Bill Clinton To Speak To Democratic Senators About Health Bill

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DAVID ESPO | 11/10/09 09:41 PM | AP

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WASHINGTON — Former President Bill Clinton urged Senate Democrats on Tuesday to pass health care legislation by year's end, pointedly telling skittish lawmakers that an imperfect bill is preferable to another failure like the one he and the party endured in 1994.

"It's not important to be perfect here. It's important to act, to move, to start the ball rolling," the former president told reporters after the closed-door meeting, held on the cusp of Senate debate on intensely controversial legislation. The House cleared its version of the bill late Saturday night on a narrow, party-line vote of 220-215.

Clinton made an unusual visit to the party's weekly closed-door caucus meeting at the invitation of Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., who has said he hopes the Senate can vote on a bill before the year is out and took a step during the day to allow debate to begin as early as next week.

Aides said Reid has yet to receive final information from the Congressional Budget Office on the costs and coverage implications of the still-secret legislation he submitted more than two weeks ago. As soon as he does, he intends to launch a historic debate on legislation to expand coverage to millions who lack it, crack down on insurance industry practices and curb the rise in health care spending nationally.

Several Democrats who attended the meeting with Clinton said the former president did not express an opinion on many of the controversial issues embedded in the health care debate. These range from calls for a government-run insurance option to the availability of abortion coverage in private and government insurance.

"He wasn't asked that and he didn't volunteer to solve Sen. Reid's immediate problems," said Sen. Ben Cardin, D-Md.

Instead, several Democrats said, Clinton told them that expanding health care is good policy, and at the same time the best politics.

"He did address it, essentially to say, 'You're going to do it, and then people are going to begin to see that none of the bad things people are talking about will come to pass,'" said Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif.

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Sen. Frank Lautenberg, D-N.J., said the former president reflected on his own experience on the issue and told Democrats that "we got lost in the magnitude of the problem, and in search for a more perfect answer I lost the fight."

Clinton's attempt to enact nationwide health coverage collapsed in dramatic fashion in 1994 without ever coming to a vote in either house, and is widely cited as a contributing factor in the Democrats' loss of control of Congress in that year's midterm elections.

Republicans are attempting to stir echoes of that era, attacking various Democratic versions of the legislation as a government takeover of health care, and warning that moderate and conservative Democrats risk losing their seats if they vote for it.

Given the former president's experience, he may have seemed like a curious choice to speak to the caucus. But Cardin told reporters Clinton has "great respect from every member of our caucus." And his advice – not to get caught up in the details – is a message Reid and the White House hope rank-and-file Democrats will take to heart as they debate the complex legislation.

In the House, Democrats were torn for weeks over the design of a government coverage option, and once that was resolved, Speaker Nancy Pelosi had to confront a mini-rebellion among Hispanic lawmakers concerned with the bill's treatment of illegal immigrants and a division over limitations on abortion.

Whenever Reid begins debate, Republicans say it will last for weeks if not months, calling the end-of-the-year timetable into question.

"We're going to spend a number of weeks on this, reminiscent of important Senate debates in the recent past," said the Republican leader, Sen. Mitch McConnell of Kentucky. "We spent four weeks on a farm bill last Congress. Eight weeks on energy in the last decade."

There were political repercussions from the House vote.

Rep. Anh (Joseph) Cao, R-La., the only Republican to support the legislation, said some of his donors have asked for their money back and two of his fundraising events have been canceled.

House Minority Whip Eric Cantor, R-Va., said he was disappointed by Cao's vote, but he said he plans no political retaliation. Cao, a Vietnamese-American, represents a New Orleans-based district that is black, poor and overwhelmingly Democratic. He defeated William Jefferson last year after the veteran lawmaker was indicted on corruption charges.

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Associated Press writers Ricardo Alonso-Zaldivar, Charles Babington, Donna Cassata, Julie Davis and Erica Werner contributed to this report.

WASHINGTON — Former President Bill Clinton urged Senate Democrats on Tuesday to pass health care legislation by year's end, pointedly telling skittish lawmakers that an imperfect bill is prefera...
WASHINGTON — Former President Bill Clinton urged Senate Democrats on Tuesday to pass health care legislation by year's end, pointedly telling skittish lawmakers that an imperfect bill is prefera...
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- ekrub I'm a Fan of ekrub 2 fans permalink
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I can never pass up the opportunity to express my undying love and admiration for President Bill Clinton. *sigh*

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:07 AM on 11/11/2009
- bobm0001 I'm a Fan of bobm0001 4 fans permalink

The Democrats should put Bill Clinton on the road. He has a great ability to speak to the masses in language they understand. Clinton has great stories about health care systems and their impact in countries around the world.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:10 AM on 11/11/2009
- battlez I'm a Fan of battlez 7 fans permalink
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Trolling for interns...­..........

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:23 PM on 11/10/2009

WHO is trolling for interns? That's the question!

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:34 PM on 11/10/2009
- oberon123 I'm a Fan of oberon123 12 fans permalink

Last time I checked Barack Obama was president, not Bill Clinton. Why does Bill Clinton have to go fight Obama's fights? Obama too busy drinking beer with incompetent cops and college professors? To say Obama has been a disappointment is an understatement.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:39 PM on 11/10/2009
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Obama will readily bend over for Saudi kings.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:26 AM on 11/11/2009
- ladyvoter I'm a Fan of ladyvoter 6 fans permalink

I commend Congressman Cao for his courage. He is representing his constituents, unlike some congressmen who are lying to their constituents about health care reform and hoping that scare tactics will prevail and the people they are supposed to serve will not notice that they've been sold out to the insurance and for profit medical lobby. I'm betting Cao will be re-elected. And I also bet that if health care reform passes and people realize the lies that were fed to them, some folks might not be around . You can't find many people nowadays who will own up to not supporting Medicare or Social Security and this will be no different.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:19 PM on 11/10/2009

It's very noble of Bill Clinton to tell the Dems not to get hung up on details, with the old gag about not letting the perfect become the enemy of the good. He should have consulted Hillary first. At this moment the House version with the Stupak-Ritz travesty is a sword aimed directly at women. Obama is right in his statement that what the House brought forth violates the promise of keeping good plans unchanged for those who wish to continue in them. If that travesty isn't dropped in the final reconciliation, the DeGette troops will sink it all -- and rightly. As of now the Blue Dogs have become the Muddy Skunks.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:49 PM on 11/10/2009
- jmpurser I'm a Fan of jmpurser 155 fans permalink

I don't care who comes in and barnstorms for it. It is a TERRIBLE bill. It amounts to a massive corporate welfare bill. Scrap this and start over.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:41 PM on 11/10/2009

Big Dawg to the rescue.

Get those yelping blue dogs in line!

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:17 PM on 11/10/2009

2 rules that should never be forgotten:

1. Keep It Simple Stupid (having worked with the public, the last word is paramount).
2. No Hire is better than a bad hire (remember we are hiring bureaucrats to manage our health).

Passing anything just because we need something is disaster waiting to happen.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:06 PM on 11/10/2009
- MJinCanada I'm a Fan of MJinCanada 106 fans permalink

It's not quite the same thing as hiring an employee, though. This is more like forming a new department or committee for a specific need and figuring out the details of its scope as you go along.

It would be really nice if you guys could just get proper universal health care straight off, and quite frankly, the fastest and easiest way to get that would have been to nationalize all the health insurance companies and consolidate them into what we in Canada would call a Crown corporation. However, you've still got people checking under the bed for the commies they heard about back in 1959, so just getting a toe in the door is probably your best start.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:35 PM on 11/10/2009
- ladyvoter I'm a Fan of ladyvoter 6 fans permalink

What some folks fail to realize is that large insurance companies are bureaucratic. It took my private health provided 8 months to straigthen out an automatic withdrawal from my bank account. I worked with both Medicare and private pay insurance companies over the first year after I retired. I never had the first problem with Medicare but the private insurance company openly lied to me about the chance of my premium increasing and could not get basic business taken care of.
I used to believe that private business was superior to government but I've learned that the really big companies are not only no better than government, but are in some cases they are worse. The old bad government, good corporations won't fly anymore.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:25 PM on 11/10/2009
- tralfazz0 I'm a Fan of tralfazz0 4 fans permalink

Why are so many people NOT PAYING ATTENTION? When the public option was first proposed, the Republicans chortled, "the government can't run anything right, that will NEVER work". Then, suddenly, they complained, "but this will put the insurance companies out of business!" Well, which is it? Isn't competition at the core of the free market system? The only reason that these corporations can't compete with a government-run plan is that they have come to expect obscene profits for their stockholders, and even more ridiculous salaries for their upper-echelon pencil-twiddlers! To me the solution is simple: Pay attention to how your elected officials vote on this, and if they don't represent your interests, VOTE AGAINST THEM NEXT ELECTION! The polls keep telling us that well over half of us want the public option, so if we don't get it, let's get rid of the crooks who subverted our mandate! For that matter, call your Senators today, and let them know that you are PAYING ATTENTION. All the shady campaign contributions in the world won't change MY vote! How about you?

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:02 PM on 11/10/2009
- goodog I'm a Fan of goodog 128 fans permalink
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"upper-echelon pencil-twiddlers!"

Winner: Hyphenated Doink of the Day Award

luvs it.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:09 PM on 11/10/2009
- j-tho I'm a Fan of j-tho 19 fans permalink
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terrific news! i hope it works! we desperately need some big guns in this battle, and leadership.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:52 PM on 11/10/2009
- jmpurser I'm a Fan of jmpurser 155 fans permalink

We needed leadership. Unfortunately we got Obama and the "public option". Time to dump this scam and start over.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:39 PM on 11/10/2009
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And you thought leadership would come from ... where?

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:43 PM on 11/10/2009
- PWM I'm a Fan of PWM 257 fans permalink
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fanned

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:07 PM on 11/10/2009
- KriTiKiT I'm a Fan of KriTiKiT 42 fans permalink
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here comes the accountability cannon! break out the scotch!

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:01 PM on 11/10/2009
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Clinton still has it in him, very much so.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:40 PM on 11/10/2009

Hey, can any one list the profits of each health care company and CEO's salaries? Someone did this in the past, and I didn't have a chance to copy it. Having quite a debate with a repug, and really, really need to educate him. Need the facts, even though he probably wouldn't listen. . .
I gotta give it a try. Need your help ! ! ! ! ! !

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:06 PM on 11/10/2009
- goodog I'm a Fan of goodog 128 fans permalink
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Here's a good one.

http://www.isle-of-avalon.net/DerInsuranceUntergang.html

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:15 PM on 11/10/2009

If Hi-llary Cl-inton were elected prez, she would have abandoned the health are reform a long ago.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:24 PM on 11/10/2009
- kappa08 I'm a Fan of kappa08 77 fans permalink
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..now that's just brilliant.­..*flush*

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:27 PM on 11/10/2009
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She would probably would abandon health are reform but I doubt if she would abandon health care reform. And, anyway, are you channeling her or something?

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:47 PM on 11/10/2009
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