Melody Barnes, Obama Adviser, Offers Sympathy For Gay Marriage

digg Share this on Facebook Huffpost - Melody Barnes, Obama Adviser, Offers Sympathy For Gay Marriage stumble reddit del.ico.us RSS


First Posted: 11- 9-09 06:50 PM   |   Updated: 11-13-09 03:49 PM

What's Your Reaction?

UPDATE: ABC News has posted video (below) of White House domestic policy adviser Melody Barnes acknowledging disagreement with President Obama on the issue of gay marriage, comments first reported by the Huffington Post on Monday.

Barnes was asked, "What I would like to know is whether or not you support equal civil marriage rights for gay and lesbian Americans, and if so, are you speaking or will you speak with President Obama on this civil rights matter?"

A transcript of her response is at The Advocate. She said in part:

"One, I appreciate, I really appreciate your frustration and your disappointment with the president's position on this issue. He has taken a position, and at the same time, he has also articulated the number of ways that he wants to try and move the ball forward for gay, lesbian and transgendered Americans ... I accept that that is very different than what you are talking about. And what you're talking about is something that is quite fundamental.


"With regard to my own views, those are my own views. And I come to my experience based on what I've learned, based on the relationships that I've had with friends and their relationships that I respect, the children that they are raising, and that is something that I support. But at the same time, when I walk into the White House, though I work to put all arguments in front of the president, as you say, I also work for the president...

Read the whole response here.

* * * * *

ORIGINAL STORY (posted 11/9/09)

Following a speech at Boston College's School of Law, President Obama's senior domestic policy aide implicitly acknowledged that she differed with Obama on the issue of gay marriage, multiple sources say.

Melody Barnes, who oversees the president's Domestic Policy Council, told a gathering of students that she sympathized with a questioner who expressed support for marriage equality, attendees said.

Story continues below
advertisement

Paul Sousa, a co-founder of the GLBT rights organization Equal Rep, and the individual who asked Barnes the question, described the scene this way:

I ended with this, "I know there isn't much you can say right now because it's your job to defend President Obama even if he is wrong on a domestic policy stance. What I would like to know is - whether or not you support equal civil marriage rights for gay and lesbian Americans and if so, are you speaking or will you speak with President Obama on this civil rights matter?"


For her response, Ms. Barnes did state that she supports marriage equality and can appreciate the frustration that our community is feeling. She [said she] is trying to move the ball forward with other action items (DOMA, DADT, ENDA).

Britt Mosman, a J.D. Candidate at the law school who was also at the event, recalled a slightly less definitive Barnes. Mosman told the Huffington Post that while "Barnes did express her own personal sympathy with the questioner's position in favor of same sex marriage," she also acknowledged "that she not only advises the President, but she also works for him." A third source with knowledge of the event confirmed Mosman's account.

Reached late Monday evening, a White House official who spoke on condition of anonymity said that Barnes was not discussing "her personal views on marriage equality or other issues."

"As she clearly stated at the event, her personal views on issues are irrelevant to her work of advancing the administration's agenda," the official added. "In response to the questioner, she did provide an overview of what the president is doing to help advance equal rights for LBGT Americans."

A video of the exchange, Mosman said, is expected to be posted soon.

If Mosman and Sousa's accounts are correct, Barnes becomes perhaps the highest-ranking White House official to signal support for same-sex marriage. The president, both during the campaign and since taking office, has expressed support for civil unions, but insisted that his religious beliefs prevent him from backing full-fledged marriage equality for gay couples.

That stance and others have created friction between the administration and the gay community. On Monday, a prominent political site that closely follows gay rights issues, AmericaBlog, called for a "donor boycott" of the Democratic National Committee and other Obama campaign groups. "Candidate Obama promised during the campaign to be the gay community's 'fierce advocate,'" the site states. "He and the Democratic party have not kept their promise."

As part of his questioning of Barnes, Sousa hinted that there could be political ramifications for the White House if common ground proved elusive.

"I ended the discussion by urging Ms. Barnes and the White House to revisit the issue before the 2012 election," he writes, "because a sea change is occurring in the political landscape beneath us and I'm not sure our community will support Pres. Obama then if he doesn't support marriage equality especially if there's a bunch more states that have legalized it."

UPDATE: The piece was updated slightly from its original version.

FURTHER UPDATE: Kent Greenfield, a law professor at Boston College who was in the room, said that from his vantage point, Barnes "was pretty artful" in not offering her personal views.

The Obama adviser, Greenfield recalled, "expressed sympathy in hearing [Sousa's] question and she did say that her views differed somewhat from the president... Though I don't think she said the word 'differed.'"

"But she was not being very substantive in her response with her views," he added. "I kept expecting her to say more and be more explicit with her views... It was the kind of statement where people got the impression that they wanted to get from it."

UPDATE: ABC News has posted video (below) of White House domestic policy adviser Melody Barnes acknowledging disagreement with President Obama on the issue of gay marriage, comments first reported by ...
UPDATE: ABC News has posted video (below) of White House domestic policy adviser Melody Barnes acknowledging disagreement with President Obama on the issue of gay marriage, comments first reported by ...
Report Corrections
 
Comments
1481
Pending Comments
0
iPhone App Promo
Post Comment

Want to reply to a comment? Hint: Click "Reply" at the bottom of the comment; after being approved your comment will appear directly underneath the comment you replied to

View Comments:
Page: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 Next › Last » (13 pages total)
- leonel I'm a Fan of leonel 5 fans permalink

Why don't we ask Melody, did she intend to get off the reservation? Does this little event help or hurt Obama or gays overall?

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:38 PM on 11/16/2009
- leonel I'm a Fan of leonel 5 fans permalink

LEGISLATING MORALITY is what making marriage more than what it has always been. It needs to be done when a majority support it. While being for it, one can see that gays want to gain respectability that the public is not yet mature enough to grant. Obama did not need to promise to promote it in order to get elected and it is now haunting him. This is politics. What is new is that Americans are getting overly disgruntled and ansy these days, on both the left and right. We all know what is going on.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:33 PM on 11/16/2009

I honestly believe that if gays get their way in this country with same sex marriage, etc overall....this country will be on it's way towards decline... the likes of which we've never seen. There will be no upside.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:25 PM on 11/15/2009
- MikeHTown I'm a Fan of MikeHTown 6 fans permalink
photo

you have a right to your beliefs, but I honestly believe this country will be on its way to decline if we stop rooting out injustice and oppression. Love is a divine commandment.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:15 PM on 11/15/2009
photo

Why do you believe such nonsense? This is a democracy, not a theocracy.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:02 AM on 11/16/2009
photo

The gay comunity would do so much better if their spokespeople acted more likable. Sadly, a lot of gay men come across like DIVA'S.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:58 PM on 11/14/2009
photo

I want to Key West places like Salt Lake City

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:23 PM on 11/14/2009
photo

You say you're not a homophobe, but you continue to spew this nonsense. Do you know most gay people? No. Stop generalizing, and act like a rational adult.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:55 PM on 11/14/2009
photo

Liberal Angel,

I am not a hompphobe. I did not say ALL gay men act like DIVAS. I said the one's that I know, and the one's that I see on TV do. Nothing will draw you all less sympathy than guys acting like DIVAS.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:19 PM on 11/15/2009
- MikeHTown I'm a Fan of MikeHTown 6 fans permalink
photo

Billobasher, a very nicely provokative comment. I would argue its someone else who enjoys the attention around here, and he claims to not be gay...

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:40 AM on 11/15/2009
photo

He is quite prolific with his want of attention...sounds like a diva to me

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:24 AM on 11/15/2009
photo

Ask Matthew Shepherd's mother if Obama cares about gays. See if President Mitt Romney, or President Jim De Mint does anything for ya.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:48 PM on 11/14/2009
photo

We're not getting any further with Obama, so we really wouldn't notice the difference.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:56 PM on 11/14/2009
photo

Gays do not help themselves by the way their spokes people act. They sound like spoiled children. Obama NEVER promised you anything.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:42 PM on 11/14/2009
photo

He promised to repeal DADT and DOMA. He vowed to be a "fierce advocate" for our cause. He absolutely did promise us things, and no matter how much you lie about that fact, it doesn't change that we have the right to be pissed about being lied to.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:58 PM on 11/14/2009
photo

Liberal Angel,

Does not a president have four years to keep his promises? Obama said he will sign a bill that repeals DOMA. You need to get after Congress. Don't Ask Don't Tell" is much more involved than just signing an executive order at this point and you know it.

Ask Matthews Shepherd's mother if she thinks Obama cares about gays.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:17 PM on 11/15/2009

Why is this even a story?

OF COURSE, the Obama Administration would have a number of people working for it that support marriage equality. Yes, that is not the stated view of the President. It's OK that she disagrees with the President on this issue.

Melody Barnes is nowhere near as high level person in the Administration as Jocelyn Elders was in the Clinton Administration. Ms. Barnes has a POV, she disagrees with the President on this, so what? The President is not a God and even he says that he may be on the wrong side of history with the same-sex marriage issue.

The problem here is the complete bungling of this very minor issue by the White House. This WH's continues to completely bungle the PR handling of gay issues, why is that. In this case, it was and is unnecessary.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:33 PM on 11/14/2009
photo

One thing that has always amazed me about these really macho guys who claim to hate homsexuality is that many of them LOVE lesbian pornography. These guys all want to belive that all hit chicks are lesbians.

While I do not agree with how the gay community is going after Obama, I really can't stand the gay haters.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:56 PM on 11/14/2009

So, can we say you're a hater too?

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:59 PM on 11/14/2009

A hater hating a hater. LOL

You have to love it.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:59 PM on 11/14/2009
photo

I am not a hater. I just totally disagree with the tactics that the gay rights people use. You do not help yourselevs.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:27 PM on 11/14/2009
- rain33 I'm a Fan of rain33 22 fans permalink
photo

i agree with melody barnes. she used to work for ted kennedy too.her domestic policies are more progressive but i wished that she shook some sense in president obama because he's too much as a compromiser instead being a leader! wake up president obama and get more progressive as a man!

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:45 PM on 11/14/2009

What is a progressive in your view? An anything goes and should move along attitude?

Just curious.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:51 PM on 11/14/2009
photo

Accepting that not all people are the same is not "anything goes".

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:43 PM on 11/14/2009

Moving legislation toward recognizing the equal protection clause is progressive. Pulling out of the relgions dive the nation is in and reasserting seperation of church and state is progressive. Heck, even showing that you are sincere about following up on your electing promises and platform would be progressive.

As Arianna Huffington said, we need President Obama to act more like candidate Obama.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:16 PM on 11/14/2009

Honestly I don't understand same sex attraction. I've tried to imagine myself sexually attracted to a man, and I just can't see it. That said, same sex attraction has been around since the dawn of man, and what two consenting adults want to do together is absolutely their right, and none of my business. So I'm cool with same sex marriage. Heterosexuals, homosexuals, penguins, I don't care who gets married, as long as it's not me. I don't see it as morally weakening the culture. Frankly, what the health insurance companies and Wall Street get away with is far more immoral, and damaging to the fabric of America.

Given the all 31 states that have voted on this issue so far have voted against it, the concept is obviously a tough sell to a majority of Americans given our puritanical values. Heterosexual marriage is all that many people have ever known. Even I had to have a good think about it, and I don't think decent people who have trouble with the concept are evil. Even in a secular, sexually liberal nation like Australia (where I'm a permanent resident), where pornography, and prostitution are legal, same sex marriage is not legal, and a subject of continuing public debate.

Just like the right to interracial marriage was won in the courts, that's probably what it's going to take for same sex marriage to become legal in America.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:20 PM on 11/14/2009
- Gidster I'm a Fan of Gidster 215 fans permalink
photo

Remember that in the 70s several states voted to actually abolish ALL civil rights for gays.

Stripping their property rights, jobs, businesses......All in God's name.

I am sure most homosexuals are equally puzzled at our opposite sex attraction......

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:46 PM on 11/14/2009
- tomterif I'm a Fan of tomterif 5 fans permalink

Can you briefly specify an example of a state that enacted such a law, in the 1970s, Gidster.

I was alive, and an adult, in the 1970s, and I don't recall such laws, and frankly, with the way you describe it ["Stripping their property rights, jobs, businesses"], it "doesn't sound plausible to me, so I'm wondering if, in regards to whatever it is you're thinking of, perhaps "you're not at all describing it correctly".

You seem to be suggesting that, in these states you referred to, that voted for these things, the laws were such that, if it was discovered that persons were homosexual, they would, or could, thereby be legally denied rights they ordinarily were already guaranteed as HUMAN BEINGS, and, again, that doesn't sound plausible to me, so I'm wondering if you could name one such state that voted for such a thing, and what the "general" name of such a law might be, so I could further research it.

You're not talking about support for the old "sodomy laws", are you ?

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:02 PM on 11/15/2009
photo

I believe it inevitable that gays will win the right to marriage, but I also think it is a gigantic emotional hot button for a lot of loons. Trying to navigate that territory is painful and will take time. I watched blacks working toward civil rights, and it took generations of marching, fighting, negotiating and compromise between people of good will on all sides--with bigots sniping from the safety of "states rights" the whole way. Gays began pushing for their rights in the 60's, and they've done phenomenally, and are now very close to what is fair. It may seem like nothing is happening, unless you can take the long view. I think Obama is trying to move toward goals that will impact all Americans first--and handle issues impacting special interest groups more gradually. The Right is ready to attack him and stir up their base at any misstep. The man is pogo-sticking through a mine-field, triple-checking every word and action. My sympathies to our gay brothers and sisters: keep pushing, you'll win because it is right. Timing is everything in war, and make no mistake, this is a cultural war.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:56 AM on 11/14/2009

"The Man" has made himself clear. Marriage is between one man and one woman.

What? Do you think he's going to have some epiphany and change his mind tomorrow? Why can't you just admit it to yourselves? He made his opinion pretty clear during his campaign.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:34 PM on 11/14/2009
- JackNasty I'm a Fan of JackNasty 66 fans permalink
photo

Funny, but prior to making "his opinion pretty clear" during his 2008 Presidential campaign, Barack Obama supported marriage equality during his tenure in the Illinois State Senate. .

During his Presidential campaign, Obama started talking out of both sides of his mouth on the issue. He attempted to appeal to African American homophobes in North Carolina by giving the so-called ex-gay Donnie McClurkin a stage. At the same time he was promising the repeal of the misnamed Defense of Marriage Act (DOMA) to the Alive B. Toklas gay Democrats in California.

Obama has already had one epiphany as you describe it. Why would you rule out a second one?

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:41 PM on 11/14/2009

Obama's shocking position that "his religious beliefs prevent him from backing full-fledged marriage equality for gay couples" reminds me of the civil rights movement when people argued that Jews, women and blacks, the mentally disabled, the elderly and any other non Boston Catholic or southern white didn't have their "religious beliefs". Andover, MA has the largest Jewish Congregation north of Boston. Andover also has the Free Church, a church formed several years ago by members of other churches who openly, expressly oppose equal rights for gays and lesbians. Every Sunday Rabbi Goldstein and Pastor Jack Daniels blather about scripture. The Rabbi doesn't meet with the peace churches. Oh no, he, like Obama, now has his civil rights.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:59 AM on 11/14/2009
- Roy Heath I'm a Fan of Roy Heath 2 fans permalink
photo

When Obama legislates on this issue, I think there will be a bigger situation or more important issue at hand that will play in his favor to repeal these laws. I don't expect any movement on DADT or DOMA unless the public has it's head turn. Not an issue to tackle in a down period.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:55 AM on 11/14/2009
photo

There is no issue more important in a democracy than civil rights.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:41 PM on 11/14/2009
- teasley I'm a Fan of teasley 5 fans permalink

Why does the President hate gays? Is he a closet knuckle dragging neanderthal? Is he afraid of his own closeted feelings? Does he just want marriage for himself? Or is he just mean spirited?

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:42 AM on 11/14/2009
photo

I really don't think he hates the gays at all. I think he is trying to appeal to both political poles, and trying not to alienate republicans. I understand where he is coming from even though I completely disagree with his policy. I really think that in his position it is best to leave it up to the states.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:56 AM on 11/14/2009
- teasley I'm a Fan of teasley 5 fans permalink

Just curious, under the same circumstances would you say the same thing about President Bush or President McCain?

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:03 AM on 11/14/2009

He made himself clear during his campaign but apparently these people missed it.

Marriage = one man and one woman

There is nothing else that can belong in that equation.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:36 PM on 11/14/2009
photo

morganhoyle DOMA prevents it being a state issue. DOMA made it a national issue.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:33 PM on 11/14/2009

When Obama and other Democrats argue that their religious beliefs point them in the direction of civil unions but not marriage for gays and lesbians, I laugh out loud. So Obama's religion-based belief is that gays and lesbians should have full legal protection for their sexual practices and only partial legal protection for their relationships? How do you get that out of a reading of your religious texts? I'm pretty sure that the truth is a little closer to "I am afraid to take the political risk to make sure that this group of Americans gets the basic right to full government recognition and protection of their families that other Americans enjoy. Gays and lesbians are just going to have to continue to experience discrimnation until public opinion swings further in their direction. When it's politically safe to do so, I and many other Democrats will suddenly have an epiphany where we come to a realization that our religion can accomodate full rights for everyone."

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:24 AM on 11/14/2009

You can have all the same rights under the title of civil union. If you can't accept that, then your "deal" really isn't that you want equality at all, is it? You want to intrude on the concept of a marriage being a union of one man and one woman.

You think this will force people to accept you in the same way. I have news for you, it will never work because you are NOT the same.

You want us to accept that you're different, and you can't even accept it yourselves.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:42 PM on 11/14/2009
- MikeHTown I'm a Fan of MikeHTown 6 fans permalink
photo

AnotherAngle, cast the first stone brother.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:24 PM on 11/14/2009
photo

You don't have a monopoly on the English language. We already have a word for the legal union of people...marriage. Words are not bound by "tradition". We will not accept separate and unequal to appease your errant notion of what a marriage is.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:39 PM on 11/14/2009
photo

AnotherAngle I couldn't possibly care less what you think of me. Why would anyone care what you thought?

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:39 PM on 11/14/2009
- Gidster I'm a Fan of Gidster 215 fans permalink
photo

Ahhh, another Christian high on her self righteous soap box telling gays they are inferior.....

How very Christian of you.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:58 PM on 11/14/2009
- Tagrid I'm a Fan of Tagrid 3 fans permalink
photo

There is something I've never understood, and I would appreciate someone enlightening me.

When two people want to get married, the first step is to go to City Hall and purchase a Marriage License.

With that Marriage License in hand they can then either go to a Justice of the Peace/Judge OR they can go see their Pastor/Pri­est/Rabbi.

If they choose to have just a Civil Ceremony, without religious involvement - they're still married, under the law, with all the rights and responsibilities of any Marriage.

If they take their Marriage License to their church or temple and have a religious ceremony - they're just as married. OK?

No government can tell any religious organization that they MUST marry anyone. That's understood. But a government CAN legalize a Civil Marriage, it's still a Marriage. Well - isn't that kind of Marriage (without coercing religions to be involved) that Obama and some states (I believe Vermont, at least) are advocating for same sex couples? A Civil Marriage? Is that different than a Civil Union?

Purchasing that Marriage License - then having to find someone to agree to perform the ceremony is all opposite sex couples have. Isn't that what same sex couples are asking for too? The legal right to pay for a Marriage License? What they, or anyone, does with their Marriage License after that isn't, and shouldn't be, dictated by law. And certainly doesn't interfere with anyone's religion, or the "sanctity" of anyone's marriage vows.

I don't understand.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:54 PM on 11/14/2009
- Gidster I'm a Fan of Gidster 215 fans permalink
photo

Good post.

Yet too logical for the : "It's against my religion, but I do not want to use that easily dismissed argument" crowd.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:05 PM on 11/14/2009
Page: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 Next › Last » (13 pages total)

 You must be logged in to comment. Log in  or connect with 

Connect