Daily Show Beat Meet The Press To The Punch On Jon Krakauer

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First Posted: 11- 3-09 01:11 PM   |   Updated: 11- 3-09 02:57 PM

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Here's an excellent observation from Mediaite's Rachel Sklar, who reminds us that while the "big news to come out of Meet The Press this week has been author Jon Krakauer's assertion that General Stanley McChrystal, commander of the U.S. forces in Afghanistan, was implicated in the cover-up about the death of Pat Tillman," that big news had already been more or less broken by Jon Stewart and The Daily Show:

Krakauer was on [The Daily Show] over a month ago. It's surprising that this one flew under the radar, given how many sharp-eyed journalists, bloggers and media-watchers tune into the Daily Show, and regularly report on the news it makes. But it can and does happen, and happened here. What this says about Krakauer, McChrystal and his book is no different than what was picked up from Meet The Press. But what this says about so-called 'fake' news is, keep your eye on it. People with important things to say make a point of trying to say them on the Daily Show. So don't fall asleep before the interview.

All of that is absolutely right, and it's worth pointing out that Stewart conducted his interview with a greater awareness of where the "news" is in an interview with Jon Krakauer. That meant that Daily Show viewers got an interview that began with the Pat Tillman story and went on for six probing minutes. Meanwhile, at Meet The Press, Krakauer sat on the set like window dressing, and the subject of Pat Tillman wasn't broached until the show's final sequence of questions. Why have him on then?

GREGORY: Jon Krakauer, I want to get to a key element of your book, "Where Men Win Glory," about Pat Tillman and how it relates to this current conversation about Afghanistan. Because it does involve General Stanley McChrystal, who was obviously critical on the stage now and was critical in the Tillman story of well. As a reminder, if you look at pictures of Pat Tillman, the NFL star with the Arizona Cardinals, decides to enlist in the Army, serves in the Rangers after 9/11. This was certainly a big story when he enlisted. And at the time, General McChrystal was actually head of Special Operations command. So Pat Tillman was killed in a friendly fire incident and ultimately won the Silver Star, and that's what you focus on in the book and in a subsequent piece that you wrote for The Daily Beast. And here's what you wrote: "An October 5 Newsweek article [said, about General McChrystal] that `he has great political skills; he couldn't have risen to his current position without them. But he definitely does not see himself as the sort of military man who would compromise his principles to do the politically convenient thing.' In the week after Tillman was killed, however, this is precisely what McChrystal appears to have done when he administered a fraudulent medical" -- excuse me -- "a fraudulent medal recommendation" -- we're talking about the Silver Star -- "and submitted it to the secretary of the Army, thereby concealing the cause of Tillman's death." Briefly explain what happened.


MR. KRAKAUER: The--after Tillman died, the most important thing to know is that within--instantly, within 24 hours certainly, everybody on the ground, everyone intimately involved knew it was friendly fire. There's never any doubt it was friendly fire. McChrystal was told within 24 hours it was friendly fire. Also, immediately they started this paperwork to give Tillman a Silver Star. And the Silver Star ended up being at the center of the cover-up. So McChrystal -- Tillman faced this devastating fire from his own guys, and he tried to protect a young private by exposing himself to this, this fire. That's why he was killed and the private wasn't. Without friendly fire there's no valor, there's no Silver Star. There was no enemy fire, yet McChrystal authored, he closely supervised over a number of days this fraudulent medal recommendation that talked about devastating enemy fire.

GREGORY: And that's the important piece of it. And, and he actually testified earlier this year before the Senate, and this is what he said about it.

(Videotape, June 2, 2009)

LT. GEN. STANLEY MCCHRYSTAL: Now, what happens, in retrospect, is--and I would do this differently if I had the chance again--in retrospect they look contradictory, because we sent a Silver Star that was not well-written. And although I went through the process, I will tell you now I didn't review the citation well enough to capture--or I didn't catch that if you read it you could imply that it was not friendly fire.

GREGORY: Even those who were critical of him and the Army say they don't think he willfully deceived anyone.

MR. KRAKAUER: That's correct. He, he just said now he didn't read this hugely important document about the most famous soldier in the military. He didn't read it carefully enough to notice that it talked about enemy fire instead of friendly fire? That's preposterous. That, that's not believable.

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GREGORY: All right, part of this debate. Thank you all very much.

All part of the debate! But not a part deemed important enough to televise.

Krakauer did get to respond to other matters on Meet The Press and, in one instance uttered a line that was pure Beltway anathema when he suggested that the answer to the War in Afghanistan wasn't an immediate, Kagan-style troop surge:

GREGORY: And, Jon, the fear that you hear among critics of the president, or even if they're not critics, they're just skeptical of the policy, is that he'll ultimately choose a half measure, which they believe would be deadly in the circumstance.


MR. KRAKAUER: I don't, I don't agree with that. I mean, there's a, there's a huge range of options between pulling out and bringing in 40,000 or 85,000 troops. I mean, 40,000 isn't going to be enough to make much of a difference. Most--I think most people would agree to that. There's a whole, there's a whole range, and, and so I think you have to be careful of that black or white, either/or, all or nothing thing.

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Here's an excellent observation from Mediaite's Rachel Sklar, who reminds us that while the "big news to come out of Meet The Press this week has been author Jon Krakauer's assertion that General Stan...
Here's an excellent observation from Mediaite's Rachel Sklar, who reminds us that while the "big news to come out of Meet The Press this week has been author Jon Krakauer's assertion that General Stan...
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What is truth? How to uncover the uncovering of the truth? For most of the time we just stay on certain level of the truth.
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    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:32 PM on 11/04/2009
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What a splendid man Pat Tillman was. Thanks to Jon Krakauer for this book and for pursuing the cover-up of Tillman's death by friendly fire.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:48 PM on 11/04/2009

You think it's an accident the nooz is what it is these days? It's all owned by corporations that use it to push political agendas. Being outrageous is more important than being accurate and fair. Democracy depends on an educated populace. Buy the media, feed the people lies.. Looks like Democracy lost or at least has been bought.. Cable nooz and squawk radio are wastelands..

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:08 PM on 11/04/2009

Journalism is a trade, not a profession. There are no agreed upon standards that they hold each other to, and every time you click on the tube you are reminded of that fact. "Fake News" makes news because the foibles, mendacity, and greed that drives mainstream media is literally a fountain of absurd material.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:39 PM on 11/04/2009
- cobraxus I'm a Fan of cobraxus 18 fans permalink
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the people who killed Pat Tillman know they did it/how it happened and why.sooner or later they're going to brag about it to their drinking buddies back home and the truth will come out.inevitable as fate.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:48 AM on 11/04/2009
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You honestly believe they'd want to "brag" about it? C'mon.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:18 PM on 11/04/2009
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For those that claim that Pat was taken down by a US Govt hit team.

Do you have any idea how many angry anti-war Eat The Apple combat folks there are out there? . A lot. In all wars.

They are just not going to start killing guys because they disagree with a war.

His head was nearly bown away. He had a young pvt right there with him. He was with his normal team not some group of Black Op Strangers just in from Bragg.

And when you are on a small team like that its you and yours against the entire world. Those guys have become your world.

I have been on small teams in combat like the one he was on. The chance that these guys would turn hired gun to kill their own on orders from above would be funny if it were not so off the charts unlikely.

Besides we are talking Rangers here. And not all that experienced Rangers. We are not talking SEALs. We are not talking MARSOC or Delta. We are not talking some Black Bag hit team from Langley.

And many times when the loved one is killed by friendly fire family is told of a death against the enemy. Sometimes even with a Bronze or Silver thrown in. Medals they hand out like candy in some of the services today.

This was not a hit. Its the kind of thing that happens over and over again in combat

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:03 AM on 11/05/2009
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Thank you, ICorpsDoc, for that rational voice of experience. I hope you're writing from back home and are not still deployed.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:42 AM on 11/05/2009
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Tillman- Giving up millions of dollars to defend what he believes in, questioning his faith and his premises on religion. Questioning his government- Sticking to his word in staying in the military for his 3 yr contract - sounds like an American we all wish to be - based on integrity and code of justice.

Also unfortunately American the way his death was used as propaganda to promote a war. I applaude his family and their continued fight for the truth. One has to think about the other soldiers in similar situations who aren't blessed with the surname Tillman and media exposure it guarentees

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:22 AM on 11/04/2009

This is the 100th example where the Daily Show with Jon Stewart does a better job covering the news then the major news outlets.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:49 AM on 11/04/2009
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Allow me to clarify- this is the 100th time the Daily Show with Jon Stewart ON COMEDY CENTRAL (an cable network with comedy as its main focus) completely embarasses, dismisses,­discredits supposed actual/factual investigative news shows (CNN, MSNBC, FAUX) that are by all appearances are completely failing in the job to deliver unbiased informative news.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:09 AM on 11/04/2009
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When I view the Prez lately in the media's videos and then the general in charge of the war in Afghanistan, I am in some ways reminded of Lincoln and genl McClellan. The general disdained the Pres at that time as a hillbilly and felt he didn't know anything about war.. I have a new respect for old Abe and realize that our current Prez has a similar battle of wills coming between his admin and the Pentagon.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:34 AM on 11/04/2009
- cecebo I'm a Fan of cecebo 7 fans permalink

Agreed. This President will surprise all of us.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:47 PM on 11/04/2009
- beckpod1 I'm a Fan of beckpod1 34 fans permalink

Things are really screwed up these days.....FOX is supposed to be real news...but they aren't!
Daily Show is supposed to be comedy news...yet it cuts to the truth behind the news and the news agencies...like FOX!
I like Jon Stewart....and I'm really pissed that you can't get anything but hearsay on FOX!

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:49 AM on 11/04/2009
- gumbo1049 I'm a Fan of gumbo1049 5 fans permalink
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David Gregory does not even come close to Tim and should be replaced by someone like Rachel Maddow , jon Stewart, or Lawrence Odonnell.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:44 AM on 11/04/2009
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Precisely why I make time to watch The Daily Show every evening, and only catch MTP whenever it's convenient.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:14 AM on 11/04/2009
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So NOW we are considering turning over 40,000 more people to a Person, a General, who was part of a cover-up of a Brave young man's DEATH, in a country with a CORRUPT Government with a Leader who tried to steal an ELECTION and DID!

Is that about it?

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:48 AM on 11/04/2009
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The Daily Show beats MTP to a pulp on several levels.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:33 AM on 11/04/2009
- msgirlintn I'm a Fan of msgirlintn 30 fans permalink

I said this on a comment Sunday. I saw the Daily Show interview and read Gregory's interview and trust me, Jon Stewart did a much better job. Why hasn't this been picked up by MSM?

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:00 AM on 11/04/2009
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GoodwithWood Pat Tillman joined the Army to fight the people who attacked us on 9/11. He was not happy about being sent to invaded Iraq instead(Yes he went to Iraq before Afganistan).
He was an outspoken atheist, liberal and patriotic American.
His fellow Christian soldiers and commanders didn’t really like him. It was known that when his tour of duty was over he was going to contact Naom chompsky. He was basically going to criticize how Bush and Co. used us all to invade Iraq.
In other words he was fragged by Christians.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:25 AM on 11/04/2009
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