Rich Buying Again, But Middle Class Still Hurting

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EMILY FREDRIX | 11/13/09 10:43 PM | AP

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American shoppers are splitting again: The affluent are finally starting to buy, picking up designer clothes at places like Nordstrom, while those on the lower economic rungs are still scrimping by, heading to Walmart for the basics.

Recent earnings reports from major retailers suggest that the wealthy, who pulled back their spending the hardest during the financial meltdown last fall, are once again being enticed to open their wallets and going back to higher-end outlets.

"It's a good sign, but we don't see the same across the board," said Richard Hastings, a consumer strategist with Global Hunter Securities LLC.

It's still a far cry from the era of conspicuous consumption. No matter the tax bracket, people are still focused on value and trying to avoid overspending – whatever that might mean to them.

Luxury chains like Nordstrom Inc. and Bloomingdale's, owned by Macy's Inc., say shoppers are spending again on items like shoes and dresses, but still shopping for lower prices and classic pieces that get a lot of use.

On the other hand, discounters like Wal-Mart Stores Inc. are lowering prices even further to coax their less-well-off shoppers to keep spending. And it's not on anything glamorous. We're talking basics, like food and socks.

Think of it as two different groups as the economy recovers – spenders and savers.

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THE SPENDERS

Luxury department stores like Nordstrom and Saks are starting to get more traffic. Part of the reason is that they've rolled out some merchandise at slightly lower prices, which is helping to keep the affluent from trading down to other stores.

"If they do spend, it's very scrutinized and it's very value-driven," said luxury retail analyst Robert Burke. "And they want items they can wear multiple places."

Other expensive stores like Abercrombie & Fitch are taking the lesson. The preppy clothing seller said Friday it will offer some lower-priced basics and stock up on denim early next year.

Nordstrom's third-quarter profit rose as sales improved compared with last year. Of course, last year marked a sharp drop in luxury spending as the financial crisis deepened.

Shoppers like Patricia Murnane show what's still changed. The 47-year-old risk manager from New York was shopping for black dress slacks Friday at a Nordstrom in Chicago.

She says she goes to more stores now to make sure she's getting the best price. "I used to consider shopping entertainment, but now I don't think it's entertainment," she said.

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THE SAVERS

Middle-class and poorer shoppers are still clutching their wallets and focusing on basics, even as they start to venture out to stores more.

Kohl's, a chain of midrange department stores, said more customers came into its stores in the third quarter and made more purchases, but they're still limiting their spending.

Its shoppers are on a mission for a set list of items and not straying, CEO Kevin Mansell said.

"We're not able to convince them to buy that extra thing," he told The Associated Press.

Faced with slower sales, J.C. Penney Co. has cut its inventory so it doesn't have to rely on as much discounting. Sales were still weak as its shoppers continued to worry about job security and tight credit.

Walmart continues to benefit from higher customer traffic as it aggressively discounts everything from electronics to food. But its sales at stores open at least a year slipped for the second straight quarter as shoppers spent less.

Walmart noted more pronounced swings in spending between paycheck cycles – a sign that people have little extra to spend.

That makes sense because Walmart customers who earn the least money are among the economy's hardest-hit as unemployment tops 10 percent and gas prices edge upward, said Hastings, the consumer strategist.

"The lower-income Walmart shopper, they start to become poorer than usual, and they'll really start to lag behind," he said.

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AP Retail Writer Ashley M. Heher contributed to this report from Chicago.

American shoppers are splitting again: The affluent are finally starting to buy, picking up designer clothes at places like Nordstrom, while those on the lower economic rungs are still scrimping by, h...
American shoppers are splitting again: The affluent are finally starting to buy, picking up designer clothes at places like Nordstrom, while those on the lower economic rungs are still scrimping by, h...
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Twenty five million Americans are out of work. That's a lot of spending power mostly lost.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:19 PM on 11/15/2009

There wont be any positive change for middle and lower class form the Obammi administration. Expect more of the same BS that was 2002-2007. More bonuses for wall street, surging stock market, booming economy, widening wealth gap, surging gas, surging food, unfordable education & health care & surging oil prices, continuation of Iraq/Afghanistan wars, and high unemployment.

hat tip to; http://financeopinionss.blogspot.com

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:26 PM on 11/15/2009
- Patriot86 I'm a Fan of Patriot86 33 fans permalink

Well considering it was Bush who caused this and gave out Tarp...I think you have nerve to post this.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:29 AM on 11/16/2009
- Indon I'm a Fan of Indon 12 fans permalink

Apparently, "Ownership Society" was never meant to be a single thing at all - instead, the phrase represents two mutually exclusive options: You either have ownership, or you're a part of society.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:09 AM on 11/15/2009
- jojony I'm a Fan of jojony 2 fans permalink

I prefer Saks over Nordstrom.

Nordstrom doesnt have much of a mens section.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:53 AM on 11/15/2009
- weebils I'm a Fan of weebils 89 fans permalink

Well, the middle class voted twice for Reagan and twice for Bush. Both believed in enabling the rich. What's the problem? People are just getting what they voted for or in most cases they sat home and didn't vote. When we have a 90% or higher voter turnout and people take an interest in their government then I will feel more sympathy.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:01 AM on 11/15/2009
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The middle class are always believing that one day they will be part of the luxury class, but now the gap between middle class and top earners is a chasm that most will not be able to bridge.

As Wanda Sykes pointed out in her new talk show, "Bush peed on everything and left it dripping wet, but people look at Obama like he just zipped up."

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:25 AM on 11/15/2009
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I remember announcing to my very liberal father that I was going to register Republican, because someday I planned to be rich. I was 18. Once he got over laughing himself silly, he sat me down and opened up my eyes to the true nature of Republicans. Reagan was up for re-election. I ended up voting Democrat, and have ever since.

Now the Republicans are good at hoodwinking working class folks into believing that they represent them, when all they truly represent is keeping themselves rich, at everyone else's expense.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:38 PM on 11/16/2009
- surferbuoy I'm a Fan of surferbuoy 10 fans permalink


Here is your voter turnout stats: Looks like it's pretty much the same percentage year after year, no matter who the candidates are.




http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0781453.html

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:51 PM on 11/15/2009
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This is GREAT NEWS!

We finally learn that when the top 2% has as much wealth as the bottom 90%, THAT is when trickle down starts to happen.

Now if we can only make the rich even richer, by giving them more of our money, MORE trickle down will happen!!!!

We can have as good an economy as Paraguay or Nigeria!!!

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:20 AM on 11/15/2009
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I've been waiting since the 80's for my trickle. Still waiting...

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:39 PM on 11/16/2009
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Been in a Walmart two times in the last year.

Both times the cashier was trying to ram a Walmart charge card down my throat. Wondered why.

Now I see. Give them a walmart charge card as a device to garner holiday sales. Can't afford the gift, get some credit at the source.

Jeesh. Pathetic.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:34 PM on 11/14/2009
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Target practice.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:40 PM on 11/14/2009
- wearyvoter I'm a Fan of wearyvoter 4 fans permalink

And if the cashier doesn't hit their quota for whatever time period, they get fired.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:18 AM on 11/15/2009
- Indon I'm a Fan of Indon 12 fans permalink

It's not like Walmart has any shortage of people willing to work low-wage jobs, either.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:07 AM on 11/15/2009

Like any one would be surprised with this situation of the Rich buying high end quality goods, everyone else down to basics.

Is'nt this the whole point of that New American Century, New World Order, news, that did the rounds not long ago .....??

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:59 PM on 11/14/2009
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PERHAPS THIS HELPS EXPLAIN L1EBERMAN'S HIS ANTI-AMERICAN PEOPLE STANCE!

Connecticut Leads Nation in Multiple Measures of Income Inequality

Key Facts:

1. Census data shows Connecticut leads the nation in household income inequality
2. CT has second-most unequal household income distribution
3. The greatest growth in household income inequality over the past several decades.
4. CT has 4 of TOP 5 Metro Areas for increasing income inequality

http://www.ctdatahaven.org/reports/CT_inequality_07.pdf

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:29 PM on 11/14/2009

That's because a good portion of Wall Street lives in CT--particularly the southwestern region (i.e., close to NY).

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:24 AM on 11/15/2009
- DuganS1 I'm a Fan of DuganS1 18 fans permalink

The article doesn't summarize an accurate analysis of consumer spending. There were pretty good earning reports (good relative to expectations and improving) from middle class shopping retailers like Abercrombie, Kohl's, Urban Outfitters, Ralph Lauren, JC Penny, and Under Armour. We also should see good ones this week from J Crew and Guess. Aeropostale has seen pretty good sales throughout the entire recession, although they missed expectations this quarter. Starbucks is also doing well. True Religion has also been solid throughout the recession. Who would have thunk that teens and 20 somethings would continue to buy $200-$350 jeans throughout the recession, but they are.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:24 PM on 11/14/2009
- Flavor I'm a Fan of Flavor 63 fans permalink

I have notice that also.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:42 PM on 11/14/2009
- jojony I'm a Fan of jojony 2 fans permalink

Very good point.

This site is for those who hate the rich, so dont be surprised if you dont hear about any of the other retailers.

Its class envy and it pathetic.

Not everyone can do a job that pay $100K, let alone a $1M job.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:58 AM on 11/15/2009
- lizt I'm a Fan of lizt 14 fans permalink

Actually, the rich never stopped buying. I remember seeing articles last year about how they were hiding their purchases in plain bags.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:18 PM on 11/14/2009
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Yep, I saw the same thing. Perhaps they need more tax cuts!

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:27 AM on 11/15/2009
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I like what I heard Deepak Chopra say recently about the ugliness of the word "consumer". He defined it as people buying things they don't need, with money they haven't earned, to impress people they don't like. I'd say that hits the nail on the American consumer head.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:29 PM on 11/14/2009
- novoorganum I'm a Fan of novoorganum 124 fans permalink
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“When the bewildered herd asks its government to do something. The conservatives and their self-entitled elite paymasters make vacuous statements like, Get a Job, Communism, Lefty, free-market, blah, blah. But, when our government acts on behalf of wall street, banks, ceo's, agro-business, private defense contractors, corporations, in the form of subsidies and bailouts; you get rationalizations. In otherwords, what they are really saying is: socialism for private wealth and power, but for you and I-- the free-market-- where if you fail, it is your own fault-- tough luck and tough love.”

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:29 PM on 11/14/2009

Novo-
You just provided CNBC with their mission statement....Watch their hosts blast the Obama administration on any proposal to help the middle-cla­ss....TARP money for Wall Stree...Gr­eat!!...He­althcare for Americans...bad!!! Maria Bartiromo and Michele Cabrera-Caruso have hatred in their eyes when they speak of an Obama initiative to help the middle-class...

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:22 PM on 11/14/2009
- Mnemanth I'm a Fan of Mnemanth 16 fans permalink
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Indeed, indeed.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:32 PM on 11/16/2009
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The wires have crossed
the lines are down and the messages aren't getting through
the people that vote the politicians into their offices
are not being represented when
the corporations have bought nearly everyone
The Constitution's preamble states "We the people..."
nothing about the corporations!

Abolish corporate personhood!

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:28 PM on 11/14/2009


We, the American people, dug ourselves into this hold for which there is no escape.a

good articles; http://financeopinionss.blogspot.com

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:57 PM on 11/14/2009
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