Cavern Threatens To Swallow Carlsbad, New Mexico

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First Posted: 11- 8-09 01:16 PM   |   Updated: 11- 8-09 02:17 PM

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The bright yellow signs on U.S. 285 are the first indication that things aren't right in Carlsbad.
"US 285 south subject to sinkhole 1,000 feet ahead," motorists are warned.

But there is little other evidence that in southeastern New Mexico's oil country, a giant cavern sits beneath the earth, ready to swallow part of the highway and possibly a church, several businesses and a trailer park.

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The bright yellow signs on U.S. 285 are the first indication that things aren't right in Carlsbad. "US 285 south subject to sinkhole 1,000 feet ahead," motorists are warned. But there is little other...
The bright yellow signs on U.S. 285 are the first indication that things aren't right in Carlsbad. "US 285 south subject to sinkhole 1,000 feet ahead," motorists are warned. But there is little other...
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- research I'm a Fan of research 256 fans permalink

"The cavern was formed over three decades as oil field service companies pumped fresh water into a salt layer more than 400 feet below the surface and extracted several million barrels of brine to help with drilling."

Looks like the resource extraction companies spoiling the commons again.....

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:33 PM on 11/09/2009
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i don't see anyone commenting on what I thought was the critical issue:

the trucking company was pumping water into the ground, and causing its instability. if something happens, aren't they liable? i wouldn't let them leave town without having their insurance information.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:45 PM on 11/09/2009
- CR46 I'm a Fan of CR46 222 fans permalink

Sounds like it might fall into the "Gods will" catagory.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:06 PM on 11/09/2009
- MJinCanada I'm a Fan of MJinCanada 104 fans permalink

Hardly. Anyone who passed Geology 101 would know what happens when you do water injection oil recovery in limestone bedrock.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:40 PM on 11/09/2009
- CR46 I'm a Fan of CR46 222 fans permalink

And most people reading articles in the green section can catch sarcasm :)

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:53 PM on 11/09/2009

No common sense..this is Karst (cave) country....just because you don't know there is a cavern underneath you doesn't mean it's not there.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:42 AM on 11/09/2009
- Mikeeee I'm a Fan of Mikeeee 65 fans permalink

"The cavern was formed over three decades as oil field service companies pumped "FRESH" water into a salt layer more than 400 feet below the surface and extracted several million barrels of brine to help with drilling."

Anybody else notice the irony here? Fresh water in a desert, makes sense to me to pump it into the ground.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:17 PM on 11/08/2009

Water is the prime mover of oil. Almost any oil that flows on its on either connects to the ocean floor somewhere, and water pressure if 'floating' it up, or brine is being injected into the oil baring formation. I worked on many injection wells in Southern California. The fresh water they used to make the brine was actually more pure than the tap water in LA.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:16 AM on 11/09/2009
- MJinCanada I'm a Fan of MJinCanada 104 fans permalink

Love your screen name. Going Postal is one of my favourites.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:35 PM on 11/09/2009
- MJinCanada I'm a Fan of MJinCanada 104 fans permalink

It's called a brine well because they started out with fresh water but they've been recovering and re-using it as it grows saltier (alkaline) with dissolved minerals. Which is why there's a cavern: limestone and other carbonate rocks dissolve. They have to filter the brine to some degree because if it's too alkaline, it will corrode or gunk up the equipment.

As Moist points out, the injection of water forces small pockets of oil and/or heavier crude toward the oil well borehole so it can be pumped out. The technique has been used for years; however it is another case of ignoring potential damage just to get the oil.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:34 PM on 11/09/2009

End of times?

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:19 PM on 11/08/2009
- Mexitli I'm a Fan of Mexitli 10 fans permalink
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It's prolly just another prank by Balloon Boy's dad.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:54 PM on 11/08/2009

There's an underground nuclear waste facility in the caverns of Carlsbad. I wouldn't go anywhere near that place.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:42 PM on 11/08/2009
- AmandaBC I'm a Fan of AmandaBC 567 fans permalink
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Oh, that's why the bats glow in the dark!! :)

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:48 PM on 11/08/2009
- 18wheeler I'm a Fan of 18wheeler 3 fans permalink
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No, dude. The WIPP is on 62-180, east of Carlsbad, and the caverns are southwest of town, on your way to Texas.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:42 PM on 11/08/2009

The nuclear waste is buried IN the caverns-as I recall, the salt-lined caves are supposed to act as a natural barrier, although I am sure other precautions have been taken ;) But the Carlsbad caverns are huge and like other cave complexes, extend over a very large area.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:19 AM on 11/09/2009
- myoungholt I'm a Fan of myoungholt 21 fans permalink

Drill, baby, drill!!!

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:53 PM on 11/08/2009
- up420oz I'm a Fan of up420oz 23 fans permalink
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You posted the answer to this question:

What was heard coming from Bristol Palins bedroom 9 months before Tripp was born?

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:39 PM on 11/08/2009
- KIVPossum I'm a Fan of KIVPossum 49 fans permalink
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ROFLMAO

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:01 AM on 11/09/2009
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that was truly awesome

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:02 PM on 11/09/2009
- AmandaBC I'm a Fan of AmandaBC 567 fans permalink
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I guess it's extra room for Carlsbad's famous bats... :)

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:33 PM on 11/08/2009
- foneric I'm a Fan of foneric 4 fans permalink

Maybe we should see if there is anything we can do to help it swallow the whole state.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:30 PM on 11/08/2009
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What?????????

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:22 PM on 11/08/2009
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I agree. New Mexico is a great state with beautiful people, wonderful outdoor activities, cultural events, museums, unrivaled natural scenery, and terrific food!

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:52 PM on 11/08/2009
- pbley68 I'm a Fan of pbley68 6 fans permalink
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Its great to see big business as usual caring about local communities.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:27 PM on 11/08/2009
- mabinog I'm a Fan of mabinog 38 fans permalink
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"But there is little other evidence that in southeastern New Mexico's oil country, a giant cavern sits beneath the earth, ready to swallow part of the highway and possibly a church, several businesses and a trailer park."

Well other than the Carlsbad Caverns National Park outside the city, a big hint that there might be caverns in the region.........

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:44 PM on 11/08/2009
- ifitwereme I'm a Fan of ifitwereme 5 fans permalink
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welcome to new mexico - the sinkhole state!

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:09 PM on 11/08/2009
- 18wheeler I'm a Fan of 18wheeler 3 fans permalink
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No kidding. If every brine well has the potential to form a sinkhole, we are f#cked in Lea and Eddy counties...

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:29 PM on 11/08/2009
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You got the state's motto wrong. It should be...

Welcome to New Mexico - The Land of Mañana.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:48 PM on 11/08/2009
- kkrimmer I'm a Fan of kkrimmer 9 fans permalink
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Oil and Bush?

Greenspan: Oil the Prime Motive for Iraq War
America's elder statesman of finance, Alan Greenspan, has shaken the White House by declaring that the prime motive for the war in Iraq was oil.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,296938,00.html

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:28 PM on 11/08/2009
- MJinCanada I'm a Fan of MJinCanada 104 fans permalink

Wow. As my mother-in-law would say, "Queen Anne's dead, you know."
(Which is Surrey English for "Hello, Captain Obvious."

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:37 PM on 11/09/2009
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