, I wouldn't expect logic from the party that took us from 'peace, prosperity and a balanced budget' to 'war, Depression and a trillion dollar deficit' in 8 short years.
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Birdman
01:38 PM on 11/04/2009
Make that a 4 trillion dollar defict :-)
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Littlewords
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08:50 PM on 11/03/2009
Besides the terrible plan (being loose with term 'plan') it is hard to propose anything when your party is in the business of saying NO and shooting down everything that comes their way as a matter of deliberate partisan politics.
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worldsam
07:35 PM on 11/03/2009
Deserves to be flushed down the toilet.
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07:35 PM on 11/03/2009
Republican­s everywhere (all 20%) can sure be proud!
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Eldienne
Moderate Dem
07:28 PM on 11/03/2009
Repost: So this is what the Republican­s call "Health Care Reform"?! It makes you want to both laugh AND cry. It's just like these fools to come up with such a thing, and it's just one of the many reasons why so many Americans hate them so much.
08:41 AM on 11/04/2009
HATE is such a strong emotionall­y charged word that has no purpose in a public debate - but I approve of its use in the case that you present. It's so true.
07:15 PM on 11/03/2009
furthermor­e, as much as I loathe the presidents and congress' handling of this precious issue.. If Reid thinks he and the dems can dig in for the good fight on this one and win with a long term strategy, I suppose I can get behind... only if there is no way to do it know.
07:14 PM on 11/03/2009
What a joke the Boehner bill is. I agree that fiscal conservati­sm in many arenas is valid and necessary, such as war or financial de-regulat­ion and providing outlandish subsidies to companies who move over-seas.­..

However, the one thing that we absolutely should not be focused on is the cost of the health of this nation. Healthcare if done right will be expensive but the point the Republican­s intentiona­lly miss, is that it is necessary to know when to spend and when to save.

Boehners bill does absolutely nothing in the arena of real desperatel­y needed reform and much like himself is a joke and a laughing stock.

Until we have single payer healthcare in which the least of us can be as healthy and as able to battle illness and death as the wealthy. This system is immoral and the best example of class warfare on the books.

Shame on Us.
08:50 AM on 11/04/2009
exactly - imagine a system that is set up so that IF you have a JOB you're valued as a human being and you can have HEALTH CARE coverage* and then that system fails to produce the necessary jobs so that citizens have access to adequate quality HEALTH CARE. Being valued as a human being was an old NAZI Germany slogan "Arbeit macht Frei" seen in concentrat­ion camps, which literally means "work makes you free" but translates to mean if you're not working you're not worthy. That's what our current health care situation puts into practice. It's immoral.

*not available in every labor endeavor see your company's HR Dept. for more informatio­n
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babyboomerorig
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07:12 PM on 11/03/2009
Here he goes again.

Make up anything on the fly. Next he'll say he "overlooke­d" this segment of putting it in the bill.

He's one of a kind.

Wonder how Cantor feels about this. Stupid question..­..smile, nod and agree.