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Rich Buying Again, But Middle Class Still Hurting

EMILY FREDRIX   11/13/09 10:43 PM ET   AP

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American shoppers are splitting again: The affluent are finally starting to buy, picking up designer clothes at places like Nordstrom, while those on the lower economic rungs are still scrimping by, heading to Walmart for the basics.

Recent earnings reports from major retailers suggest that the wealthy, who pulled back their spending the hardest during the financial meltdown last fall, are once again being enticed to open their wallets and going back to higher-end outlets.

"It's a good sign, but we don't see the same across the board," said Richard Hastings, a consumer strategist with Global Hunter Securities LLC.

It's still a far cry from the era of conspicuous consumption. No matter the tax bracket, people are still focused on value and trying to avoid overspending – whatever that might mean to them.

Luxury chains like Nordstrom Inc. and Bloomingdale's, owned by Macy's Inc., say shoppers are spending again on items like shoes and dresses, but still shopping for lower prices and classic pieces that get a lot of use.

On the other hand, discounters like Wal-Mart Stores Inc. are lowering prices even further to coax their less-well-off shoppers to keep spending. And it's not on anything glamorous. We're talking basics, like food and socks.

Think of it as two different groups as the economy recovers – spenders and savers.

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THE SPENDERS

Luxury department stores like Nordstrom and Saks are starting to get more traffic. Part of the reason is that they've rolled out some merchandise at slightly lower prices, which is helping to keep the affluent from trading down to other stores.

"If they do spend, it's very scrutinized and it's very value-driven," said luxury retail analyst Robert Burke. "And they want items they can wear multiple places."

Other expensive stores like Abercrombie & Fitch are taking the lesson. The preppy clothing seller said Friday it will offer some lower-priced basics and stock up on denim early next year.

Nordstrom's third-quarter profit rose as sales improved compared with last year. Of course, last year marked a sharp drop in luxury spending as the financial crisis deepened.

Shoppers like Patricia Murnane show what's still changed. The 47-year-old risk manager from New York was shopping for black dress slacks Friday at a Nordstrom in Chicago.

She says she goes to more stores now to make sure she's getting the best price. "I used to consider shopping entertainment, but now I don't think it's entertainment," she said.

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THE SAVERS

Middle-class and poorer shoppers are still clutching their wallets and focusing on basics, even as they start to venture out to stores more.

Kohl's, a chain of midrange department stores, said more customers came into its stores in the third quarter and made more purchases, but they're still limiting their spending.

Its shoppers are on a mission for a set list of items and not straying, CEO Kevin Mansell said.

"We're not able to convince them to buy that extra thing," he told The Associated Press.

Faced with slower sales, J.C. Penney Co. has cut its inventory so it doesn't have to rely on as much discounting. Sales were still weak as its shoppers continued to worry about job security and tight credit.

Walmart continues to benefit from higher customer traffic as it aggressively discounts everything from electronics to food. But its sales at stores open at least a year slipped for the second straight quarter as shoppers spent less.

Walmart noted more pronounced swings in spending between paycheck cycles – a sign that people have little extra to spend.

That makes sense because Walmart customers who earn the least money are among the economy's hardest-hit as unemployment tops 10 percent and gas prices edge upward, said Hastings, the consumer strategist.

"The lower-income Walmart shopper, they start to become poorer than usual, and they'll really start to lag behind," he said.

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AP Retail Writer Ashley M. Heher contributed to this report from Chicago.

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davidwayneosedach
05:19 PM on 11/15/2009
Twenty five million Americans are out of work. That's a lot of spending power mostly lost.
12:26 PM on 11/15/2009
There wont be any positive change for middle and lower class form the Obammi administration. Expect more of the same BS that was 2002-2007. More bonuses for wall street, surging stock market, booming economy, widening wealth gap, surging gas, surging food, unfordable education & health care & surging oil prices, continuation of Iraq/Afghanistan wars, and high unemployment.

hat tip to; http://financeopinionss.blogspot.com
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Patriot86
Compassion is the basis of all morality.
07:29 AM on 11/16/2009
Well considering it was Bush who caused this and gave out Tarp...I think you have nerve to post this.
11:09 AM on 11/15/2009
Apparently, "Ownership Society" was never meant to be a single thing at all - instead, the phrase represents two mutually exclusive options: You either have ownership, or you're a part of society.
09:53 AM on 11/15/2009
I prefer Saks over Nordstrom.

Nordstrom doesnt have much of a mens section.
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weebils
I like jalapenos and hot sauce
08:01 AM on 11/15/2009
Well, the middle class voted twice for Reagan and twice for Bush. Both believed in enabling the rich. What's the problem? People are just getting what they voted for or in most cases they sat home and didn't vote. When we have a 90% or higher voter turnout and people take an interest in their government then I will feel more sympathy.
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SteveDenver
Progressive and liberal, just like Jesus Christ.
09:25 AM on 11/15/2009
The middle class are always believing that one day they will be part of the luxury class, but now the gap between middle class and top earners is a chasm that most will not be able to bridge.

As Wanda Sykes pointed out in her new talk show, "Bush peed on everything and left it dripping wet, but people look at Obama like he just zipped up."
10:38 PM on 11/16/2009
I remember announcing to my very liberal father that I was going to register Republican, because someday I planned to be rich. I was 18. Once he got over laughing himself silly, he sat me down and opened up my eyes to the true nature of Republicans. Reagan was up for re-election. I ended up voting Democrat, and have ever since.

Now the Republicans are good at hoodwinking working class folks into believing that they represent them, when all they truly represent is keeping themselves rich, at everyone else's expense.
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07:51 PM on 11/15/2009
Here is your voter turnout stats: Looks like it's pretty much the same percentage year after year, no matter who the candidates are.




http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0781453.html
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swift goat pet for truth
The Life of the Land is preserved in Righteousness
01:20 AM on 11/15/2009
This is GREAT NEWS!

We finally learn that when the top 2% has as much wealth as the bottom 90%, THAT is when trickle down starts to happen.

Now if we can only make the rich even richer, by giving them more of our money, MORE trickle down will happen!!!!

We can have as good an economy as Paraguay or Nigeria!!!
10:39 PM on 11/16/2009
I've been waiting since the 80's for my trickle. Still waiting...
10:34 PM on 11/14/2009
Been in a Walmart two times in the last year.

Both times the cashier was trying to ram a Walmart charge card down my throat. Wondered why.

Now I see. Give them a walmart charge card as a device to garner holiday sales. Can't afford the gift, get some credit at the source.

Jeesh. Pathetic.
10:40 PM on 11/14/2009
Target practice.
01:18 AM on 11/15/2009
And if the cashier doesn't hit their quota for whatever time period, they get fired.
11:07 AM on 11/15/2009
It's not like Walmart has any shortage of people willing to work low-wage jobs, either.
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HelloFunnyWorld
In Times Of Sorry Leadership.... Cry or Manage Up?
08:59 PM on 11/14/2009
Like any one would be surprised with this situation of the Rich buying high end quality goods, everyone else down to basics.

Is'nt this the whole point of that New American Century, New World Order, news, that did the rounds not long ago .....??
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PhilipTaylor
Legalized Bribery is an Oxymoron - must END
08:29 PM on 11/14/2009
PERHAPS THIS HELPS EXPLAIN L1EBERMAN'S HIS ANTI-AMERICAN PEOPLE STANCE!

Connecticut Leads Nation in Multiple Measures of Income Inequality

Key Facts:

1. Census data shows Connecticut leads the nation in household income inequality
2. CT has second-most unequal household income distribution
3. The greatest growth in household income inequality over the past several decades.
4. CT has 4 of TOP 5 Metro Areas for increasing income inequality

http://www.ctdatahaven.org/reports/CT_inequality_07.pdf
11:24 AM on 11/15/2009
That's because a good portion of Wall Street lives in CT--particularly the southwestern region (i.e., close to NY).
08:24 PM on 11/14/2009
The article doesn't summarize an accurate analysis of consumer spending. There were pretty good earning reports (good relative to expectations and improving) from middle class shopping retailers like Abercrombie, Kohl's, Urban Outfitters, Ralph Lauren, JC Penny, and Under Armour. We also should see good ones this week from J Crew and Guess. Aeropostale has seen pretty good sales throughout the entire recession, although they missed expectations this quarter. Starbucks is also doing well. True Religion has also been solid throughout the recession. Who would have thunk that teens and 20 somethings would continue to buy $200-$350 jeans throughout the recession, but they are.
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Flavor
Change Is Now
11:42 PM on 11/14/2009
I have notice that also.
09:58 AM on 11/15/2009
Very good point.

This site is for those who hate the rich, so dont be surprised if you dont hear about any of the other retailers.

Its class envy and it pathetic.

Not everyone can do a job that pay $100K, let alone a $1M job.
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lizt
former Army officer/lifelong liberal/pdx biker
07:18 PM on 11/14/2009
Actually, the rich never stopped buying. I remember seeing articles last year about how they were hiding their purchases in plain bags.
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SteveDenver
Progressive and liberal, just like Jesus Christ.
09:27 AM on 11/15/2009
Yep, I saw the same thing. Perhaps they need more tax cuts!
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yourmotherwasahamster
Love many, trust few, always paddle your own canoe
05:29 PM on 11/14/2009
I like what I heard Deepak Chopra say recently about the ugliness of the word "consumer". He defined it as people buying things they don't need, with money they haven't earned, to impress people they don't like. I'd say that hits the nail on the American consumer head.
02:29 PM on 11/14/2009
“When the bewildered herd asks its government to do something. The conservatives and their self-entitled elite paymasters make vacuous statements like, Get a Job, Communism, Lefty, free-market, blah, blah. But, when our government acts on behalf of wall street, banks, ceo's, agro-business, private defense contractors, corporations, in the form of subsidies and bailouts; you get rationalizations. In otherwords, what they are really saying is: socialism for private wealth and power, but for you and I-- the free-market-- where if you fail, it is your own fault-- tough luck and tough love.â€
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duckfan00
Après nous le deluge
04:22 PM on 11/14/2009
Novo-
You just provided CNBC with their mission statement....Watch their hosts blast the Obama administration on any proposal to help the middle-class....TARP money for Wall Stree...Great!!...Healthcare for Americans...bad!!! Maria Bartiromo and Michele Cabrera-Caruso have hatred in their eyes when they speak of an Obama initiative to help the middle-class...
04:32 PM on 11/16/2009
Indeed, indeed.
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02:28 PM on 11/14/2009
The wires have crossed
the lines are down and the messages aren't getting through
the people that vote the politicians into their offices
are not being represented when
the corporations have bought nearly everyone
The Constitution's preamble states "We the people..."
nothing about the corporations!

Abolish corporate personhood!
12:57 PM on 11/14/2009
We, the American people, dug ourselves into this hold for which there is no escape.a

good articles; http://financeopinionss.blogspot.com