White House Stimulus Report Counts RAISES As Saved Jobs: AP

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WASHINGTON — The government's latest count of stimulus jobs significantly overstates the effects of the $787 billion program under a popular federal preschool program, raising fresh questions about the process the Obama administration is using to tout the success of its economic recovery plan.

An Associated Press review of the latest stimulus reports – which the White House promised would undergo extensive reviews to ensure accuracy – found that more than two-thirds of 14,506 jobs credited to the recovery act under spending by just one federal office were overstated because they counted pay increases for existing workers as jobs saved.

The inflated job count is at least partly the product of the administration instructing local community agencies that received money to count the raises as jobs saved.

"That's more than ridiculous," said Antonia Ferrier, a spokeswoman for Republican House Minority Leader John Boehner.

Most of the inflated figures were like those cited in the 935 saved jobs reported by the Southwest Georgia Community Action in Moultrie, Ga. The agency, like hundreds of others collecting Head Start money, claimed all its existing employees' jobs were saved because they received a pay raise with the stimulus cash.

Similar claims led to overstating by more than 9,300 the number of jobs saved with more than $323 million in stimulus money distributed by the Health and Human Services' Administration for Children and Families, the AP's review found.

More than 250 other community agencies in the U.S. similarly reported saving jobs when using the money to give pay raises, pay for training and continuing education, extend employee work hours or buy equipment, according to their spending reports.

The Georgia program inflated the numbers even further by claiming the recovery money saved more jobs than the number of people it actually employs. The agency employs 508 people but claimed 935 jobs were saved because of confusion over government reports.

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That type of accounting error was found in an earlier AP review of stimulus jobs, which the Obama administration said was misleading because most of the government's job-counting mistakes were being fixed in the new data.

The AP's new review focused only on the money distributed by the Administration for Children and Families and was not an assessment of the money handled by dozens of other federal programs and other job claims made in the new stimulus report.

The administration acknowledged overcounting in the new numbers for the HHS program. Elizabeth Oxhorn, a spokeswoman for the White House recovery office, said the Obama administration was reviewing the Head Start data "to determine how and if it will be counted."

But officials defended the practice of counting raises as saved jobs.

"If I give you a raise, it is going to save a portion of your job," HHS spokesman Luis Rosero said.

The raises themselves were appropriate since the stimulus law set aside money for Head Start salary increases, but converting that number into jobs saved proved difficult. The Obama administration told Head Start officials to consider a fraction of each employee as a job saved.

Many Head Start programs around the country went further, counting everyone who received a raise as a saved job.

"It's a glitch in the system," said Ben Allen, the research director at the National Head Start Association. "There was some misunderstanding among some in the Head Start community about completing the reporting requirements."

Allen said a cost-of-living adjustment "may not be viewed traditionally as a job saved, but one could interpret it that, by providing COLA, you're retaining staff."

The Bergen County Community Action Program in Hackensack, N.J., noted the nearly $213,000 it received went to cover raises for existing staff only. But it also reported saving 85 jobs.

At Southwest Georgia Community Action Council, director Myrtis Mulkey-Ndawula said she followed the guidelines the Obama administration provided. She said she multiplied the 508 employees by 1.84 – the percentage pay raise they received – and came up with 935 jobs saved.

"I would say it's confusing at best," she said. "But we followed the instructions we were given."

Ed DeSeve, who oversees the stimulus at the White House, said the Head Start numbers "represent a few percent of all jobs reported" and said the problems would probably be balanced out by other errors that underreported jobs.

"We don't expect any corrections to this data to meaningfully impact the total 640,000 direct jobs," DeSeve said.

Last week's stimulus report claimed 640,000 jobs saved or created by the economic recovery plan so far. Those jobs came from 156,614 federal contracts, grants and loans awarded to more than 62,000 recipients, worth a total of $215 billion.

Obama has promised the stimulus would save or create 3.5 million jobs by the end of next year, and the data released Friday represented the first head count toward that goal.

WASHINGTON — The government's latest count of stimulus jobs significantly overstates the effects of the $787 billion program under a popular federal preschool program, raising fresh questions ab...
WASHINGTON — The government's latest count of stimulus jobs significantly overstates the effects of the $787 billion program under a popular federal preschool program, raising fresh questions ab...
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Counting saved jobs is a complex process.

Perhaps I would give this article more credence if it was not AP that put it out.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:09 AM on 11/06/2009

Washington is like a alcoholic....until it reaches rock bottom the same behavior will continue. Once it hits the bottom it will be a rough recovery.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:35 PM on 11/05/2009
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Let's face it who wants to be responsible? Gosh, I love to blame all my problems in life on my three older sisters--it is all their fault!

On a serious note, for how long? For how many generations? To what extent do we the American people continue to offer handouts? Handouts to fellow Americans, and handouts to our global community? For how long can we sustain this. I do not believe it can be done at the current levels for much longer.

Ed Rigsbee
Author, Developing Strategic Alliances
www.edrigsbee.com

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:00 PM on 11/05/2009
- dizmo4 I'm a Fan of dizmo4 44 fans permalink

I'm shocked, shocked that after a few months in 100% effect the stimulus package hasn't solved very problem. I'm equally shocked that Pres. Obama hasn't fixed every single national issue in his 10 months on the job.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:02 PM on 11/05/2009

im shocked to think so are so many lifeless,w­orthless,e­conomicica­lly challenged morons in america....that think tyranny is a good thing

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:32 PM on 11/05/2009
- LeeCalif I'm a Fan of LeeCalif 66 fans permalink

diz-
I am concerned President Obama has filled so many critical posts with former GoldmanSachs employees and the President is weakening financial oversights along with post-Enron legislation.
This includes Geithner, Summers, the new SEC watchdog, etc.

I have no problem being specific. You ?!

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:51 PM on 11/05/2009

Due to Obama's inability to create an effective jobs program the only beneficiaries of this recovery is Wall Street- the same it's been since the 80's. FDP knew how to make work, but Obama doesn;t or chooses not to.

good articles; http://financeopinionss.blogspot.com
because of this he may lose in 2012.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:47 AM on 11/05/2009

where have you been.....this is working just like obama said.....your living in a weird version of france...my friend.......10% unemployment,and tax hikes are the new(good times)......in 5 years you ll see the plan in its entirety

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:34 PM on 11/05/2009
- puc4u2 I'm a Fan of puc4u2 3 fans permalink

11.3% unemployment was Jmmy Carter demise. He's already there. We are at 17% real unemployment numbers, not 9.8%. One and done

http://www.commondreams.org/newswire/2009/10/02-0

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:53 PM on 11/05/2009
- txrunner I'm a Fan of txrunner 5 fans permalink

While hundreds of thousands are losing jobs and losing HOPE, the administration is advertising how many jobs they are saving....­..SERIOUSL­Y?


Obama is just telling us he gave us Syphilis but it could have been AIDS.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:28 AM on 11/05/2009

see above comment

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:35 PM on 11/05/2009
- vippy I'm a Fan of vippy 65 fans permalink

What bothers me is that this administration is continuinig with the lies and manipulation of figures!
For the past 8.5 years we have had to declare "new jobs created" to the Texas Authorities when an employee quit their job. Replacing an employee was never a new job created but we did as we were told.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:11 AM on 11/05/2009
- UNLVGOP I'm a Fan of UNLVGOP 5 fans permalink

Does anyone else hear the crickets?

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:11 AM on 11/05/2009
- UNLVGOP I'm a Fan of UNLVGOP 5 fans permalink

The lack of comments on this board is shocking......and I wonder why this story is shoved into a not so obvious spot on the website....lol

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:54 AM on 11/05/2009
- puc4u2 I'm a Fan of puc4u2 3 fans permalink

The libs are running into their caves. They can't stand the lies from their savior.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:56 PM on 11/05/2009
- batmancw I'm a Fan of batmancw 19 fans permalink

I wonder if getting a new stapler counts? Saved Jobs = Fuzzy Math

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:39 PM on 11/04/2009
- Jmz4gtu I'm a Fan of Jmz4gtu 5 fans permalink

"She said she multiplied the 508 employees by 1.84 – the percentage pay raise they received – and came up with 935 jobs saved."
-Somethings wrong there. Either the reporter meant to say "-the fold increase in pay they received-", or the woman in question doesn't understand what a percent is. If its the former, then they bumped up pay to these people a lot, and I see it counting as a new job in the same way that people take a wage or hours reduction counts as losing jobs. If it's the latter, then she was supposed to report 9.35 jobs saved, and you can't really blame the administration for such gross incompetence. You blame Georgia.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:02 PM on 11/04/2009
- KDog76A I'm a Fan of KDog76A 18 fans permalink
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"you can't really blame the administration for such gross incompetence"

what???? they are in the process of giving away over $700 billion and you can't blame them???

what are you going to say when they pass the healthcare nightmare bill and it costs 3 trillion instead of $1.2 trillion? you can't blame the administration for such gross incompetence???

Obama is in charge the Democrats are running the legislature, they sure as heck better know how all of OUR money is being spent and reporting it accurately.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:14 PM on 11/04/2009

Getting away from the fact that the Obama administration is in the process of doling out the money, do you honestly believe they are not telling the people reporting the figures to find as many positive points as they possibly can?

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:02 AM on 11/05/2009
- GTRich2004 I'm a Fan of GTRich2004 2 fans permalink

"If I give you a raise, it is going to save a portion of your job," HHS spokesman Luis Rosero said.
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"Allen said a cost-of-living adjustment "may not be viewed traditionally as a job saved, but one could interpret it that, by providing COLA, you're retaining staff."

These have to be mis-quotes, because they have to be two of the dumbest things I have ever heard.

If a person leaves your company because they didn't get a COLA, that's not a lost job. The person voluntarily left and you are going to backfill them.

By using their logic, the jobs lost number should be higher because of all the people that took pay cuts this past year.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:05 PM on 11/04/2009
- KDog76A I'm a Fan of KDog76A 18 fans permalink
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"Allen said a cost-of-living adjustment "may not be viewed traditionally as a job saved, but one could interpret it that, by providing COLA, you're retaining staff."

one more thing is that we are in a period of deflation... meaning the cost of living has actually gone down in 2009.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:15 PM on 11/04/2009
- isolow I'm a Fan of isolow 9 fans permalink
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...and don't not forget to count those that moved to a new cubicle, or a new office, or a new floor within the building, or a new building, or those that left and came back from lunch...

well it is "change" - change in accounting and suspension of reality - good times america... good times...

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:10 PM on 11/04/2009
- puc4u2 I'm a Fan of puc4u2 3 fans permalink

Don't forget the individuals that clocked out for lunch, took an extra hour because their kids were sick and they had to pick them up from school.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:59 PM on 11/05/2009

A friend asked me if things were really hopeless and I said yes. There will be no meaningful change or reform and things will continued suck1ng they way they have since Reagan.

good articles; http://financeopinionss.blogspot.com

And that was that.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:04 PM on 11/04/2009
- KDog76A I'm a Fan of KDog76A 18 fans permalink
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India just but 200 metric tons of gold ($6.7 billion). They are planning on dropping the dollar because they say the US economy has collapsed... yes things are really hopeless

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:29 PM on 11/04/2009

This is not good. It will be used as a right wing talking point. But it is obvious to me that Obama designed this stimulus to pour in the most money before the 2010 elections.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:01 PM on 11/04/2009
- KDog76A I'm a Fan of KDog76A 18 fans permalink
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This is not good. It will be used as a right wing talking point.

your right, this is not good, but its not because it will be iused as a rightwing talking point... the government is screwing the people because they lacked the forsight and leadership to dole out this cash appropriately. Remember that when they passed this bill it was because the country "Ugently" needed it... yet you say its designed to be given away ahead of the 2010 elections... what a gross misconduct on the part of this country's leadership... Im not talking so much about Obama as I am about Congress and the people in charge of tossing this money around.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:18 PM on 11/04/2009
- Pquilson I'm a Fan of Pquilson 9 fans permalink

if you are correct, and i suspect that you are. The stimulus had nothing to do with turning the economy around, but instead, all about politics, and getting people elected or re-elected. I am not surprised. I am saddened, but not surprised. these politicians care not one whit about you or me, only about their retention of their elected office. They are buying our votes with our money. Same as always.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:24 PM on 11/04/2009
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