Abas Hussein Abdirahman: Somali Adulterer Stoned To Death, Pregnant Girlfriend Spared "Until She Gives Birth"
BBC NEWS :
Abas Hussein Abdirahman, 33, was killed in front of a crowd of some 300 people in the port town of Merka.
BBC NEWS :
Abas Hussein Abdirahman, 33, was killed in front of a crowd of some 300 people in the port town of Merka.
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The fact that the male was the first to be executed is remarkable in and of itself, an ironic sort of progress. Considering that women have always been the first, and often only ones, to be persecuted for these crimes, whether in the Islamic world or the so-called modern Western world. So, while the punish is extreme, it is, in a sense, fair.
"so called modern Western world"? Could you tell me where anything comparable to this happens in the "modern western world"?
The point, which you missed, is that this punishment treats the man and woman equally. The severity of the punishment is another matter altogether.
"Considering that women have always been the first, and often only ones"
Under sharia law, both parties are punished...
In theory, of course, however, we know in practice this is often not the case. Even you could admit as much. Typically, the ethnic culture's attitudes towards the roles of men and women, male chauvinism, trump the religious prescriptions.
Islam is a religion, just like Scientology or Christianity or The People's Temple. It IS open to rational, objective scrutiny, parody or criticism, JUST LIKE ANY OTHER. Time to drop the PC and take a look.
It's their law; however, they might want to investigate if the woman wasn't in fact raped. If so, then they are punishing the victim. I suppose they are humane enough to spare her unborn child.
"they might want to investigate if the woman wasn't in fact raped. If so, then they are punishing the victim."
Spot on.
all you "x"'s are apologists for a radical, barbaric, backward, regressive, violent, vengeful, cowardly, belligerent, narrow-minded, fundamentalist group of "people" bent on imposing their evil ways on the rest of the world...
shame on you!
Adultery is AGAINST the law in that country...I am sure those two KNEW this and what punishment awaited them if they were caught committing this CRIME.
As they say, if you do the crime, you must do the time......or something like that.
P.S There is nothing in Sharia law about stoning rape victims...I am sure if the people who carried out the stoning knew that the little girl was raped and yet they still went ahead with the punishment, will meet the wrath of Allah in the afterlife.
And slavery was once acceptable in some states. So it wasn't wrong then?
I don't see why you would see the need to compare the two. they are completely different things.
In the United States, once sentencing is delivered, there is no hope for the convicted. They will be punished, stigmatized, and ruined. I have no idea of how sharia works or if it's sentencing is more reversible. I've heard this is the case, and that, in Africa (as opposed to the Middle East), typically the offender, once released, can go on to live his/her life with a "clean slate."
It would seem once you are stoned to death it's not "reversible". Just my opinion.
Fact: In other parts of Africa there are people being exiled from their homes and sometimes burned alive after being "exposed" by Cristian witch finders.
Fact: There is video of Sarah Palin praying with one of these African witch finders and having her campaign for governor being blessed by him.
Conclusion: Anti-Islamist Christians should not be so smug and self righteous.
religion of peace?
ask the 1,500,000 christian armenians murdered by islamic turkey...
that's the 20th century...
not the 11th century crusades or the 17th century salem witch hunts that you christian haters, islam apologists and usa haters love to refer to...
Plz religion had very little to do with killing millions of people.
Stalin and Hitler were both atheists and both were probably the two biggest killers of innocent people during the 20th century...
But since we are talking about people killed by members of a particular faith, how about all the millions killed in Vietnam, Iraq and Afghanistan who died in wars started by Americans? What about the countless Palestinians that Israel murders on a regular basis? or the over a million Afghans killed by the Russians while the rest of the world looked on?
Hitler was not an atheist. Whatever personal feelings he had, his armies were definitely tied to religious dogma.
Obviously following the literal teachings of the Bible, the Torah or the Quran are ridiculous. Apparently these "holy" books were written by puritanical sadistic mortals and not by some mysterious "benevolent" supreme being.
Religion and its fanatical followers have brought us war after war going back before the Crusades, they have burned people at the stake for experimenting with science and we here in America have hung people in Salem, MA for being "Witches", stoning people is simply an extension of the barbaric behavior of religious fanatics who interpret their "holy" book literally. What fools we mortals be.
When one stops to think that these murdering wretches are part of humanity, it sickens beyond belief. Earth is a stop to be avoided or approached with great care by visitors from other worlds. A savage brutal world that preys on its own and subjects itself to delusionary medical beliefs and superstitions that spawn the utmost in savagery.
It's odd how the media and officials were bending over backwards to avoid naming the Religion Of Peace in the recent tragic shooting in Texas....I wonder why?
"Ladies and gentlemen, I regret to say that our flight to Buenos Aires today is being diverted to Mogadishu due to weather. Please have your passports ready for Somali Passport Control and be prepared to state the purpose of your trip."
If only.
What about the places in the Bible where it says people are supposed to be stoned to death. Christians will say "Oh, we don't do that anymore" but fundamentalist christians believe you have to follow the Bible exactly as it is written. That every word is the word of God. If fundamentalist christians lived somewhere where there wern't laws against it you would find stonings to death still being done by christians.
The fact is that those Christian fundamentalists don't control the machinery of government here.
This isn't about religion or even culture, this is about not having a government and poverty.
Conservatives in this country act like government is so horrible. If Somalia actually had a central government these things could be stopped. Blacks were lynched in the south by God-fearing, white Americans up until 50 years ago for absolutely no reason other than being black. Often the entire white community would come out and witness these events, and even have picnics. Black men, women (pregnant or not), and children were killed this way. It wasn't until the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT stepped in to stop this vile practice. I am sure that if our government ceased to exist there is a certain segment of the population that would LOVE to do this again.
Talk about barbarism all you want. That doesn't change the fact that the only thing preventing the states from doing this or worse is the presence of a federal government which you conservatives hate.
You couldn't have said it any better.
As a Somali, I can tell you those buffoons that stoned the man to death don't represent Somalis. In fact, most Somalis hate them. The group that carried out the act are called "al-Shabab," which means "the Youth" in Arabic. And that's what they are, a bunch of ultra-conservative, brainwashed kids with AK47 that lookalike they belong to the movie Children of the Corn.
What if they had a central government that supported Sharia Law?
Its possible. A lot of Muslim-majority countries are governed by Sharia law. Malaysia is one of them & you don’t see them stoning people to death for adultery. You know why? In Sharia law, adultery is the hardest conviction you can carry out. You need 3 witnesses who can testify they actually saw penetration. Not “they were on top of each other" or got caught "kissing," but they actually have to see penetration.
Couldn't we send in a division or two to rescue the pregnant girlfriend?
First Posted: 11- 7-09 09:56 AM | Updated: 11- 7-09 10:20 AM