North Korea Threatens South After Naval Clash

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First Posted: 11-12-09 02:25 PM   |   Updated: 11-12-09 03:50 PM

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SEOUL, South Korea (Associated Press) -- North Korea threatened to punish South Korea following their brief-but-bloody naval firefight, though analysts said Thursday that chances of retaliation appeared slim ahead of planned talks between the U.S. and Pyongyang.

Tuesday's battle near the disputed western sea border left one North Korean officer dead and three others wounded, according to a senior South Korean military officer. Both sides have accused the other of provoking the two-minute battle and Pyongyang has threatened consequences.

"Warmongers will be forced to pay a costly price," the North's main Rodong Sinmun newspaper said Thursday in a commentary carried by the official Korean Central News Agency. "We never utter empty words."

A North Korean navy patrol vessel is believed to have been towed by another North Korean ship to a nearby base after South Korean ships fired some 4,950 rounds, said an official with Seoul's Joint Chiefs of Staff. He asked not to be identified because of the issue's sensitivity.

Yang Moo-jin, a professor at Seoul's University of North Korean Studies, downplayed the significance of the North's threats, saying they were carried in newspaper commentaries rather than in government or military statements - which carry more weight.

The North's military issued a statement Tuesday blaming the South for the clash but has not made any threat or mention of retaliation itself.

Analysts believe a planned trip to Pyongyang by a U.S. official would make it difficult for Pyongyang to take retaliatory steps against the South anytime soon.
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President Barack Obama, due to arrive in Seoul on Nov. 18 amid a regional tour, plans to send special envoy Stephen Bosworth to Pyongyang by year's end for the first direct talks with the North during his administration.

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Bosworth's trip is aimed at persuading communist North Korea to return to six-nation nuclear disarmament negotiations, which Pyongyang walked away from earlier this year.

The North has long demanded one-on-one talks with the United States before committing to the stalled talks on ending its nuclear programs. The talks also include South Korea, China, Russia and Japan, and were last held in Beijing in December.

Jeung Young-tae, a North Korea expert at the government-funded Korea Institute for National Unification, said that while some kind of retaliation is possible, North Korean leader Kim Jong Il would have little to gain from doing so.

"Any escalation of the situation would not be in the interest of the Kim Jong Il regime at a time when the North is focusing on dialogue with the U.S.," he said.

Paik Hak-soon, an analyst at the private Sejong Institute think tank near Seoul, said it is hard to believe that Pyongyang would retaliate when it is seeking to improve its relations with both South Korea and the U.S.

Officials in Seoul shrugged off the North's threats, saying they can deter any aggression and will defend the disputed sea border - known as the Northern Limit Line - where the clash took place.

The line is a de facto western sea border drawn up by the U.N. command at the end of the 1950-53 Korean War. The North has long insisted it be redrawn farther south.

The Defense Ministry said Thursday that it plans to hold a meeting of top military commanders next month to review South Korea's defenses.

The battle, which South Korea's military has hailed as a victory, highlighted the wide gap in hardware between the two sides. The North Korean ship was built by China in the 1960s, the Chosun Ilbo newspaper reported.

Following the skirmish, the South's 680,000-member military went on high alert to cope with possible retaliation. South Korean media reported the country has deployed up to four destroyers and warships near the sea border - the scene of two bloody fights in 1999 and 2002.

South Korea's military said there has been no sign of suspicious military activity from North Korean troops, but news reports said the North has also placed its 1.2 million-strong army on high alert.

The two Koreas have remained technically at war since the Korean War ended with an armistice, not a peace treaty. The U.S., which has never had diplomatic relations with North Korea, stations 28,500 troops in South Korea to deter potential North Korean aggression.

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Associated Press Writer Hyung-jin Kim contributed to this report.

SEOUL, South Korea (Associated Press) -- North Korea threatened to punish South Korea following their brief-but-bloody naval firefight, though analysts said Thursday that chances of retaliation appear...
SEOUL, South Korea (Associated Press) -- North Korea threatened to punish South Korea following their brief-but-bloody naval firefight, though analysts said Thursday that chances of retaliation appear...
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"We never utter empty words."

LMAO!

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:18 AM on 11/13/2009
- changeself I'm a Fan of changeself 50 fans permalink

from 1945 (the end of the pacific war) up to 1950 ( the korean war),

when the US army occupied south korea,

there were thousands of massacres of civilians

by the Korean military, police, and vigilantees as well as by the US army,

and the korean truth commission has confirmed 1222 mass graves so far,

only 12 of which were perpetrated by the lefties (communists and socialists).

the current right-wing government rode the reactionary facist resistance to the commision's work

and will terminate the commision next year.

now connect the dots.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:11 AM on 11/13/2009
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Hǔffington Post is full of bloodthiяsty moпsters.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:10 AM on 11/13/2009
- dogman44 I'm a Fan of dogman44 46 fans permalink

North Korea is like a small child that throws tantrums to get its way. It's getting kind of
old. If their performance in this short skirmish is any indication of their military prowess,
things do not bode well for NK should they carry out their threats and attack the south.
The ROKs are tough. I have seen them in action. They are merciless to their enemy.
Only thing I don't understand about this is how the ROKS managed to put out almost
5,000 rounds and only managed to hit 4 people and and not sink the NK vessel.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:28 AM on 11/13/2009
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You would think the fact that only one death occurred after 4,950 rounds were fired wouldn't bode well for South Korea's military either... you would think.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:59 AM on 11/13/2009
- dogman44 I'm a Fan of dogman44 46 fans permalink

I'm wondering what the size and construction material of the NK ship was.
What type of weapons were all those rounds coming from?
How many vessels were involved?
Did the NK vessel return fire?
Did they hit anything?
Not enough information in the story to form a solid opinion about what
actually happened.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:43 AM on 11/13/2009
- FHTB I'm a Fan of FHTB 69 fans permalink
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War mongers will be forced to pay a heavy price...hm­mm...meeti­ng belligerence with belligerence? The North as usual blusters and blathers.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:20 AM on 11/13/2009
- MillinMn I'm a Fan of MillinMn 41 fans permalink
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Dear Leader Kim Jong il was probably trying to demonstrate he is still tough to his military and civilian leadership. Too bad the incident - if initial reports are to be trusted - suggests otherwise. Of course in the North a great naval victory will be declared.

North Korea is a country Bush should have ignored, rather than elevated by this "axis of evil" construction. Bush empowered Iran, Iraq and North Korea to irritate the US way beyond their strategic importance by that foolish pronouncement.

Perhaps the neocons really though that they could bully all three into submission to the US with their bluster and sabre-rattling. In retrospect, Clinton was better at containing each of those minor powers with his containment approaches.

Hope Mr. Obama doesn't fall into that same foolishness

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:50 AM on 11/13/2009
- MajorKong I'm a Fan of MajorKong 383 fans permalink
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Standard DPRK boilerplate. Usually they throw in something about turning South Korea into a "sea of fire".

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:02 PM on 11/12/2009
- Andman0121 I'm a Fan of Andman0121 22 fans permalink

PFT, please. If the North Koreans invaded the south the US would intervene and blast their a##es back to the stone age. Go ahead!

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:03 PM on 11/12/2009
- MillinMn I'm a Fan of MillinMn 41 fans permalink
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If that conflict turns hot, it will be terribly bloody for the Koreans. Much of the South's population is in range of the North's artillery, which is old-school but a very real and dangerous threat.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:54 AM on 11/13/2009
- dogman44 I'm a Fan of dogman44 46 fans permalink

I've never been to Seoul, the main target under the north's artillery umbrella.
But I bet they have shelters everywhere. They know what is pointed at them..
We also have air superiority. Artillery has to be exposed to be used. In the
old days they would hide the guns under nets That no longer works. Air power
is an awesome force these days. They might drop a few rounds into Seoul.
And then all the hurt in the world would descend on them. I'm sure there are
always aircraft in the sky or close by and ready to fly in that area.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:08 AM on 11/13/2009
- FHTB I'm a Fan of FHTB 69 fans permalink
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You can be certain of that, and frankly it would be more than deserved...but this is, as others have said, is standard North rhetoric and propaganda­...mindles­s rants from a hopeless regime.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:22 AM on 11/13/2009
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Fucķ yeah! Let's murdër some MORE devastatingly poor people! Ooh Rah!

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:03 AM on 11/13/2009
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I mean, you DO realize that the citizens of NK are extremely oppressed and horribly mistreated right? Direct your disturbing jingoistic outrage at Kim Jong Il, not his oppressed subjects.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:05 AM on 11/13/2009
- Balzac I'm a Fan of Balzac 119 fans permalink
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Why don't they build a re-unification temple right smack in the middle of the zone that separates these two half nations?

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:34 PM on 11/12/2009
- MillinMn I'm a Fan of MillinMn 41 fans permalink
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too many landmines

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:51 AM on 11/13/2009
- Dr Scott I'm a Fan of Dr Scott 24 fans permalink
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Seriously, we have greatly exaggerated the threat that North Korea poses to its neighbors and us. The North has a chance to start a shooting war with the South and instead ran away with their tails tucked between their legs. Then more empty rhetoric. This tells me that they got nothing. I say ignore them or lean into them.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:33 PM on 11/12/2009
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Exactly the SK ship nearly destroyed the NK ship. They turned and ran home!

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:57 PM on 11/12/2009
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4,950 rounds.... "nearly destroyed".... pathetic.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:06 AM on 11/13/2009
- Dham4201 I'm a Fan of Dham4201 5 fans permalink
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Exactly...the north's hardware is NOTHING compared to the DPRK...and even less so compared to the US's....the South could likely win a war against the north single handed.

The north has had several chances to start a conflict and have abstained both times, not going to happen any time soon unless Kim truly goes off his rocker (if hes even still alive)

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:55 PM on 11/12/2009
- MajorKong I'm a Fan of MajorKong 383 fans permalink
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Note - The North IS the DPRK (Democratic People's Republic of Korea).

The South is the ROK (Republic of Korea).

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:04 PM on 11/12/2009
- changeself I'm a Fan of changeself 50 fans permalink

the current south korean government is comprised of the military-c­orporatist facists left over from the previous military dictatorial regimes.

they are resorting to their usual fear-mongering and war-mongering

in order to maintain their grip on power

as they are expected to lose the next election in a landslide.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:29 PM on 11/12/2009
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Didn't know the North had a republican party.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:55 PM on 11/12/2009
- changeself I'm a Fan of changeself 50 fans permalink

you believe santa clause and tooth faries, right?

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:05 AM on 11/13/2009
- czs5056 I'm a Fan of czs5056 5 fans permalink

as much as this come as a shock to you not every conservative government (most but not all) are NOT blood thirsty monsters who will kill everything in their path for treasure.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:03 AM on 11/13/2009
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(making open-mouth­/close-mou­th hand-signals at North Korea's empty rhetoric)

yawn....so­....when'r­e they gonna launch another taepodong-2 or jail some foreign reporters?

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:59 PM on 11/12/2009
- Paulo1 I'm a Fan of Paulo1 41 fans permalink

In waters where the Yamato, Musashi and Amagi once sailed they are calling shots from those toy boats naval battles? For shame.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:41 PM on 11/12/2009

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