North Korea And South Korea Navy Boats Exchange Fire

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HYUNG-JIN KIM | 11/10/09 11:42 PM | AP

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ILE - In this June 15, 2009 photo, South Korean Navy patrol boats engage in an exercise in the West Sea, South Korea. Navy ships of the two Koreas exchanged fire Tuesday, Nov. 10, 2009, along their disputed western sea border, a South Korean military officer said.

SEOUL, South Korea — South Korea's troops went on high alert Wednesday for possible retaliation by North Korea after one of its navy ships was nearly destroyed and an officer reportedly killed in a skirmish with the South, ahead of a visit by President Barack Obama.

The clash Tuesday along the disputed western sea border was the first such engagement in seven years, sending tensions soaring about a week before Obama travels to Seoul as part of his Asian tour.

The exchange of fire also occurred just hours before the State Department announced a senior U.S. diplomat will travel to North Korea before year's end to try to entice North Korea back into international negotiations on nuclear disarmament. The dispatch of envoy Stephen Bosworth would mark the first direct talks between Washington and Pyongyang since Obama took office in January.

South Korean officials said the North Korean ship was on fire and heavily damaged following a two-minute skirmish off the west coast – the scene of two bloody naval battles in 1999 and 2002. The South Korean ship was only lightly damaged and there were no South Korean causalities, according to the Joint Chiefs of Staff.

South Korea's mass-circulation Chosun Ilbo newspaper and other media reported that one North Korean officer was believed killed and three other sailors wounded. President Lee Myung-bak ordered his Defense Minister Kim Tae-young to strengthen military readiness.

Late Tuesday, Kim said in parliament that he believed the North may take retaliatory action. "The president also has such concerns," Kim said.

South Korea's 680,000-strong military was on heightened alert but detected no unusual North Korean troop movements, an officer at the Joint Chiefs of Staff said.

Asked if U.S. troops in South Korea had raised their alert level, David Oten, a spokesman for the U.S. military in Seoul, said it does not comment on operational or security issues. The U.S. stations about 28,500 troops in South Korea to deter possible North Korean aggression.

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The officer, speaking on condition of anonymity citing department policy, said the heightened posture meant having troops stay vigilant but that there were no additional deployments in border areas. South Korean ships did routine patrols along the sea border Wednesday, he said.

Presidential security adviser Kim Sung-hwan was quoted as saying by Yonhap news agency that signs of a North Korean retaliation have not been detected. Kim, however, said North Korea may take time before retaliating.

Yonhap also quoted an unidentified government official as saying that North Korea had also put its troops on high alert.

The Koreas blamed each other Tuesday for causing the skirmish in the rich crab-fishing area, where both sides regularly accuse the other of border violations.

A North Korean patrol boat crossed the disputed sea border before noon on Tuesday, drawing warning shots from a South Korean navy vessel, South Korea's Joint Chiefs of Staff said in a statement. It said the North Korean boat then opened fire and the South's ship returned fire before the North's vessel sailed back toward its waters.

The ships were about two miles (3.2 kilometers) apart during the clash, South Korean Rear Adm. Lee Ki-sik told reporters.

North Korea's military said its ship was attacked by South Korean vessels as it was returning from checking on "an unidentified object that intruded" into its waters.

South Korean Prime Minister Chung Un-chan said Tuesday the North Koreas may have been clamping down on Chinese fishing vessels in the area, and probably did not intend to violate the border.

Some South Korean analysts, however, said North Korea was sending a clear message ahead of Obama's two-day visit starting next Wednesday.

"It was an intentional provocation by North Korea to draw attention ahead of Obama's trip," said Shin Yul, a political scientist at Seoul's Myongji University.

Traveling with Obama on Air Force One, White House spokesman Robert Gibbs said the administration was aware of the clash and urged North Korea not to escalate tensions.

The two Koreas are still technically at war and the U.S., which fought as part of U.N. forces on South Korea's side, has never had diplomatic relations with North Korea.

Washington has consistently said that Pyongyang must abandon its nuclear arsenal for any peace treaty to be concluded. North Korea has conducted two underground nuclear tests since 2006 and is believed to have enough weaponized plutonium for half a dozen atomic weapons.

The U.S. will send Bosworth to North Korea in part of its efforts to get the North to return stalled six-nation nuclear talks involving the two Koreas, the U.S., China, Russia and China.

Some analysts said the clash could have been accidental.

"This is not the first naval incident, and it is a border area where both sides have different claims," Charles Morrison, president of the Honolulu-based East-West Center, said in Singapore. "So it's possible it's an error."

South Korea's military said North Korean ships have violated the sea border 22 times this year. North Korea last month accused South Korean warships of broaching its territory and warned of a clash.

No South Koreans were killed in 1999, but six South Korean sailors died in 2002, according to the South Korean navy. It said exact North Korean causalities remain unclear.

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Associated Press writers Kelly Olsen and Kwang-tae Kim in Seoul, National Security Writer Robert Burns in Washington, Ben Feller on Air Force One and Alex Kennedy in Singapore contributed to this report.

SEOUL, South Korea — South Korea's troops went on high alert Wednesday for possible retaliation by North Korea after one of its navy ships was nearly destroyed and an officer reportedly killed i...
SEOUL, South Korea — South Korea's troops went on high alert Wednesday for possible retaliation by North Korea after one of its navy ships was nearly destroyed and an officer reportedly killed i...
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- cardineau I'm a Fan of cardineau 35 fans permalink
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Who would benefit most from this incident? That will more than likely point out which side violated first. The US wants to stay in control in South Korea. Tension on the border would block some of the protesters who want the US to go home. North Korea wants direct talks with the US . Why would they aggravate the situation at this time? Lots of questions unanswered.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:34 PM on 11/10/2009

Irrespective of how this plays out, one can thankfully rely on the old suggestion that, when in doubt, one should eat.

Of course, presumably, not an Asian Pear and Arugula Salad with the Acacia honeyed Thyme Flower dressing which was featured in this month's Food and Wine.

Manuel

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:01 PM on 11/10/2009
- bwenston42 I'm a Fan of bwenston42 4 fans permalink
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There goes the price of crude.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:15 PM on 11/10/2009
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This need for attention is just appalling - Iran must be the envy of every mad man on the planet!

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:31 PM on 11/10/2009
- myj66 I'm a Fan of myj66 2 fans permalink
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"Pull troops out of Korea"?

Heck No! the shoppings to good! Can't wait to get back!

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:13 PM on 11/10/2009
- garcia83 I'm a Fan of garcia83 4 fans permalink
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can't we all just get along?

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:41 PM on 11/10/2009

Mr.President, sorry to inform you but no more troops to send. You will have to man up and settle the sqwab between north and the south. You and Kim , no holds barred, winner take all. The free world is counting on you Mr.President, time for you guys to do some heavy lifting .

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:02 PM on 11/10/2009
- Bitsko I'm a Fan of Bitsko 482 fans permalink
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What does your comment have to do with the President sending an envoy to the area?

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:31 PM on 11/10/2009
- gschear I'm a Fan of gschear 54 fans permalink
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Wait! I think he has something here. One on one basketball between Kim Jong Ill and President Obama! The loser gives up his nukes, resigns his office and orders his Country to reunify with it's estranged Southern region!
The proceeds from the world wide pay per view could go be used to buy Joe Lieberman a comfortable retirement estate in Israel!

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:48 PM on 11/10/2009

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    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:45 AM on 11/10/2009

North and South were going to re-unify.
The US blocked it. S. Korea wants our troops gone.
If they do that S.K. cant dump goods on our markets.
The US wants global conflict for an inflated foreign threat.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:43 AM on 11/10/2009
- bwenston42 I'm a Fan of bwenston42 4 fans permalink
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WHAT

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:19 PM on 11/10/2009
- Durango I'm a Fan of Durango 134 fans permalink

Not good. Not good at all.

But if this is simply the way North Korea tries to get attention? Maybe not so serious.

Could entire nations act like spoiled children in need of the attention?

I always had a more rationalist view of the world. But that certainly seems to be the way North Korea operates. We know Kim Jong Il's Daddy did a number on him.

But what about his Mommy?

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:52 AM on 11/10/2009

I see some people worrying needlessly about this. I served some time doing border duty on the Czech border during the cold war. At that time the Bundeswehr couldn't go within 1 klick of the border, the BGS yes but not the Bundeswehr so most of the border patrols were with US troops sometimes We had to be careful inside the 1 k zone, we couldn't wear K pot's, protective masks, and no armored vehicles. A border violation could be considered an act of war. We were on aerial OP which is just staring at their aircraft while we tried to provoke them with ours. Thats the short of it not what our actual orders where. To make this short a Cobra gunship had provoked a Hind-D gunship into a border violation known as shadowing. The Hind forced the Cobra to land about 100 meters from our OP, a friend of mine took pics that I still have today. The thing was our gunships flew without missals only MG ammo. The Hind turned around over German airspace and did what's called a gun run on us, of course they didn't fire but we could see a full load out. Everything was being reported real time back to ops, and when we got back we were debriefed end of story. This stuff happens all the time and a lot. We only see about it in the press when someone gets carried way and tries to put steel on target.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:49 AM on 11/10/2009
- duhtruth I'm a Fan of duhtruth 13 fans permalink
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Why can't we just get along?

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:35 AM on 11/10/2009

If they had any sense they would have came along and tied up together, broke out the beer and some good Korean Liquor. Then cooked up a big feed and sat around on deck yarning about how in the big picture they are 99.999999 percent the same right down to the socks with exception to ideology that exisits no where but in the mind and perhaps scribbled on a few peices of yellow paper. And that perhaps they should get together again for a few cold ones because together they could do great things for their children and if any of the powers that be complaints then give them the finger!

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:23 AM on 11/10/2009
- Sacchinftw I'm a Fan of Sacchinftw 6 fans permalink

And then the North Korean sailors can go back home and find their full extended family on their way to one of the numerous hard labor camps and a firing squad waiting for them...

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:50 AM on 11/10/2009
- wwoody I'm a Fan of wwoody 15 fans permalink
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This is not the first time that this has happen, this has been a on going for years since 1953. And it will continue to go on. So what else is new.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:14 AM on 11/10/2009
- czs5056 I'm a Fan of czs5056 5 fans permalink

I want a good clean fight. the carpet is new so don't bleed on it. NOW LETS GET ON!!!

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:13 AM on 11/10/2009
- bdaved I'm a Fan of bdaved 30 fans permalink

Keyboard courage, calling for other people to kill and die.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:51 AM on 11/10/2009
- Sacchinftw I'm a Fan of Sacchinftw 6 fans permalink

Republicans have been doing it for almost eight years now, if not more, why can't we have fun for once?

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:51 AM on 11/10/2009
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