Edward Ates, Man Who Used The "Fat Defense" In Murder Trial, Is Convicted In New Jersey

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DAVID PORTER | 11/ 6/09 08:23 PM | AP

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HACKENSACK, N.J. — A jury convicted a Florida man Friday of murdering his former son-in-law, rejecting the man's defense that he was too fat to have run up and down a flight of stairs to commit the crime and make a quick getaway.

Edward Ates looked down and shook his head in court as he was found guilty of murder and weapons counts for killing Paul Duncsak, who was shot six times at his home in Ramsey, about 25 miles northwest of New York.

Ates' "too fat to kill" defense provided an angle to the trial that attracted attention from the news media but didn't sway the jury of eight women and four men, who reached a verdict on their second day of deliberations after a six-week trial.

Some of Duncsak's family members cried softly after the verdict was read. Ate's wife, Dottie, sobbed in the gallery as he was handcuffed and led away by court deputies.

"It doesn't bring him back, but at least he won't get away with it," said Duncsak's sister-in-law, Barbara Duncsak. "It's satisfying. It was a long time coming."

Ates had argued he didn't have the energy to accurately shoot Duncsak from a perch on the staircase at Duncsak's home in August 2006. He was 62 years old, 5-feet-8 and 285 pounds at the time of the murder.

Assistant Bergen County Prosecutor Wayne Mello termed Ates' defense "nonsense" and credited dogged work by investigators, particularly Det. Sgt. Russ Christiana, that built a circumstantial case around cell phone records and computer forensics.

"This was a complicated case, and it was good old-fashioned police work combined with new technology," Mello said.

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Prosecutors contended Ates drove from Florida to New Jersey, climbed a staircase and shot the 40-year-old Duncsak, a pharmaceutical executive who was embroiled in a bitter custody dispute with Ates' daughter after their divorce.

Ates then drove 21 hours to his mother's house in Louisiana, prosecutors said. The last evidence the jurors reviewed in court on Friday was videotaped testimony from Ates' sister in which she admitted that she lied to authorities about when he arrived in Louisiana, per his request.

Brenda Ates has already pleaded guilty to hindering prosecution and is not expected to get prison time when she is sentenced, Bergen County Prosecutor John Molinelli said Friday. Molinelli is proceeding with hindering charges against Ates' wife and mother.

Prosecutors presented evidence at trial to show Ates bought books detailing how to build a gun silencer, did Internet searches on how to pick locks and how to commit the perfect murder.

Ates, meanwhile, testified at the trial that he often needed to take breaks while driving, implying that he wasn't capable of making the drive to Louisiana.

In addition, Ates' doctor testified that bounding up the stairs, as the killer was thought to have done, would have caused Ates to become short of breath and shake, making it difficult to keep his wrist straight enough to accurately fire a gun at someone from a distance.

Duncsak's mother, Sophia, has said Ates became vengeful toward her son after Paul Duncsak refused to give Ates money to keep Ates' struggling golf course in Okeechobee, Fla., afloat.

State Superior Court Judge Harry G. Carroll set sentencing for Dec. 17 and revoked Ates' bail.

HACKENSACK, N.J. — A jury convicted a Florida man Friday of murdering his former son-in-law, rejecting the man's defense that he was too fat to have run up and down a flight of stairs to commit ...
HACKENSACK, N.J. — A jury convicted a Florida man Friday of murdering his former son-in-law, rejecting the man's defense that he was too fat to have run up and down a flight of stairs to commit ...
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Now if Mr. Ates was on trial for chasing down and eating his son in law, the fat defense might have been more believable....

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:38 PM on 11/07/2009
- jws2346 I'm a Fan of jws2346 31 fans permalink

See, even if you're chubby, you ain't suppose to go around whacking people. Hey, do they have to change that expression"only the strong survive" to "only skinny people get to be murderers"?

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:34 PM on 11/07/2009
- Atmus I'm a Fan of Atmus 6 fans permalink

A child now with out a father nor grand-father.

Still a-shame.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:32 AM on 11/07/2009
- Randomizer I'm a Fan of Randomizer 2 fans permalink
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"It was the right thing to do." Wilford Brimley, lookalike

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:33 AM on 11/07/2009
- Eykis I'm a Fan of Eykis 245 fans permalink

Take a good look:

Edward Ates and Roger Ailes and TWINS.

No doubt about it.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:44 AM on 11/07/2009

You people are all so funny but you seem to be forgetting that another human being is dead at the hands of the defendant. Nobody's death should be a joking matter. How do you think the victim's family feels seeing all your lighthearted comments about a situation that has probably devastated them?? Try for a little decorum, people, please!!

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:51 AM on 11/07/2009
- Atmus I'm a Fan of Atmus 6 fans permalink

They aren't forgetting Rosanne.

On the internet, people don't care. At least in America.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:31 AM on 11/07/2009
- nexxtep54 I'm a Fan of nexxtep54 37 fans permalink

It's highly doubtful that the victims family are even looking at this site on the heels of the trial. ( oh , the trials over, I better see what people who comment at Huff-po think ! ) Would you be ? And if so, that's not being devastated, that's cold.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:51 PM on 11/07/2009
- czs5056 I'm a Fan of czs5056 5 fans permalink

I know I shouldn't be so lighthearted but I just don't have any emotions and I don't have a heart.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:51 PM on 11/09/2009
- czs5056 I'm a Fan of czs5056 5 fans permalink

he should have used the Chewbacca defense

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:35 AM on 11/07/2009
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"It doesn't make sense." Hahahahaha !

Maybe in his case the Chewbacon defense would have been more appropriate ;)

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:04 AM on 11/07/2009

He ATES everything up!..HAHAHAHA

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:35 AM on 11/07/2009
- soundping I'm a Fan of soundping 13 fans permalink
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TESTING !

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:59 AM on 11/07/2009

The doctor who testified on his behalf should also go to prison.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:25 AM on 11/07/2009
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That's a great idea! Anyone who testifies for the defense should go to prison, should the defendant get convicted! That should encourage people to stop defending guilty people

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:59 PM on 11/07/2009
- duxguts I'm a Fan of duxguts 22 fans permalink
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One could say the evidence weighed heavily against him.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:01 AM on 11/07/2009
- AmandaBC I'm a Fan of AmandaBC 554 fans permalink
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Should have used the twinky defence... That one did work.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:58 PM on 11/06/2009
- uneeda I'm a Fan of uneeda 4 fans permalink

sleepwalking is ok too

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:23 AM on 11/07/2009
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Good point!

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:59 AM on 11/07/2009

No, the Twinky defense did NOT work.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:56 AM on 11/07/2009
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Neither did the TV intoxication defense or just about any other hair-brained schemes that shysters try to foist on juries.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:24 AM on 11/07/2009
- jajenkins I'm a Fan of jajenkins 5 fans permalink

Yes it did.

Instead of being convicted for murder (or at the very least unlawful act manslaughter) Brown was convicted of involuntary manslaughter. That means it worked.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:35 AM on 11/07/2009
- pfc1369 I'm a Fan of pfc1369 86 fans permalink
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It certainly did work.

Dan White served only 5 years in prison for the premeditated murders of Mayor George Moscone and Supervisor Harvey Milk in San Francisco's City Hall in 1978

A couple years after his release, White killed himself.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:25 PM on 11/07/2009
- pfc1369 I'm a Fan of pfc1369 86 fans permalink
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That defense, "diminished capacity," in the Dan White case diminished because of eating Twinkies, is no longer allowed in California.

Don't know about Florida.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:09 AM on 11/07/2009
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On appeal--the bald defense!

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:13 AM on 11/07/2009
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lard have mercy!

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:24 PM on 11/06/2009
- Eykis I'm a Fan of Eykis 245 fans permalink

noble, roflmfao, hilarious. Faved.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:54 AM on 11/07/2009
- belyeu I'm a Fan of belyeu 12 fans permalink
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now will he go on a diet?

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:19 PM on 11/06/2009
- billbb I'm a Fan of billbb 47 fans permalink

Yeah, for 20 to life.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:25 AM on 11/07/2009
- sviolette I'm a Fan of sviolette 72 fans permalink
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He won't have a choice.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:29 AM on 11/07/2009

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