Byron Dorgan's Financial Plan: Common Sense From The Senator Who Saw This Coming

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First Posted: 11-12-09 02:02 PM   |   Updated: 11-12-09 03:37 PM

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He got it right last time.

Senator Byron Dorgan, Democrat of North Dakota, was one of eight senators who stood up to oppose the repeal of the Glass-Steagall act in 1999. That repeal, which was signed into law by President Clinton exactly 10 years ago today, broke down the barriers between commercial banking and investment banking, and led to the growth of behemoth financial firms that were able to take enormous risks with impunity, because they were "too big to fail."

"I think we will in 10 years' time look back and say we should not have done this," Dorgan said back then. The video of his speech has become something of a cult favorite for wonks -- ten years, a $700 billion bailout and a major financial crisis later.

Washington has an odd habit of listening to the people who consistently get such things wrong, and ignoring the ones who get them right.

So today, on this solemn anniversary, how about listening to this guy? What does he think we should do now?

"Three things," the senator told me in an interview. "One is to separate investment banks and FDIC-insured banks. Second, prohibit FDIC-insured banks from dealing in risky financial instruments on their own proprietary accounts... And third, abolish 'too big to fail.' If you're too big to fail, you're too big. Too big to fail is what I call no-fault capitalism."

All in all, it's a much more forceful agenda than his party leaders -- including his president -- are advocating.

Why isn't the administration at his side? "You'd have to address that question to the administration," Dorgan said. He did, however, express disappointment. "I would like to see them more aggressive on this issue."

But he's still hopeful. "We don't have any bill on the floor of the House or the Senate to evaluate," said Dorgan, who is not on the Senate's Finance Committee. "My hope is that we'll get a piece of legislation that will restore that separation."

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Dorgan said he hasn't yet taken a position on the administration's proposed Consumer Finance Protection Agency, but "clearly there needs to be consumer protection. The question is how."

Also, he said, "I think you have to regulate hedge funds... You have to have transparency on these financial instruments."

And then there's the whole issue of accountability. "It's one of the most frustrating things," Dorgan said. "We essentially have had modern-day bank robbers -- except that they wore gray suits and not masks -- and there's been no accountability for it."

Dorgan has repeatedly called -- fruitlessly -- for a federal task force to investigate and establish accountability for the crisis. What's needed, he said, is an agreed-upon "master narrative" for the story -- and then prosecution of any criminal activity.

Dorgan, who is finishing up his third term in the Senate, is also an author. His latest book, published in May, is titled: "Reckless! How Debt, Deregulation and Dark Money Nearly Bankrupted America and How We Can Fix It".

In it, he writes about the government's obligation to right the tilted playing field of modern free-market capitalism, which currently favors the major players over regular folk. He writes:

Every day we see energy speculators, war profiteers, managed health-care providers, media propagandists, and/or financiers given some unfair advantage over the average consumers and taxpayers, and the cumulative effect of the American people watching selfishness prevail over the public interest has been an undermining of the public's trust in government.


This "anything goes" approach to capitalism has injured the very economy we have aspired to create. It is a philosophy that corporations and markets can be counted on to police themselves....

I'm a big fan of the free-market system. I don't know of any better method of allocating the goods and services. But in a free- market economy it is not unusual to see the big interests pitted against the little guy. When they are allowed to run unchecked or to rig the system, the big interests have the potential to drag down the very economy they need to remain stable and healthy. That is why it is so important we fight for a new era of reform and change to put our country back on track -- giving working people and small businesses the voice and the power to make the changes necessary.

This is not about a liberal or conservative philosophy. It is about making sure our economy and the free-market system work for everybody.

"There's no question the system is rigged against the little guy," Dorgan told me. "The bigger interests have a lot more information. They jerry-rig the system so that they always win."

"I think that has to be one of the lessons that comes out of this experience," he said, noting that it's been "one of the most expensive lessons in the history of our country."

As for what motivated him back in 1999, Dorgan said: "I just felt that merging the risks of investment banks with FDIC-insured banks was going to cause very expensive problems for the taxpayers of the country. And it turns out that's exactly what happened."

WATCH:

Here's Dylan Ratigan "celebrating" the 10th birthday of the Glass-Steagall repeal.

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He got it right last time. Senator Byron Dorgan, Democrat of North Dakota, was one of eight senators who stood up to oppose the repeal of the Glass-Steagall act in 1999. That repeal, which was signed...
He got it right last time. Senator Byron Dorgan, Democrat of North Dakota, was one of eight senators who stood up to oppose the repeal of the Glass-Steagall act in 1999. That repeal, which was signed...
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Thank you Senator Dorgan. Thank you, Dan, for an excellent piece of reportage, as always. And thank you, HuffPo, for giving Dan an outlet for his excellent, nay, superlative, as always, work.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:57 PM on 11/16/2009
- veracity I'm a Fan of veracity 67 fans permalink

compliments to HuffPost:

despite lurking on these pages for far too long (LLLoL) I stumbled on this, very! excellent Dan Froomkin story over at Zerohedge.

UNFORTUNATELY, the fact that one of the most fiscally "conservative" & financially respected US (Democratic) Senators can say-

< Dorgan has repeatedly called -- fruitlessly -- for a FEDERAL TASK FORCE to INVESTIGATE & ESTABLISH ACCOUNTABILITY for the crisis. >

< And then there's the whole issue of accountability. "It's one of the most frustrating things," Dorgan said. "We essentially have had ____MODERN-DAY BANK ROBBERS____ -- except they wore gray suits & not masks -- and there's been no accountability for it." >

If a respected senator, a popular "Liberal" news site, and a respected finanical website can ALL ask the same question -

"WHERE are the INVESTIGATIONS, & WHERE is the ACCOUNTABILITY?"

- well, ya just gotta wonder, "WHERE IS THE CHIEF EXECUTIVE in all this... IS HE ON THE SIDE of the 'MODERN-DAY BANK ROBBERS,' or is he on the side of the families and communities VICTIMIZED by the manufactured crisis?"

(unfortunately, as anyone with two working neurons knows, here's the answer, from that ZeroHedge page:

< Alas, Obama is now stuck...... COURTESY of HIS ECONOMIC THINK TANK, he CAN NOT leave the status quo as the current situation leaves the economy on an untenable course of 12%+ unemployment. >
[but neither will he be able to pass another TOO-LITTLE, TOO-LATE stimulus, either]
http://www.zerohedge.com/article/goldman-why-second-stimulus-merely-months-away

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:36 PM on 11/13/2009
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I also like that he has such bold proposals as

"fight for a new era of reform and change to put our country back on track" and "[give] working people and small businesses the voice and the power to make the changes necessary. "

This is rhetoric utterly devoid of any practical meaning... and it's so popular! I guess that's why you see so much of it.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:47 PM on 11/13/2009
- niblik I'm a Fan of niblik 21 fans permalink

Yeah, I got really tired of hearing "It's morning in America!" and folks touting their "Contract with America".

That ended up being a lot of hot air in the end.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:21 PM on 11/13/2009
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It's funny to see people bemoaning how they were taken in by vague promises from Obama and agreeing with others who say Dorgan should now be president. What exactly has he proposed here?

"One is to separate investment banks and FDIC-insured banks. Second, prohibit FDIC-insured banks from dealing in risky financial instruments on their own proprietary accounts... And third, abolish 'too big to fail.' If you're too big to fail, you're too big. Too big to fail is what I call no-fault capitalism."

Without defining exactly what 'risky' means, not to mention what 'too big' means, his statement doesn't mean anything. If he did have to get into the nuts and bolts of the process he'd be villified just like the people who are trying to do that job right now. Barney Frank, Paul Volcker, Sheila Bair, Tim Geithner, Ben Bernanke and Elizabeth Warren are the adults trying to answer the questions his 'plan' implies.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:45 PM on 11/13/2009
- jeremiahos I'm a Fan of jeremiahos 9 fans permalink
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I think what he wants to do is restore what Gramm-Leach-Bliley took away.
And add more regulation into the mix that makes them NOT want to do it again.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:00 AM on 11/14/2009
- wavydavy I'm a Fan of wavydavy 2 fans permalink

As the French say: Plus ça change, plus c'est le même chose.

Said Woody Guthrie, roughly 70 years ago:

* Yes, as through this world I've wandered
* I've seen lots of funny men;
* Some will rob you with a six-gun,
* And some with a fountain pen.

When will we ever learn?

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:29 PM on 11/13/2009
- research I'm a Fan of research 248 fans permalink

You got it.

How about you team up with Krugman, and Kucinich?

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:16 PM on 11/13/2009
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This is a good man. However I want to stress that what he is proposing is a separation of 'FDIC insured banks" and Investment banking. His other 2 recommendations are not only sound but capable of being implemented by the Q1 2010! I think glass steagal was a horrible mistake that let to problems that exasperated the depression. But I do agree that FDIC insured banks should be tightly reined in. A better option is to dump the FDIC and allow the private sector to handle it. But since this will never happen, Senator Dorgan.. You Have the floor:) We all know that the Rubin/Gree­nspan/Summ­er trinity architected this nonsense. Funny how one of them is Obama's top economic advisor. It's not the best solution but definitely a sounder one. I say follow the Ron Paul doctrine but this is an adequate start...for now until 2012 arrives. Ron Paul 2012!

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:34 PM on 11/13/2009
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Dump the FDIC and let the private sector handle it. Hmm. Where do you think FDIC funds come from?

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:39 PM on 11/13/2009
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Dorgan for president in 2012. We need some common sense in the white house.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:05 PM on 11/13/2009
- jeremiahos I'm a Fan of jeremiahos 9 fans permalink
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I think Dorgan could actually give Obama a really good run for his money.
He has this modern-day FDR appeal that the President will never be able to achieve.

Not with present company, at least.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:05 AM on 11/14/2009
- US1st2009 I'm a Fan of US1st2009 4 fans permalink

dick fuld received nearly half a billion dollars in total compensation from 1993 to 2007 to obliterate 158 year old lehman brothers. these banksters get away with billions in their personal accounts and therefore the best justice money can buy. we need a revolution in justice in the US!

geithner and all of goldman need to be completely investigated and prosecuted for financial terrorism along with fuld, rubin, summers, bernanke, dimon, speyer, stephen friedman, prince, weill, chais, picower... They all KNOW the public will forget via the sunami of cascading information that no common person can process. not to mention they own or finance most of the major media outlets.

some of us have been screaming about this for years but the public prefers to keep their heads in the sand and hope it will all blow away.

as a critical pin-hole view into the world of NY finance manipulating our congress, administration, tax dollars and economy to their personal benefit read the 4/26/09 NY Times article "Geithner, Member and Overseer of Finance Club" By JO BECKER and GRETCHEN MORGENSON and the accompanying graphic "Mr. Geithner’s World."

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/27/business/27geithner.html?_r=1&em=&pagewanted=all

it's about time we all face up to facts and quit being cowed sheep. this is OUR country and OUR tax dollars being stolen in the greatest redistribution of wealth in history; UPWARD to the wealthiest few.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:41 AM on 11/13/2009
- greyhound2 I'm a Fan of greyhound2 9 fans permalink

I can't imagine anybody who couldn't do well by taking other people's money and going to the Casino where they get to keep the money if they win and pass the losses off to the taxpayers if they loose.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:19 AM on 11/13/2009
- HamletsMill I'm a Fan of HamletsMill 231 fans permalink
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Yep. ou git it. That is EXACTLY the system now!

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:49 PM on 11/13/2009
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I always admired Dorgan. He struck me as one of the very few genuine politicians in all of Washington.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:12 AM on 11/13/2009
- jimme I'm a Fan of jimme 8 fans permalink

You beat me to it. I've seen him a few times on CSPAN and I think the same thing. He always seems honest/moral and doesn't resort to scare-tactics or accusational rantings to make a point.
He was warning about the profiteers from the war years ago. I would like to see his name mentioned when the 2012 Prez race starts.

He's the REAL Mr. Smith from the famous movie with Jimmy Stewart.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:57 AM on 11/13/2009
- cartunes I'm a Fan of cartunes 3 fans permalink
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OK, SO IT WASN'T JORGE BUSH. This keeps on getting more interesting by the minute.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:00 AM on 11/13/2009
- chedet I'm a Fan of chedet 26 fans permalink
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no it already started with reagan and just getting worse after that.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:25 PM on 11/13/2009
- evekendall I'm a Fan of evekendall 122 fans permalink
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It started under Reagan and continued with Clinton doing the bidding of Republicans.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:54 PM on 11/13/2009
- katooom I'm a Fan of katooom 18 fans permalink
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What is wrong with our system? This is crazy. Well we NEVER learn?

The last president was a dolt who would follow donald duck's advice. But O is supposed to be a pretty bright guy. Yet he cannot make a decision, and when he does, it seems just to follow along the same old path started by the previous dolt and entrenched, corrupt advisers.

This is not good.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:43 AM on 11/13/2009
- AAKAlan I'm a Fan of AAKAlan 55 fans permalink

Apparently not. I fear that America is suicidal.

We (including me) believe anything we're told during a campaign, even though experience has taught us that we shouldn't.

This campaigner was particularly good at "sincerity". I know I was fully taken in. I bought into "hope", I bought into "change" and, like the rest of us, got stuck with Summers, Geithner and Emannuel.

I don't see much change, and I certainly no longer have much hope.

Fanned.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:48 AM on 11/13/2009
- evekendall I'm a Fan of evekendall 122 fans permalink
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No, it is not good.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:50 PM on 11/13/2009
- HamletsMill I'm a Fan of HamletsMill 231 fans permalink
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Indeed.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:55 PM on 11/13/2009

When laws and secret banks exist the money will move or they hide it in plain view like JP Morgan and Goldman Sachs.

We have 5 banks that created 600+ Trillion dollars of counterfeit money and hold over 200 Trillion here in the US and no one want to address this scam of derivatives.

Check out page 23 of each of these reports and see the Funny Money of these Banks

Office of the Comptroller of the Currency
http://www.occ.gov/deriv/deriv.htm

Goldman just bought 40Trillion dollars of this junk and is betting the administration will make an exchange to trade it like it is real money.

How did the banks create 800 trillion world wide when it 1999 we only had 36trillion of this junk and 1995 it was half or that. It seems no one wants to address how this money was created.

The Dollar value is at an all time low, because our banks created counterfeit money.

The Federal Reserve may hold answers to these questions but no one will demand full disclosure or an audit of the Fed.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:02 AM on 11/13/2009

but there are people demanding an audit of the Fed...Ron Paul for one

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:00 AM on 11/13/2009
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The dollar is low because stocks are up. The dollar is also moving with the Euro and the Yen consistently. If you believe that increasing the money supply leads directly to invlation, then you must believe that the dollar is tied more to Zimbabwe's dollar than either the Yen our the Euro. How can you still believe in that simplistic view of inflation when reality has been contradicting you all year?

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:37 PM on 11/13/2009
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Dorgan for President.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:31 AM on 11/13/2009
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Amen! At least make him head of the Senate!

http://www.squidoo.com/debbie-wasserman-schultz

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:21 AM on 11/13/2009
- chedet I'm a Fan of chedet 26 fans permalink
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yeah better than reid.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:25 PM on 11/13/2009
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