CNN Paradox: Organization Thriving While Primetime Ratings Fall

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DAVID BAUDER | 11/11/09 08:15 PM | AP

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NEW YORK — The latest rough patch for CNN illustrates the two contradictions at the network's heart.

In a brutal time for the news business, CNN is one of the few media organizations thriving while its most visible part in the United States – prime-time on the flagship network – is hurting. The company has built its brand on nonpartisan reporting, while CNN's audience tilts Democratic as much or more as Fox News Channel's audience is Republican.

CNN's average prime-time audience was third behind Fox and MSNBC during October, and it was even eclipsed by sister network HLN among younger viewers, according to the Nielsen Co. Perhaps more ominous, CNN finished well behind Fox when big news was breaking – Election Night and the Fort Hood massacre. Big stories usually sent viewers flocking to CNN.

Prime-time success isn't a new problem in a place that has long lived and died by the news cycle, to which former hosts such as Aaron Brown, Connie Chung and Paula Zahn can attest. It seems more acute because CNN's younger rivals were faster in figuring out a way to make appointment viewing at night.

"We sometimes scratch our heads and wonder, `Why can't they figure this out?'" said former CNN correspondent Charles Bierbauer, dean of the College of Mass Communication and Information Studies at the University of South Carolina, describing his talks with another old CNN hand on his faculty.

MSNBC's Keith Olbermann, whose reruns often beat Anderson Cooper's first-run newscast on CNN, mocked his rival for trafficking in news rather than analysis at night: "CNN seems to still think it is the primary source for its viewers, that they know nothing until they tune in. This is, ever increasingly, nonsensical."

At CNN, they suggest critics take a narrow view of what it does.

The network could cast aside Cooper, Larry King and Campbell Brown for opinionated analysis and probably see its ratings go up, said Jim Walton, president of CNN Worldwide.

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The benefit for one arm of the company isn't worth the potential damage to others, he said.

CNN has built its business – encompassing international networks and wholesale news reports, mobile device services, a Web site, a wire service to print publications and radio – around the notion that it is delivering nonpartisan, straight news reporting, he said. The company has shown double-digit growth for the past few years and is on pace to continue. It invests by hiring more personnel, and this month opening a new production facility in Abu Dhabi.

"People hear what's being said and it's branded CNN and (they say), `OK, that's news. That's nonpartisan, that's factual, it's timely," Walton said. "That's what we want to deliver around the world. We compete against a lot more than Fox and MSNBC."

The rising fortunes of HLN means the company makes money off opinion, too. One of the reasons that network's name was changed from CNN Headline News was to avoid having CNN's name associated with that type of programming.

Of the flagship network's sagging fortunes, Walton said, "It matters to us. Trust me, it matters. We want all of our networks to grow their audiences. But the fact is, (CNN) is a vibrant, healthy company that's growing in an industry where we're pretty much one of one."

MSNBC's move to the left and Fox's ownership of the right would, theoretically, give CNN a wide middle to conquer. The problem is, that middle might be more inclined to watch Tom DeLay on "Dancing With the Stars" than on "Larry King Live."

Statistically, CNN's audience is far from nonpartisan.

Of people who say their main source of news is CNN, 46 percent identify themselves as Democrats and 13 percent as Republicans, according to a July survey by the Pew Research Center (the rest say they're independent or don't identify themselves politically). The same study found that Fox's main source audience was 38 percent Republican and 18 percent Democratic.

To a certain degree, it stands to reason: If so many Republicans find Fox a comfortable home, there are fewer remaining for CNN, particularly in a country where Democrats have an enrollment edge.

One-third of news viewers questioned by Pew this fall said they didn't perceive CNN as advancing an ideology, more than Fox (24 percent) or MSNBC (27 percent). Still, 37 percent of those questioned view CNN as liberal, and 11 percent as conservative.

It wasn't always this way. In a pre-Fox world, many on the right saw CNN as a good alternative to the broadcast networks, said Tim Graham, director of media analysis for the conservative Media Research Center. They loved "Crossfire," he said.

But conservatives began to identify CNN with President Bill Clinton, in part because a president is a natural time-killer for a network on 24 hours a day, he said. They believe conservative voices are weak and outnumbered on CNN.

"Could they claim to be in the middle?" Graham asked. "I think they could. I don't think they're doing it."

Liberals had regarded CNN with some suspicion because of Lou Dobbs and his anti-illegal immigration efforts, said Karl Frisch of Graham's liberal counterpart Media Matters. That was before Dobbs announced on his show Wednesday that he was leaving CNN.

What CNN needs is to find a way to bring the passion to stories that its rivals bring to arguments, said Frank Sesno, a former CNN Washington bureau chief and now professor at George Washington University.

"Will people sit down in the evening and find news reporting interesting?" Walton asked. "That's the question, really."

CNN is still searching for the answer.

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CNN is owned by Time Warner Inc.

MSNBC is owned by NBC Universal.

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EDITOR'S NOTE – David Bauder can be reached at dbauder"at"ap.org

NEW YORK — The latest rough patch for CNN illustrates the two contradictions at the network's heart. In a brutal time for the news business, CNN is one of the few media organizations thriving w...
NEW YORK — The latest rough patch for CNN illustrates the two contradictions at the network's heart. In a brutal time for the news business, CNN is one of the few media organizations thriving w...
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Christmas came early for me and I am elated Lou Dobbs is gone. I remember watching his show one day and hearing him ask Wolf "If Obama wins what is going to happen to us old white guys?" I couldn't believe it! Campbell Brown, Wolf, Anderson, and King need to be next on the list if CNN wants their ratings to improve.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:53 PM on 11/12/2009
- MThomasNC I'm a Fan of MThomasNC 8 fans permalink

CNN is a joke, a Fox wanna be. I look at it from 4 pm to 6 pm because I can't stomach Fox at all and can't stomach Chris Matthews. I faithfully watch Ed, Keith, Rachel - the progressives.
CNN under Ted Turner was masterful. Under TimeWarner, CNN swung to the right and doing Bush43 parroted everything right-wingers said as gospel. Yes, they may be making money in their other businesses around the world but presenting the unbiased news to America they fall short trying to imitate Fox.
Bring TedTurner creative juices back and get on track again.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:36 PM on 11/12/2009

A couple of points about this article:
Bauder says: "Statistically, CNN's audience is far from nonpartisan."
Pew research poll shows:
Rep Dem
Fox 35 21
CNN 19 28
FAR more nonpartisan? If the Fox stats indicate that Fox is biased, how is it that a really fairly similar set of stats from CNN favoring dems means nothing? Seems like the stats matter to Mr. Bauder only if they favor his ideology.

Bauder says: "MSNBC's move to the left and Fox's ownership of the right would, theoretically, give CNN a wide middle to conquer"
I think liberals like Bauder don't understand the "middle". Both sides have problems with the "middle".
How do you define the "middle"? I think both sides believe the "middle" is simply people who identify in gerneral with the other party, but have belief's closer to the their own party. It's a sort of wishful thinking that the middle is really on their side.
Also, can it even be considered that perhaps the vast "middle, middle/right" is really the majority vew in this country, and since Fox is more aligned with it that it is more popular?
My point is that many will simply not accept the possibility that Fox News is more in touch with the vast majority of Americans than CNN or MSNBC.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:17 PM on 11/12/2009
- dubster I'm a Fan of dubster 9 fans permalink

CNN is such a joke. Any astute political observer can tell you that. That includes their whole cast everyone from the lauded Cooper Anderson, to the very atrocious John King, Blitzer, and don't get me started on Cambell Brown. And of course the given Lou Dobbs the ultraconservative who infiltrated CNN. All of their pundits are incredibly weak political analysts. And they don't even do a good job at reporting the news, nevermind the opinion segments.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:04 PM on 11/12/2009

I think they can give Cafferty a bigger role. He seems to make sense when he speaks

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:37 AM on 11/12/2009
- bertha112 I'm a Fan of bertha112 2 fans permalink
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Good suggestion. I'd also like to see Christiane (sp?) in prime time.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:01 AM on 11/12/2009

Oh and it is obvious John King doesn't like the president. Nothing against not always agreeing with the president but everything the president does good, there is a "But the conservaties" coming out of his mouth

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:35 AM on 11/12/2009

Yeah, and i can't stand Wolfe Blitzer or Campbell Brown and someone has scared David Gergen. He is scared to be liberal anymore

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:32 AM on 11/12/2009

I think where CNN fails is Fox is on the air getting conservaties all rialed up and MSNBC is doing the same with liberals. CNN is trying to play the man in the middle and it is killing them right now. It is like voting for an Independent in an election when it is obvious a dem or repub is going to win. Like wasting votes. I still watch CNN because i don't like the spin the other news affiliates put on their news. I am sure CNN will be back. Getting rid of Lou is a good first step.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:28 AM on 11/12/2009
- Diplomacy I'm a Fan of Diplomacy 9 fans permalink

Still searching?

Well, just look at the daily prime-time line-up. 3 hours of torture with the "Blitzer, then the bigot Lou Dobbs (who's gone at last), then comes "All Bias All Bull" with Campbell Brown, then "Has Been" Larry King & then that "joke" Anderson Cooper with a "repeater" hour no less.

Used to be an avid CNN watcher, until the Election Campaign 2008, and caught on to them. CNN's viewers are Democrats but CNN's content is anything but Liberal, and certainly isn't "middle of the road". The only show on CNN worth watching is FAREED ZACHARIA on Sunday.

CNN needs to go truly "unbiased" if they ever want to regain the viewership they once had.

And, how about a little "diversity" in the Prime Time slots?

Roland Martin would have been great in the 8 PM slot while Campbell Brown was away, but they crowded him out with that "air-head" panel every night, so stopped watching. Guess CNN was afraid Roland would get too popular & bump Campbell off the air.

CNN needs to clean house & LOU DOBBS is just the start.

Used to watch Aaron Brown faithfully every night. What ever happened to him?

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:28 AM on 11/12/2009
- CaliTLC I'm a Fan of CaliTLC 72 fans permalink
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Getting rid of Mr. Soft Lens is a good start. Larry King's better days are behind him as well. (IMHO)

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:24 AM on 11/12/2009
- FarOutFish I'm a Fan of FarOutFish 9 fans permalink

It is unfortunate that shouting and partisanship bring better ratings than straight news. What is good for ratings is a disaster for democracy.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:47 PM on 11/11/2009
- escribacat I'm a Fan of escribacat 285 fans permalink
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Larry King is one guy I really can't stand.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:37 PM on 11/11/2009
- Debru I'm a Fan of Debru 12 fans permalink
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Maybe once the audience tilted Democratic, but I bet that's not so anymore. It's pretty obvious CNN is envious of Fox's ratings and is trying to appeal to that demo. This is exactly why I, and many others, have quit watching it.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:17 PM on 11/11/2009
- kyeshinka I'm a Fan of kyeshinka 21 fans permalink

CNN's demographic tilts to the left? Well some on the left haven't taken the hint yet that CNN is just awful. Who gets any news from this network after the yelling, arguing, bogus statistics, unreliable sources, taking sides in international conflicts, failure to confront guests who mislead the viewers, and shallow analysis? Watch CNN for five hours and you know less about the world than 10 minutes of Jim Lehrer. It's entertainment, most of us understand that and that's why the ratings are down. Conservatives don't know they're being played for suckers and that's why Fox's ratings are high. CNN is "liberal" only because they don't hate Obama like Fox does. Otherwise it's pretty much the same.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:34 PM on 11/11/2009
- mizerello I'm a Fan of mizerello 35 fans permalink

How anyone can claim that CNN is liberal is beyond me. I guess if you're comparing it to FOX, then yes, it's liberal. John King rarely interviews Democrats and if he does, is much harder on them than on his multitude of Republican guests. Blitzer is both pro-Republican and pro-Israel and I blame him in large part for the Iraq War. He spent months before the war, basically promoting the previous administration's war effort with a program devoted solely to that cause. Dobbs, spent his entire hour castigating liberals. Even their so-called basic news anchors--Heidi Collins, Kyra Phillips, Tony Harris--all show their conservative bent with the way they interview guests and frame stories. Collins almost sneers when she reports on anything related to President Obama. Kyra Phillips positively glows when she does any reports about the military...and what about ol' Barbara at the Pentagon. This "CNN is the only real mainstream news provider in cable news" rhetoric is equal to the "Republicans are fiscal conservatives."

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:49 PM on 11/11/2009
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