Glitch Could Force 15 MILLION People To Repay Obama's Stimulus Tax Credit

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STEPHEN OHLEMACHER | 11/16/09 07:04 PM | AP

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WASHINGTON – More than 15 million taxpayers may owe the government $250 or more because of how the IRS last spring set up President Barack Obama's tax break that was designed to help consumers spend the U.S. economy out of recession.

Individuals with more than one job and married couples in which both spouses work may have to repay the government $400, either through a smaller tax refund or a larger tax bill, according to a report released Monday by the Treasury Department's inspector general for tax administration. Social Security recipients who also earn taxable wages may have to repay $250.

The tax credit, which is supposed to pay individuals up to $400 and couples up to $800, was Obama's signature tax break in the massive stimulus package enacted in February. The credit has increased weekly paychecks for 95 percent of working families, giving them cash to help boost consumer spending during the worst economic recession in decades.

Workers concerned about whether they are withholding enough taxes can use a calculator on the IRS Web site to find the appropriate amount that should be withheld.

Taxpayers can adjust their withholding by filing a new W-4 form with their employer. But with only a month and a half remaining in the 2009 tax year, it's getting late to make adjustments.

Most workers started receiving the credit through small increases in their paychecks in April. The tax credit was made available through new tax withholding tables issued by the Internal Revenue Service.

The withholding tables, however, do not take into account several common categories of taxpayers. And that could force some people to repay what the government gave them.

For example, a worker with two jobs gets a $400 boost in pay at each job, for a total of $800. That worker, however, only is eligible for a maximum credit of $400, so the remaining $400 will have to be paid back at tax time – either through a smaller refund or a payment to the IRS.

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The IRS recognized there could be a similar problem for married couples if both spouses work, so it adjusted the withholding tables. The fix, however, was imperfect.

A married couple is eligible for an $800 credit. However, if both spouses work and make more than $13,000, the new withholding tables give them each a $600 boost – for a total of $1,200.

There were 33 million married couples in 2008 in which both spouses worked. That's 55 percent of all married couples, according to the Census Bureau.

Also, a single student with a part-time job gets a $400 boost in pay. However, if students are claimed as dependents on their parents' tax returns, they don't qualify for the credit and would have to repay it when they file their returns.

Some retirees face even bigger headaches.

More than 50 million Social Security recipients received $250 payments in the spring as part of the economic stimulus package. Those lump sum payments were intended to provide a boost for people who didn't qualify for the tax credit.

However, the payments were sent to many retirees who also received the tax credit. Those retirees will have the $250 payment deducted from their tax credit – but not until they file their tax returns next year, long after the money may have been spent.

"More than 10 percent of all taxpayers who file individual tax returns for 2009 could owe additional taxes," said J. Russell George, the Treasury inspector general for tax administration.

Sen. Chuck Grassley of Iowa, the senior Republican on the Senate Finance Committee, called problems with the tax credit "another unfortunate example of what can happen when Congress and the White House rush through legislation like the stimulus without thinking through the consequences."

The tax credit is also available for 2010. George said the problems will continue if workers don't adjust their withholding for next year.

For many, the new tax tables will simply mean smaller-than-expected tax refunds. The average tax refund this year was about $2,800. A little more than three-fourths of the 143 million taxpayers filing a return last spring received refunds, according to the IRS.

But for 15.4 million taxpayers, the new tax tables will mean an unexpected tax bill, according the IG report.

The IRS was aware of the issues when the withholding tables were released last spring and waged a public awareness campaign to get people to check their tax withholding, said Michael Mundaca, acting assistant treasury secretary.

"It's just technically how withholding works," Mundaca said. "It's an approximation and therefore for some people there will be overwithholding and for some people there will be underwithholding."

Separately, the IRS estimated that about 65,000 taxpayers could face penalties for not withholding enough taxes in 2009 because of the Making Work Pay tax credit. However, those taxpayers will be eligible to have the penalty waived, IRS spokeswoman Michelle Eldridge said.

The credit pays workers 6.2 percent of their earned income, up to a maximum of $400 for individuals and $800 for married couples who file jointly. Individuals making more than $95,000 and couples making more than $190,000 are ineligible.

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On the Web:

IRS Making Work Pay tax credit: http://tiny.cc/g7d83

IRS withholding calculator: http://tiny.cc/AtuhO

WASHINGTON – More than 15 million taxpayers may owe the government $250 or more because of how the IRS last spring set up President Barack Obama's tax break that was designed to help consumers s...
WASHINGTON – More than 15 million taxpayers may owe the government $250 or more because of how the IRS last spring set up President Barack Obama's tax break that was designed to help consumers s...
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Once again, Obama fails to make progress with anything. All this traveling is a waste of tax payer dollars and never brings any resolution. We need less free trade and more manufacturing in America.

hat tip to http://financeopinionss.blogspot.com
Meanwhile, wall street makes record revenues and profits while unemployment shows no signs of abating. What a joke.
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    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:08 PM on 11/18/2009
- New dadw5boys I'm a Fan of dadw5boys 272 fans permalink
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Well since we have NEVER HAD FREE TRADE that would be a change !!!!!!!

Or do you not know about Barrier to Entry Laws, Tax Write Off, Corporate Welfare, and Economic Devolpment Funding ?????

I bet you do.

Unemployment always laggs behind in a recovery alwasy has always will !!!!!!!

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:35 PM on 11/18/2009
- ChangeNow I'm a Fan of ChangeNow 2 fans permalink

If the IRS made the error, then they need to eat the result. If I had made a tax error, they would charge me the tax, a penalty, and interest on the tax, and interest on the penalty. The President needs to tell them to back off.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:00 AM on 11/18/2009
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Why not use the overpaid money the TARP recipients received to "pay this back"? What a joke!

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:37 AM on 11/18/2009
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Eh, this article is misleading. Tax withholding schedules are inherently compromises. People in unusual situations sometimes get screwed by them. The married couple problem was because companies don't necessarily know who is married. So the feds adjusted the withholding to an intermediate value to accomodate both. Likewise, they're not going to know who is working two jobs, or who is a dependent.

It's an inherent problem in delivering the stimulus through tax withholding, as opposed to a one-time check, like was done under the Bush administration. Both approaches have good points and bad points. A slightly increased paycheck encourages people to spend a little more money each pay period, over a long period of time. The downside is illustrated by the withholding problems, for which there isn't a good solve I can think of.

One-time checks provide a sharp, but very brief stimulus. The downside is it's going to have zero effect after a couple weeks. However, people do notice it when they can cash a check for a few hundred bucks, as opposed to a small increase that might be noticed. The Bush method is probably the best way to draw in votes; the Obama approach is smarter, and more long-term, but it runs into small problems like this article demonstrates.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:22 PM on 11/17/2009
- Enid I'm a Fan of Enid 9 fans permalink

Everyone seams all a twitter over millions and billions of debt dollars.
We the USA owe trillions possibly in the fifty to sixty trillion dollar range plus.
Pensions and state debt, future military retirement and their health care cost.
Plus other unforscene future black swans ? War debt ?
Expediently this just can't balance out.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:27 PM on 11/17/2009
- USA2Sense I'm a Fan of USA2Sense 5 fans permalink

The American Public - Screwed Again!!!!!!!!!

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:23 PM on 11/17/2009
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Wow thanks for this post, that has not gotten a lot of press so far. Tax breaks tend to be an illusion more than a reality. In NYC we get tax rebate checks nice in a while especially around election years but the amount of those rebates are taxable (or deducted from our real estate property tax deduction). tax credits should be regarded as PR put out by politicians and examined very carefully before being declared an actual 'gift' from the government.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:49 AM on 11/17/2009
- OgreDaddy I'm a Fan of OgreDaddy 31 fans permalink
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Have you guys ever noticed that our government has a special Tax Court?

The reason they use this special Tax Court is because there is actually No Federal Tax Law,
only an implied " Tax Code" The Conventional Courts can only enforce Laws.

Federal income Tax was only meant to be a temporary measure requiring certain "Privileged Federal Employees" to pay " Federal Income Tax"

Anyone challenging these implied laws is quickly denounced for bringing a frivolous suite to the courts, when the real problem is that there is no Law.

These "Tax Codes" have been carefully worded with broad definitions to imply that non Federal
workers are also responsible for paying Federal Taxes, but there is actually no law.

The courts are terrified of what would happen if they admitted the truth.

Their only answer is to refuse to hear the cases.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:41 AM on 11/17/2009
- marijam I'm a Fan of marijam 37 fans permalink
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RE: Individuals with more than one job and married couples in which both spouses work may have to repay the government $400, either through a smaller tax refund or a larger tax bill, according to a report released Monday by the Treasury Department's inspector general for tax administration. Social Security recipients who also earn taxable wages may have to repay $250.

I knew this would be coming. Tax breaks on the federal level are never true tax breaks. They're nothing more than a loan against your tax return. It's a good thing it was so small. More money out of our return would have hurt.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:14 AM on 11/17/2009
- PAsteelers I'm a Fan of PAsteelers 98 fans permalink
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Oooh, a whole $250.00, what will I do. There are bugs and glitches
in everything. I will say that the good the stimulus has done far
outweighs the bad.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:46 AM on 11/17/2009
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Please remind us where the 24 trillion US Dollars has gone to, or may I ask again, to What foreign Bank and Wall st bankers has the US money been given too.
Since Bernake doesn't know or wont tell us, maybe you would know.
And how about that 20% unemployment, hows the stimulus working for them?
Hows the new taxes going, with the CO2 taxes coming soon too, and the loaded penalties included in health care, hows that going to stimulate the people?
And how stimulating having 70 trillion debt total liabilities, double the world, considering the bill will be shelved onto the taxpayer for hundreds of years, how stimulating is that?

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:53 AM on 11/17/2009
- pearlx2 I'm a Fan of pearlx2 26 fans permalink

That's right. This is NOT a big deal, and it doesn't even affect the majority of people who received the stimulus money.

A lot of moaning and complaining about nothing. So a small percentage of people/families will receive a slightly less tax refund than they expected -- BIG DEAL.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:23 PM on 11/17/2009



GOT HOPE???
The insurance companies, Big Pharma, and the Banks have plenty of hope...

How about you America? Still think your living in a Democracy???

They couldn't care less about you...

What a effn joke this government is...

So go ahead and vote, yeah, you do that and then the congress will do what they please...

WAKE UP PEOPLE YOUR GOVERNMENT SELLS TO THE HIGHEST BIDDER!!!

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:30 AM on 11/17/2009

lol, yeah right.....

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:07 AM on 11/17/2009
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I'd say "FU". Go get it from the overpaid banks.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:59 AM on 11/17/2009
- masher I'm a Fan of masher 34 fans permalink

This is classic. When it comes to Wall Street Geithner says he can't ask for top dollar because it *might* force banks to overpay. He uses some other excuses too. But the point is that he think the government must be careful with billionaires.

But then it comes to working folks the rules are different!

I wish they were consistent. Treat billionaires the way working folks are treated. Why is that so hard?

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:49 AM on 11/17/2009
- Viper I'm a Fan of Viper 236 fans permalink

Pls some are geting more than they should. almost half of all Americans were against the stimulus.. eventhough its benefited most.

If some one overpays you, do you feel offended to pay it back or just honest?

regards

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:46 AM on 11/17/2009
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how would they proof that they overpaid anybody?

I believe it when I see it and second earlier than that.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:54 AM on 11/17/2009
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not one second

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:55 AM on 11/17/2009
- loki I'm a Fan of loki 128 fans permalink
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a corporate CEO ask for another bail out, so they need some money for it.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:41 AM on 11/17/2009
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