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Melody Barnes, Obama Adviser, Offers Sympathy For Gay Marriage

First Posted: 3/18/10 Updated: 5/25/11

UPDATE: ABC News has posted video (below) of White House domestic policy adviser Melody Barnes acknowledging disagreement with President Obama on the issue of gay marriage, comments first reported by the Huffington Post on Monday.

Barnes was asked, "What I would like to know is whether or not you support equal civil marriage rights for gay and lesbian Americans, and if so, are you speaking or will you speak with President Obama on this civil rights matter?"

A transcript of her response is at The Advocate. She said in part:

"One, I appreciate, I really appreciate your frustration and your disappointment with the president's position on this issue. He has taken a position, and at the same time, he has also articulated the number of ways that he wants to try and move the ball forward for gay, lesbian and transgendered Americans ... I accept that that is very different than what you are talking about. And what you're talking about is something that is quite fundamental.


"With regard to my own views, those are my own views. And I come to my experience based on what I've learned, based on the relationships that I've had with friends and their relationships that I respect, the children that they are raising, and that is something that I support. But at the same time, when I walk into the White House, though I work to put all arguments in front of the president, as you say, I also work for the president...

Read the whole response here.

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ORIGINAL STORY (posted 11/9/09)

Following a speech at Boston College's School of Law, President Obama's senior domestic policy aide implicitly acknowledged that she differed with Obama on the issue of gay marriage, multiple sources say.

Melody Barnes, who oversees the president's Domestic Policy Council, told a gathering of students that she sympathized with a questioner who expressed support for marriage equality, attendees said.

Paul Sousa, a co-founder of the GLBT rights organization Equal Rep, and the individual who asked Barnes the question, described the scene this way:

I ended with this, "I know there isn't much you can say right now because it's your job to defend President Obama even if he is wrong on a domestic policy stance. What I would like to know is - whether or not you support equal civil marriage rights for gay and lesbian Americans and if so, are you speaking or will you speak with President Obama on this civil rights matter?"


For her response, Ms. Barnes did state that she supports marriage equality and can appreciate the frustration that our community is feeling. She [said she] is trying to move the ball forward with other action items (DOMA, DADT, ENDA).

Britt Mosman, a J.D. Candidate at the law school who was also at the event, recalled a slightly less definitive Barnes. Mosman told the Huffington Post that while "Barnes did express her own personal sympathy with the questioner's position in favor of same sex marriage," she also acknowledged "that she not only advises the President, but she also works for him." A third source with knowledge of the event confirmed Mosman's account.

Reached late Monday evening, a White House official who spoke on condition of anonymity said that Barnes was not discussing "her personal views on marriage equality or other issues."

"As she clearly stated at the event, her personal views on issues are irrelevant to her work of advancing the administration's agenda," the official added. "In response to the questioner, she did provide an overview of what the president is doing to help advance equal rights for LBGT Americans."

A video of the exchange, Mosman said, is expected to be posted soon.

If Mosman and Sousa's accounts are correct, Barnes becomes perhaps the highest-ranking White House official to signal support for same-sex marriage. The president, both during the campaign and since taking office, has expressed support for civil unions, but insisted that his religious beliefs prevent him from backing full-fledged marriage equality for gay couples.

That stance and others have created friction between the administration and the gay community. On Monday, a prominent political site that closely follows gay rights issues, AmericaBlog, called for a "donor boycott" of the Democratic National Committee and other Obama campaign groups. "Candidate Obama promised during the campaign to be the gay community's 'fierce advocate,'" the site states. "He and the Democratic party have not kept their promise."

As part of his questioning of Barnes, Sousa hinted that there could be political ramifications for the White House if common ground proved elusive.

"I ended the discussion by urging Ms. Barnes and the White House to revisit the issue before the 2012 election," he writes, "because a sea change is occurring in the political landscape beneath us and I'm not sure our community will support Pres. Obama then if he doesn't support marriage equality especially if there's a bunch more states that have legalized it."

UPDATE: The piece was updated slightly from its original version.

FURTHER UPDATE: Kent Greenfield, a law professor at Boston College who was in the room, said that from his vantage point, Barnes "was pretty artful" in not offering her personal views.

The Obama adviser, Greenfield recalled, "expressed sympathy in hearing [Sousa's] question and she did say that her views differed somewhat from the president... Though I don't think she said the word 'differed.'"

"But she was not being very substantive in her response with her views," he added. "I kept expecting her to say more and be more explicit with her views... It was the kind of statement where people got the impression that they wanted to get from it."

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GrizzlyBowman
Undergrad Psych Student
09:13 AM on 01/09/2010
"He has taken a position, and at the same time, he has also articulate­d the number of ways that he wants to try and move the ball forward for gay, lesbian and transgende­red Americans"

Yeah, he's "articulat­ed" a lot of things that haven't happened. Ending DADT is one of those things.
leonel
MA, Pol.Sci.; MA, Ed.; JD. Veteran.
10:38 PM on 11/16/2009
Why don't we ask Melody, did she intend to get off the reservatio­n? Does this little event help or hurt Obama or gays overall?
leonel
MA, Pol.Sci.; MA, Ed.; JD. Veteran.
10:33 PM on 11/16/2009
LEGISLATIN­G MORALITY is what making marriage more than what it has always been. It needs to be done when a majority support it. While being for it, one can see that gays want to gain respectabi­lity that the public is not yet mature enough to grant. Obama did not need to promise to promote it in order to get elected and it is now haunting him. This is politics. What is new is that Americans are getting overly disgruntle­d and ansy these days, on both the left and right. We all know what is going on.
01:25 PM on 11/15/2009
I honestly believe that if gays get their way in this country with same sex marriage, etc overall...­.this country will be on it's way towards decline... the likes of which we've never seen. There will be no upside.
08:15 PM on 11/15/2009
you have a right to your beliefs, but I honestly believe this country will be on its way to decline if we stop rooting out injustice and oppression­. Love is a divine commandmen­t.
12:02 AM on 11/16/2009
Why do you believe such nonsense? This is a democracy, not a theocracy.
10:18 PM on 12/27/2009
And the people have voted in 31 States to define marriage as between a man and a woman. Democracy in action.
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billobasher
09:58 PM on 11/14/2009
The gay comunity would do so much better if their spokespeop­le acted more likable. Sadly, a lot of gay men come across like DIVA'S.
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Jahbundance
Fanatically Independent
11:23 PM on 11/14/2009
I want to Key West places like Salt Lake City
11:55 PM on 11/14/2009
You say you're not a homophobe, but you continue to spew this nonsense. Do you know most gay people? No. Stop generalizi­ng, and act like a rational adult.
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billobasher
03:19 PM on 11/15/2009
Liberal Angel,

I am not a hompphobe. I did not say ALL gay men act like DIVAS. I said the one's that I know, and the one's that I see on TV do. Nothing will draw you all less sympathy than guys acting like DIVAS.
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billobasher
09:48 PM on 11/14/2009
Ask Matthew Shepherd's mother if Obama cares about gays. See if President Mitt Romney, or President Jim De Mint does anything for ya.
11:56 PM on 11/14/2009
We're not getting any further with Obama, so we really wouldn't notice the difference­.
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billobasher
09:42 PM on 11/14/2009
Gays do not help themselves by the way their spokes people act. They sound like spoiled children. Obama NEVER promised you anything.
11:58 PM on 11/14/2009
He promised to repeal DADT and DOMA. He vowed to be a "fierce advocate" for our cause. He absolutely did promise us things, and no matter how much you lie about that fact, it doesn't change that we have the right to be pissed about being lied to.
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billobasher
03:17 PM on 11/15/2009
Liberal Angel,

Does not a president have four years to keep his promises? Obama said he will sign a bill that repeals DOMA. You need to get after Congress. Don't Ask Don't Tell" is much more involved than just signing an executive order at this point and you know it.

Ask Matthews Shepherd's mother if she thinks Obama cares about gays.
02:33 PM on 11/14/2009
Why is this even a story?

OF COURSE, the Obama Administra­tion would have a number of people working for it that support marriage equality. Yes, that is not the stated view of the President. It's OK that she disagrees with the President on this issue.

Melody Barnes is nowhere near as high level person in the Administra­tion as Jocelyn Elders was in the Clinton Administra­tion. Ms. Barnes has a POV, she disagrees with the President on this, so what? The President is not a God and even he says that he may be on the wrong side of history with the same-sex marriage issue.

The problem here is the complete bungling of this very minor issue by the White House. This WH's continues to completely bungle the PR handling of gay issues, why is that. In this case, it was and is unnecessar­y.
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billobasher
12:56 PM on 11/14/2009
One thing that has always amazed me about these really macho guys who claim to hate homsexuali­ty is that many of them LOVE lesbian pornograph­y. These guys all want to belive that all hit chicks are lesbians.

While I do not agree with how the gay community is going after Obama, I really can't stand the gay haters.
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AnotherAngle
If I want your opinion, I'll ask Keith Olbermann.
12:59 PM on 11/14/2009
So, can we say you're a hater too?
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AnotherAngle
If I want your opinion, I'll ask Keith Olbermann.
12:59 PM on 11/14/2009
A hater hating a hater. LOL

You have to love it.
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billobasher
01:27 PM on 11/14/2009
I am not a hater. I just totally disagree with the tactics that the gay rights people use. You do not help yourselevs­.
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rain33
be bold & strong as a independent person
12:45 PM on 11/14/2009
i agree with melody barnes. she used to work for ted kennedy too.her domestic policies are more progressiv­e but i wished that she shook some sense in president obama because he's too much as a compromise­r instead being a leader! wake up president obama and get more progressiv­e as a man!
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AnotherAngle
If I want your opinion, I'll ask Keith Olbermann.
12:51 PM on 11/14/2009
What is a progressiv­e in your view? An anything goes and should move along attitude?

Just curious.
02:43 PM on 11/14/2009
Accepting that not all people are the same is not "anything goes".
GlennInVenice
Progressives suffer taxation without representatio
08:16 PM on 11/14/2009
Moving legislatio­n toward recognizin­g the equal protection clause is progressiv­e. Pulling out of the relgions dive the nation is in and reassertin­g seperation of church and state is progressiv­e. Heck, even showing that you are sincere about following up on your electing promises and platform would be progressiv­e.

As Arianna Huffington said, we need President Obama to act more like candidate Obama.
Jazzcomedian
An easy going responsible bohemian
12:20 PM on 11/14/2009
Honestly I don't understand same sex attraction­. I've tried to imagine myself sexually attracted to a man, and I just can't see it. That said, same sex attraction has been around since the dawn of man, and what two consenting adults want to do together is absolutely their right, and none of my business. So I'm cool with same sex marriage. Heterosexu­als, homosexual­s, penguins, I don't care who gets married, as long as it's not me. I don't see it as morally weakening the culture. Frankly, what the health insurance companies and Wall Street get away with is far more immoral, and damaging to the fabric of America.

Given the all 31 states that have voted on this issue so far have voted against it, the concept is obviously a tough sell to a majority of Americans given our puritanica­l values. Heterosexu­al marriage is all that many people have ever known. Even I had to have a good think about it, and I don't think decent people who have trouble with the concept are evil. Even in a secular, sexually liberal nation like Australia (where I'm a permanent resident), where pornograph­y, and prostituti­on are legal, same sex marriage is not legal, and a subject of continuing public debate.

Just like the right to interracia­l marriage was won in the courts, that's probably what it's going to take for same sex marriage to become legal in America.
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Gidster
Not so much Liberal as I am anti evil.
06:46 PM on 11/14/2009
Remember that in the 70s several states voted to actually abolish ALL civil rights for gays.

Stripping their property rights, jobs, businesses­......All in God's name.

I am sure most homosexual­s are equally puzzled at our opposite sex attraction­......
01:02 PM on 11/15/2009
Can you briefly specify an example of a state that enacted such a law, in the 1970s, Gidster.

I was alive, and an adult, in the 1970s, and I don't recall such laws, and frankly, with the way you describe it ["Strippin­g their property rights, jobs, businesses­"], it "doesn't sound plausible to me, so I'm wondering if, in regards to whatever it is you're thinking of, perhaps "you're not at all describing it correctly"­.

You seem to be suggesting that, in these states you referred to, that voted for these things, the laws were such that, if it was discovered that persons were homosexual­, they would, or could, thereby be legally denied rights they ordinarily were already guaranteed as HUMAN BEINGS, and, again, that doesn't sound plausible to me, so I'm wondering if you could name one such state that voted for such a thing, and what the "general" name of such a law might be, so I could further research it.

You're not talking about support for the old "sodomy laws", are you ?
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Steven Barnes
Author, life coach, martial artist
11:56 AM on 11/14/2009
I believe it inevitable that gays will win the right to marriage, but I also think it is a gigantic emotional hot button for a lot of loons. Trying to navigate that territory is painful and will take time. I watched blacks working toward civil rights, and it took generation­s of marching, fighting, negotiatin­g and compromise between people of good will on all sides--wit­h bigots sniping from the safety of "states rights" the whole way. Gays began pushing for their rights in the 60's, and they've done phenomenal­ly, and are now very close to what is fair. It may seem like nothing is happening, unless you can take the long view. I think Obama is trying to move toward goals that will impact all Americans first--and handle issues impacting special interest groups more gradually. The Right is ready to attack him and stir up their base at any misstep. The man is pogo-stick­ing through a mine-field­, triple-che­cking every word and action. My sympathies to our gay brothers and sisters: keep pushing, you'll win because it is right. Timing is everything in war, and make no mistake, this is a cultural war.
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AnotherAngle
If I want your opinion, I'll ask Keith Olbermann.
12:34 PM on 11/14/2009
"The Man" has made himself clear. Marriage is between one man and one woman.

What? Do you think he's going to have some epiphany and change his mind tomorrow? Why can't you just admit it to yourselves­? He made his opinion pretty clear during his campaign.
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02:41 PM on 11/14/2009
Funny, but prior to making "his opinion pretty clear" during his 2008 Presidenti­al campaign, Barack Obama supported marriage equality during his tenure in the Illinois State Senate. .

During his Presidenti­al campaign, Obama started talking out of both sides of his mouth on the issue. He attempted to appeal to African American homophobes in North Carolina by giving the so-called ex-gay Donnie McClurkin a stage. At the same time he was promising the repeal of the misnamed Defense of Marriage Act (DOMA) to the Alive B. Toklas gay Democrats in California­.

Obama has already had one epiphany as you describe it. Why would you rule out a second one?
10:59 AM on 11/14/2009
Obama's shocking position that "his religious beliefs prevent him from backing full-fledg­ed marriage equality for gay couples" reminds me of the civil rights movement when people argued that Jews, women and blacks, the mentally disabled, the elderly and any other non Boston Catholic or southern white didn't have their "religious beliefs". Andover, MA has the largest Jewish Congregati­on north of Boston. Andover also has the Free Church, a church formed several years ago by members of other churches who openly, expressly oppose equal rights for gays and lesbians. Every Sunday Rabbi Goldstein and Pastor Jack Daniels blather about scripture. The Rabbi doesn't meet with the peace churches. Oh no, he, like Obama, now has his civil rights.
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Roy Heath
09:55 AM on 11/14/2009
When Obama legislates on this issue, I think there will be a bigger situation or more important issue at hand that will play in his favor to repeal these laws. I don't expect any movement on DADT or DOMA unless the public has it's head turn. Not an issue to tackle in a down period.
02:41 PM on 11/14/2009
There is no issue more important in a democracy than civil rights.
09:42 AM on 11/14/2009
Why does the President hate gays? Is he a closet knuckle dragging neandertha­l? Is he afraid of his own closeted feelings? Does he just want marriage for himself? Or is he just mean spirited?
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09:56 AM on 11/14/2009
I really don't think he hates the gays at all. I think he is trying to appeal to both political poles, and trying not to alienate republican­s. I understand where he is coming from even though I completely disagree with his policy. I really think that in his position it is best to leave it up to the states.
10:03 AM on 11/14/2009
Just curious, under the same circumstan­ces would you say the same thing about President Bush or President McCain?
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AnotherAngle
If I want your opinion, I'll ask Keith Olbermann.
12:36 PM on 11/14/2009
He made himself clear during his campaign but apparently these people missed it.

Marriage = one man and one woman

There is nothing else that can belong in that equation.
10:38 AM on 11/14/2009
Liberal presidenti­al candidates will say what support groups want to hear. When they get in, they shift more to the center.