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The Huffington Post   |  Ryan Grim, Sam Stein, Lila Shapiro, & Nico Pitney
First Posted: 11- 7-09 09:44 AM   |   Updated: 11- 8-09 02:52 AM

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After months of debate, the House of Representatives passed historic health care reform legislation late on Saturday evening. Read the overview AP coverage HERE, and follow Twitter reaction HERE.

In a victory for President Barack Obama, the Democratic-controlled House narrowly passed landmark health care legislation Saturday night to expand coverage to tens of millions who lack it and place tough new restrictions on the insurance industry. Republican opposition was nearly unanimous.

The 220-215 vote (click here to see how each member voted) cleared the way for the Senate to begin a long-delayed debate on the issue that has come to overshadow all others in Congress.

A triumphant Speaker Nancy Pelosi likened the legislation to the passage of Social Security in 1935 and Medicare 30 years later. "Oh, what a night!" she proclaimed at the beginning of a press conference held after the vote. Obama issued a statement saying, "I look forward to signing it into law by the end of the year."

"It provides coverage for 96 percent of Americans. It offers everyone, regardless of health or income, the peace of mind that comes from knowing they will have access to affordable health care when they need it," said Rep. John Dingell, the 83-year-old Michigan lawmaker who has introduced national health insurance in every Congress since succeeding his father in 1955.

In the run-up to a final vote, conservatives from the two political parties joined forces to impose tough new restrictions on abortion coverage in insurance policies to be sold to many individuals and small groups. They prevailed on a roll call of 240-194.

Ironically, that only solidified support for the legislation, clearing the way for conservative Democrats to vote for it.

The legislation would require most Americans to carry insurance and provide federal subsidies to those who otherwise could not afford it. Large companies would have to offer coverage to their employees. Both consumers and companies would be slapped with penalties if they defied the government's mandates.

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Insurance industry practices such as denying coverage on the basis of pre-existing medical conditions would be banned, and insurers would no longer be able to charge higher premiums on the basis of gender or medical history. In a further slap, the industry would lose its exemption from federal antitrust restrictions on price fixing and market allocation.

At its core, the measure would create a federally regulated marketplace where consumers could shop for coverage. In the bill's most controversial provision, the government would sell insurance, although the Congressional Budget Office forecasts that premiums for it would be more expensive than for policies sold by private firms.

A cheer went up from the Democratic side of the House when the bill gained 218 votes, a majority. Moments later, Democrats counted down the final seconds of the voting period in unison, and let loose an even louder roar when Pelosi grabbed the gavel and declared, "the bill is passed."

The bill drew the votes of 219 Democrats and Rep. Joseph Cao, a first-term Republican who holds an overwhelmingly Democratic seat in New Orleans. Opposed were 176 Republicans and 39 Democrats.

WATCH: THE FINAL VOTE


WATCH: THE POST-VOTE PRESS CONFERENCE


From the Senate, Majority Leader Harry Reid of Nevada issued a statement saying, "We realize the strong will for reform that exists, and we are energized that we stand closer than ever to reforming our broken health insurance system."

In his written statement, Obama praised the House's action and said, "now the United State Senate must follow suit and pass its version of the legislation. I am absolutely confident it will."

Nearly unanimous in their opposition, minority Republicans cataloged their objections across hours of debate on the 1,990-page, $1.2 trillion legislation.

United in opposition, minority Republicans cataloged their objections across hours of debate on the 1,990-page, $1.2 trillion legislation.

"We are going to have a complete government takeover of our health care system faster than you can say, `this is making me sick,'" jabbed Rep. Candice Miller, R-Mich., adding that Democrats were intent on passing "a jobs-killing, tax-hiking, deficit-exploding" bill.

But with little doubt about the outcome, the rhetoric lacked the fire of last summer's town hall meetings, when some critics accused Democrats of plotting "death panels" to hasten the demise of senior citizens.

The bill is projected to expand coverage to 36 million uninsured, resulting in 96 percent of the nation's eligible population having insurance.

To pay for the expansion of coverage, the bill cuts Medicare's projected spending by more than $400 billion over a decade. It also imposes a tax surcharge of 5.4 percent on income over $500,000 in the case of individuals and $1 million for families.

The bill was estimated to reduce federal deficits by about $104 billion over a decade, although it lacked two of the key cost-cutting provisions under consideration in the Senate, and its longer-term impact on government red ink was far from clear.

Democrats lined up a range of outside groups behind their legislation, none more important than the AARP, whose support promises political cover against the cuts to Medicare in next year's congressional elections.

The nation's drug companies generally support health care overhaul. And while the powerful insurance industry opposed the legislation, it did so quietly, and the result was that Republicans could not count on the type of advertising campaign that might have peeled away skittish Democrats in swing districts.

Over all, the bill envisioned the most sweeping set of changes to the health care system in more than a generation, and Democrats said it marked the culmination of a campaign that Harry Truman began when he sat in the White House 60 years ago.

Debate on the House floor had already begun when Obama strode into a closed-door meeting of the Democratic rank and file across the street from the Capitol to make a final personal appeal to them to pass his top domestic priority.

Later, in an appearance at the White House, he said he had told lawmakers, "to rise to this moment. Answer the call of history, and vote yes for health insurance reform for America."

It appeared that a compromise brokered Friday night on the volatile issue of abortion had finally secured the votes needed to pass the legislation.

As drafted, the measure denied the use of federal subsidies to purchase abortion coverage in policies sold by private insurers in the new insurance exchange, except in cases of incest, rape or when the life of the mother was in danger.

But abortion foes won far stronger restrictions that would rule out abortion coverage except in those three categories in any government-sold plan. It would also ban abortion coverage in any private plan purchased by consumers receiving federal subsidies.

Disappointed Democratic abortion rights supporters grumbled about the turn of events, but pulled back quickly from any thought of opposing the health care bill in protest.

One, Rep. Jan Schakowsky, D-Ill., detailed numerous other benefits for women in the bill, including free medical preventive services and better prescription drug coverage under Medicare. "Women need health care reform," she concluded in remarks on the House floor.

A Republican alternative was rejected on a near party line vote of 258-176.

It relied heavily on loosening regulations on private insurers to reduce costs for those who currently have insurance, in some cases by as much as 10 percent. But congressional budget analysts said the plan would make no dent in the ranks of the uninsured, an assessment that highlighted the difference in priorities between the two political parties.

After months of debate, the House of Representatives passed historic health care reform legislation late on Saturday evening. Read the overview AP coverage HERE, and follow Twitter reaction HERE. In ...
After months of debate, the House of Representatives passed historic health care reform legislation late on Saturday evening. Read the overview AP coverage HERE, and follow Twitter reaction HERE. In ...
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- Luke3 I'm a Fan of Luke3 8 fans permalink

The dean of Harvard Medical School, Dr. Jeffrey Flier, has said the health care proposal pushed by obama, reid and pelosi gets "a failing grade" in his opinion. Here is his article:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704431804574539581994054014.html?mod=rss_Today%27s_Most_Popular

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:11 PM on 11/19/2009
- Artemis34 I'm a Fan of Artemis34 132 fans permalink
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"The Republican National Committee's health insurance plan covers elective abortions for its employees, an option Republicans strongly oppose in health overhaul legislation that Democrats are trying to push through Congress."

Read more: http://www.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,1939286,00.html?xid=rss-politics-huffpo#ixzz0WtnSFMXd

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:26 PM on 11/14/2009

"I Didn't Read the Bill!" Confesses Louise Slaughter, Powerful House Democrat
At post-victory celebration, a committee chair's revealing slip-of-the-tongue.
by Glenn M. Heller
Sunday, November 8, 2009, 3:22 A.M.
(Reported here as witnessed first-person by the author just hours ago.)
To uproarious laughter and gleeful applause, Congresswoman Louise M. Slaughter, D-NY, powerful chairwoman of the House Rules Committee, candidly admitted to a packed, post-victory, closed-door gathering of fellow Democrats that, in fact, she had not actually read H.R. 3962, the 1990-page health care bill her party managed to pass tonight in a close vote in the U.S. House of Representatives.
SEE:
http://berkshireeagle.blogspot.com/2009/11/louise-slaughter-powerful-house.html

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:16 PM on 11/11/2009

Those who are ready to commit suicide don’t need health insurance. The people who have the philosophy that they don’t have joy over long life, and don’t have sorrow over short life don’t need health insurance.
(henryguo2­21@yeah.ne­t)

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:52 AM on 11/11/2009
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The latest Rasmussen poll, I can hear the groans already, showed that the health care reform bill passed along ideological lines. So-called liberals in liberal congressional districts voted for it and so-called conservatives in conservative congressional districts voted against it. The vote was 220 to 215. There are approximately 693,000 people in each district, not likely or registered voters, just people. Just for rounding purposes, call that 3.5 million people. 10% of the population isn’t what I would call “ kinda popular”.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:08 AM on 11/11/2009
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During an exclusive interview with ABC News’ Jake Tapper today, President Obama said that penalties are appropriate for people who try to “free ride” the health care system but stopped short of endorsing the t.h.r.e.a.t of jail time for those who refuse to pay a fine for not having insurance.

“What I think is appropriate is that in the same way that everybody has to get auto insurance and if you don't, you're subject to some penalty, that in this situation, if you have the ability to buy insurance, it's affordable and you choose not to do so, forcing you and me and everybody else to subsidize you, you know, there's a thousand dollar hidden tax that families all across America are -- are burdened by because of the fact that people don't have health insurance, you know, there's nothing wrong with a penalty.”

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:04 PM on 11/10/2009
- MYSTERIOUS I'm a Fan of MYSTERIOUS 27 fans permalink
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Republicans want this. I hope President Obama brings everybody home. it is time to take care of America. If this nation can find money for THAT, how come they are unable to come to grips with national heathcare?

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:42 AM on 11/10/2009
- PNG I'm a Fan of PNG 51 fans permalink
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This will not happen. lobbyists will see to that.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:13 PM on 11/10/2009

Insurance lobbiests created it. It reinforces our current health care system, inflates the price more and forces us all to participate in it.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:59 PM on 11/10/2009
- john donne I'm a Fan of john donne 6 fans permalink
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CHENEY 2012; he will know how to end this madness.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:24 PM on 11/09/2009
- macday I'm a Fan of macday 12 fans permalink
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cHENEY BELONGS IN JAIL

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:04 PM on 11/09/2009
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Socialists belong in jail for this egregious bill and total disregard for the Constitution.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:55 AM on 11/10/2009
- john donne I'm a Fan of john donne 6 fans permalink
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Yeah, jail for cool people.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:22 AM on 11/11/2009
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Yeah, by starting WWIII in the Middle East...

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:09 PM on 11/10/2009
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Cheney/Voldemort 2012

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:53 PM on 11/10/2009
- john donne I'm a Fan of john donne 6 fans permalink
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But it would be worth it even with a weak VP candidate on the ticket.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:23 AM on 11/11/2009

SINGLE PAYER NOW... SHUT DOWN INSURANCE COMPANIES

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:25 PM on 11/09/2009

The Democrats with the overt support of the Obama Admin. have removed any chance of SINGLE PAYER. In fact this bill they just passed CUTS up to $400 BILLION from Medicare Medicaid.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:00 PM on 11/09/2009
- PNG I'm a Fan of PNG 51 fans permalink
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Show link, please. One that just states this fact without the hyperbola.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:20 PM on 11/10/2009
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I wonder what happened to health coverage as good as congress gets? There is a reason the insurance companies where not screaming its because everyone will have to buy from them at a cost of 5 thousand single pay and 15 thousand for family thats yearly. If you don't buy it then you could be fined up to 250 thousand dollars plus sentenced to five years in jail. The good news is they have health care in prison at least until they privatize that system too. Congress just passed another law to help big insurance companies, and we lose again! http://dailycensored.com/2009/11/08/democrats-pass-health-care-bill-in-the-middle-of-the-night/

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:46 AM on 11/09/2009
- a270 I'm a Fan of a270 12 fans permalink

we have lost our country. Everyday, more people arrive in the country who favor big government and something for nothing. I think we have to enable states to break free of the federal system in order to establish a better form of government where freedom is the focus.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:43 AM on 11/09/2009
- swellsoire I'm a Fan of swellsoire 11 fans permalink

Who are these "people"? Are they brown people? Who is this this "we" of whom you speak? Are they white people? All of the immigrants whom I have ever met are very hardworking individuals.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:12 AM on 11/09/2009
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Hello itsafreakingame, Welcome to an adult conversation. First and most importantly, please refrain from quoting non-legit sources for your "proof" that "BIG" government wants to put you jail for refusing health care. The conservatives use such tactics, because they work (obviously)

Please do yourself and favor and read this a Pulitzer prize winning website that will straighten you out a bit: http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2009/sep/29/patients-first/conservative-group-says-youll-be-imprisoned-not-ha/ And here's a quote "

Thank your for your post, but try to get some real facts next time and don't listen to everything you here from Fox News, Beck, etc, etc

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:45 AM on 11/10/2009
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I rely on more then one source for my news. Do you have proof that yours is any more legit then the one I posted? Do you rely on it because it claims to be honest? I do believe in health care for all with no strings I believe that we deserve the same care our government representatives receive. This bill will not give the majority a choice and yes it does punish if you refuse to buy. Why Matthew do you think that the insurance companies are staying silent? The insurance companies win with this bill it increases their consumer base. Maybe you should stop relying on only one or two sites please try to educate yourself. Here is something I think you should check out maybe it will help open your eyeshttp://link.brightcove.com/services/player/bcpid10043465001?bctid=14897424001

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:01 AM on 11/10/2009

I lost interest when you referenced a "Pulitzer prize winning website"... we all know what a sham that "prize" has become.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:24 AM on 11/10/2009
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I just want to know if the leisure class, that exclusive world, the elites will still be able to get their flu shots ahead of the most vulnerable?

Of course that will happen. What am I saying?

This could set an ugly precedent. If we get some form of health care reform, what will law makers want to reform next? Don't all the corporate lobbyists see what is happening here? If you don't throw in for health care, what industry will be next... the financial sector, the energy industry... not defense contractors? Will there be no abusive industry left out in the end? This is war I tell you, W A R!

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:52 AM on 11/09/2009
- nogimmicks I'm a Fan of nogimmicks 28 fans permalink

There is nothing to be excited about, as the Kucinich NO vote proves. Both Republican boycott and the Dem bill are equally supported by the insurance companies that remain in power in both cases. Just like it has happened with the Wallstreet bailout and "reform".

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:04 AM on 11/09/2009
- a270 I'm a Fan of a270 12 fans permalink

Right. The alliance of big government and big business. It is called "fascism". Brought to you by your local democrat party.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:44 AM on 11/09/2009
- swellsoire I'm a Fan of swellsoire 11 fans permalink

You do see how your statement is nothing more than hyperbole? Big government and big business walked hand in hand during the administrations of Eisenhower, Nixon, H. Bush Reagan, and W. Bush. Eisenhower tried to warn us about the dominance of the military industrial complex. Our military spending dwarfs that spent on social programs.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:52 AM on 11/09/2009
- Byron1436 I'm a Fan of Byron1436 12 fans permalink

Actually, Fascism (economically) isn't the 'alliance' of Big Biz and Government, its the ownership of Business by Government. Your argument could really only apply to companies like GM where the Government has taken an active role in its steerage as a company due to its massive impact on the blue collar economy in the USA.
Swellsoire is right, however. The 'alliance' you seem to be referring to between corporate America and the federal Government has been happening for decades and due to the crisis we are beginning to see how inexorably tied together those two entities are. In many ways, this 'alliance' is why the debate on Health Care reform has been filled with such misinforma­tion--corp­orate America has PROFITS on the line if the bill passes, and nobody wants to see their massive salaries reduced even 10%.
Want to know what economic fascism is to progressives? In the 1960s the average CEO made about 40 times the average worker in his company. In the 2000's an average CEO makes 400 times what the average worker in his company makes. We are not an oligarchy, or at least we shouldn't be. If you're going to be mad about something and use the word 'fascism' lightly, at least direct your anger where it should be focused.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:27 PM on 11/09/2009
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Using words you don't understand, adds zilch to the debate. Please refrain. Thank you.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:47 AM on 11/10/2009
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Both parties...

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:05 PM on 11/10/2009
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The difference between those who follow Christ and those who follow Satan becomes VERY apparent when viewing these posts.
ANTI-REFORMISTS offer only hell and damnation remarks on how BAD it is to help Americans in need: it’s “socialist” government “take over” of health care; it’s going to bankrupt the country; it’s giving something for nothing. MEANWHILE, they have NOTHING bad to say about the trillion-plus dollars spent on senseless wars and their destruction of life and property. These folks are okay spending their tax dollars on killing and physical destruction, but oppose spending it on HELPING other Americans.
PRO-REFORMISTS want to save American lives and make health care available to those who NEED it: cannot afford it, cannot get it due to pre-existing conditions, or whose coverage is dropped due to illness.
Republicans, their blue-dog coohorts and followers don’t care about people: as long as their money pays for killing and destruction, they are fine with their taxes paying for it. But, if their money goes to save American lives, they want no part of it.
Different independent researchers have placed AMERICAN DEATHS at between 44,000 and 101,000 lives EVERY YEAR due to no insurance or lack of adequate insurance. People with heart believe this is WRONG and something must be done.
I think it’s obvious who is following Christ… and who isn’t.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:53 PM on 11/08/2009
- a270 I'm a Fan of a270 12 fans permalink

Implicit in what you write is a faith in the goodness of government. I have zero trust in the people who work and profit in government. Much better in my view to allow people to opt out of the nanny state. Disallow the mandates and restrictions that government imposes on commercial transactions like the buying and selling of health care and insurance.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:19 AM on 11/09/2009

All the people in government? Or just certain ones? Which ones exactly do you not have faith in?

What does faith have to do with it? Do you think private enterprise would establish a defense system, build public roads and transportation, and provide health care to everyone who needs it?

Humankind has already tried having no government. We have evolved.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:55 PM on 11/09/2009
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Our work is NOT done.

We MUST continue to contact members of the Senate to pass a good bill.

We MUST keep the presure on to make sure that any more foolish_ amendments like the Stooopak amendment do not get merged with the final bill.

The battle_ is NOT over. Continue to make your voices heard.

To the SINGLE PAYER advocates (I am one too); TAKE HEART. Although this is not the bill we would have wanted, we MUST push_ to make this the best bill we can before the final vote!

Please use this link. http://www.visi.com/juan/congress/index.html (contact congress and the senate)

JRT

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:41 PM on 11/08/2009
- a270 I'm a Fan of a270 12 fans permalink

You are taking away people's freedom by restricting the types and terms of the health insurance they are allowed to purchase. Does that not give you pause?

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:21 AM on 11/09/2009
- PNG I'm a Fan of PNG 51 fans permalink
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The constriction you speak of exists, but is misdirected: It is American Corporations who look to 'own' us lock, stock, and barrel. the government has become merely their 'errand boy'.

You should learn about lobbyism and how that functions.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:10 PM on 11/10/2009
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healthcare FOR ALL......men

How splendid reproductive CHOICE for wealthy women only. They always had safe legal abortions, because they could travel to where abortions were legal, or pay for nice upscale doctors to perform illeagal abortions.

Again it will be poor and young women who will die in back alleys.

64 Democrats who supported Stupak amendment....you are in Washington for only ONE MORE year.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:18 PM on 11/08/2009

I'm a big abortion supporter. The fewer unwanted children I have to support, the better.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:48 AM on 11/10/2009
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