Some Dems Vow To Block Final Health Bill If Anti-Abortion Amendment Stays

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First Posted: 11- 9-09 09:04 AM   |   Updated: 11- 9-09 12:13 PM

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Diana Degette

The Plum Line:

In a move that will intensify the coming war over how to treat abortion in the health care bill, more than three dozen House Dems have signed a letter to Nancy Pelosi firmly pledging to vote against the bill if it contains an anti-abortion amendment.

A source sends over a working copy of the letter without the signatories, and a source says it currently bears the signatures of 41 House Dems. They're all vowing to vote No on a bill if it contains the Stupak amendment -- enough to sink the bill:

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In a move that will intensify the coming war over how to treat abortion in the health care bill, more than three dozen House Dems have signed a letter to Nancy Pelosi firmly pledging to vote against t...
In a move that will intensify the coming war over how to treat abortion in the health care bill, more than three dozen House Dems have signed a letter to Nancy Pelosi firmly pledging to vote against t...
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- sarabono I'm a Fan of sarabono 18 fans permalink

This abortion thing is causing so much trouble that why don't the develop a list of procedures which are not covered such as elective abortion, boob augmentation, penal implants, hair reconstruction, etc.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:11 AM on 11/12/2009
- Jaime13 I'm a Fan of Jaime13 3 fans permalink

so it's all or nothing? we narrowly got this through, I can't believe people are willing to throw it away for this. I have a brother counting on this bill to give him a chance to have insurance in case his cancer comes back. like I said, I understand it's about more than just elective abortion but it's just not as important as the people counting on reform for a chance at life.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:44 PM on 11/10/2009
- MakeAWish I'm a Fan of MakeAWish 22 fans permalink

What gives men wearing robes and wearing ugly hats and who live in a men's only club, the right and power to control legislation regarding what a woman can or cannot do with her body?

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:43 PM on 11/10/2009
- Jaime13 I'm a Fan of Jaime13 3 fans permalink

I don't the outrage here, I'm pro-choice but do not think tax payer money should pay for elective abortions either. I understand that this is about more about the blocking of private insurance for it but it is simply not worth it to not vote for the bill because of this. This is one compromise that must be made to get this bill through. There are people counting on this reform to happen.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:36 AM on 11/10/2009
- MakeAWish I'm a Fan of MakeAWish 22 fans permalink

No, this is one compromise that should stop this bill cold in it's tracks.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:33 PM on 11/10/2009
- S1m0n I'm a Fan of S1m0n 96 fans permalink
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Good for them.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:32 AM on 11/10/2009
- Ramirez I'm a Fan of Ramirez 264 fans permalink
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Here's an idea: Let's have the government control our health insurance and then we can have congressmen vote on the procedures they will cover.

Everyone good with that?

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:31 AM on 11/10/2009

um. which plan do congressduds use? do they have to do exactly same as us?pay $15k in 2016?

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:43 AM on 11/10/2009
- Trittydi I'm a Fan of Trittydi 65 fans permalink
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Good - they should do this. The Stupak amendment is only and completely about denying women a legal reproductive right.

As Obama pointed out - this is NOT an abortion bill - it is a health care bill.
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    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:22 PM on 11/09/2009
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Stupak has dropped a poison pill into the bill. And he's a Democrat. Who needs Republicans?
The range of political debate is so narrow in America, that being anti-abortion is considered "centrist"?
People in other countries laugh when they hear Obama called a socialist by some Americans. A president who opposes gay marriage, supports Israel unconditionally, won't hear of single-payer health insurance, brings Wall Street gamblers into his administration, and escalates an occupation of a Muslim country, a socalist? Very funny.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:08 AM on 11/10/2009
- mergina I'm a Fan of mergina 84 fans permalink
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Yeah but the the gutless dems and Obama will sign a bill with it in it.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:12 AM on 11/10/2009
- Ifticar2 I'm a Fan of Ifticar2 22 fans permalink
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I love it. Moonbats fighting with Moonbats. It does not get any better.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:55 PM on 11/09/2009
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Please write in something other than conservative code. This is not Glenn Beck, it's the Huffington Post.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:00 AM on 11/10/2009
- mergina I'm a Fan of mergina 84 fans permalink
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Could you tighten your tie more, A LOT MORE.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:12 AM on 11/10/2009
- dawnec1957 I'm a Fan of dawnec1957 54 fans permalink
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think about it this way.....Th­e rich man want the poor women to have the fetus so they can adopt the child when it is born. No more paying for a surrogate, or leaving the US to get a newborn...­.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:24 PM on 11/09/2009
- 1088 I'm a Fan of 1088 100 fans permalink

Blue Dogs need to be voted out!!

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:12 PM on 11/09/2009
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I thought that abortion is an elective surgery. We should focus on procedures that are necessary. Abortions that must be performed in order to save the life of the mother is another situation however.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:08 PM on 11/09/2009
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If you had a severely deformed fetus growing in your belly -- and no way to care for it as you are single, 19 and barely scraping by -- you'd sing a COMPLETELY different song.

Elective is in the eye of the beholder.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:32 PM on 11/09/2009
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Elective?
126,000 elective procedures per day around the world....y­eah, right.

Abortion is a need as old as human history.

For info:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/22321349/Natural-Liberty-Rediscovering-Self-Induced-Abortion-Methods

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:32 PM on 11/09/2009

abortion is a need? then why arent all pregnancies terminated? why wasnt yours?

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:44 AM on 11/10/2009
- lwfky I'm a Fan of lwfky 11 fans permalink

I think we should be working on the technology to allow men to carry a fetus. Then we can just transplant the fetus to a man ( willing or not) and have him carry the child, then pay for the upbringing.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:24 PM on 11/09/2009
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What the h e l l has happened to HP today?

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:02 PM on 11/09/2009
- unscum I'm a Fan of unscum 9 fans permalink

WSJ: Do you agree with the House passing the bill to overhaul health care?

http://online.wsj.com/community/groups/question-day-229/topics/do-you-agree-house-passing

Please Vote.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:01 PM on 11/09/2009

Wow, overwhelming "No"

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:06 PM on 11/09/2009
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Why? Most people don't know what's good for them anyways. It's like the poll which says that the majority of people are 'happy' with their health coverage. It's bogus. Most people don't find themselves in a position where they have to take advantage of their health coverage. If they did, I think those numbers would drop.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:11 PM on 11/09/2009
- hidenout I'm a Fan of hidenout 8 fans permalink

Most people don't even know what the bill says......­..

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:06 PM on 11/09/2009

To the 41 Democrats who have just took leave of their senses, Sit you fannies down with Nancy Pelosi and stop leaking this stuff to the press.

Remember that you are not Republicans and we will not have their behavior surface in the 41 of you without reminding you to stop sucking your thumbs and get this bill passed, it aint that deep.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:59 PM on 11/09/2009
- vinny I'm a Fan of vinny 73 fans permalink
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this appears to be feigned outrage...

there is nothing in the amendment to limit women's reproductive rights...

if women want abortion insurance, they can pay for it themselves through a private plan...

(even if they are enrolled in the public plan)

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:51 PM on 11/09/2009
- Tuckerndfw I'm a Fan of Tuckerndfw 102 fans permalink

Why would anyone buy abortion insurance?

Do people expect to accidentally get pregnant and have abortions on a regular basis?

Abortion insurance would be more expensive than just paying for an abortion.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:55 PM on 11/09/2009
- vinny I'm a Fan of vinny 73 fans permalink
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yet some have the expectation that the public should share the cost of abortions while insurance companies profit from it...

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:01 PM on 11/09/2009
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