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Recession Intensifies GenX Discontent At Work: Generation X Vs. Baby Boomers, GenY

MARTHA IRVINE   11/16/09 08:11 AM ET   AP

CHICAGO — They're antsy and edgy, tired of waiting for promotion opportunities at work as their elders put off retirement. A good number of them are just waiting for the economy to pick up so they can hop to the next job, find something more fulfilling and get what they think they deserve. Oh, and they want work-life balance, too.

Sounds like Gen Y, the so-called "entitlement generation," right?

Not necessarily, say people who track the generations. In these hard times, they're also hearing strong rumblings of discontent from Generation X. They're the 32- to 44-year-olds who are wedged between baby boomers and their children, often feeling like forgotten middle siblings – and increasingly restless at work as a result.

"All of a sudden, we've gone from being the young upstarts to being the curmudgeons," says Bruce Tulgan, a generational consultant who's written books about various age groups, including his fellow Gen Xers.

This isn't the first time Gen Xers have faced tough times. They came of age during a recession and survived the dot-com bust of 2000. In recent years, though, more members of the generation – stereotyped early on as jaded individualists – had families or began settling down in other ways. It was time, they thought, to enjoy the rewards of paying some dues.

"We were starting to buy into the system, at least to some extent," Tulgan says, "and then we got the rug pulled out from under us."

Now, in this latest recession, nearly two-thirds of baby boomer workers, ages 50 to 61, say they might have to push back their retirement, according to a recent survey from Pew Research.

Meanwhile, on the other end of the age spectrum are Gen Yers, who are often cheaper to hire and heralded for their coveted high-tech knowledge, even though many Gen Xers consider themselves just as technologically savvy.

"It's so annoying," says Lisa Chamberlain, another Gen Xer who wrote the book "Slackonomics: Generation X in the Age of Creative Destruction." "First, it was always the baby boomers overshadowing everything. Then there was this brief period in the mid-'90s where Gen X was cool.

"Now it's, 'What are the new kids doing?' It's like 'Yo, hello, the Google guys are Gen Xers.'"

They can sound a little whiny. But there's also some evidence that Gen Xers really are being taken for granted at work.

One survey done this year for Deloitte Consulting LLP, for instance, found that nearly two-thirds of executives at large companies were most concerned about losing Gen Y employees, while less than half of them had similar concerns about losing Gen Xers.

The assumption is often that Gen Yers are the least loyal and most mobile, says Robin Erickson, a manager with Deloitte's human capital division.

However, she points out that a companion survey of employees found that only about 37 percent of Gen Xers said they planned to stay in their current jobs after the recession ends, compared with 44 percent of Gen Yers, 50 percent of baby boomers and 52 percent of senior citizen workers who said the same.

Everyone surveyed worried about job security. Gen X and Gen Y were most likely to complain about pay. But a "lack of career progress," was by far the biggest gripe from Gen Xers, with 40 percent giving that as a reason for their restlessness, compared with 30 percent of Gen Yers, 20 percent of baby boomers and 14 percent of senior workers.

Gen Yers, meanwhile, were more likely than the other generations to cite "lack of challenges in the job" as a reason they would leave, while baby boomers more often chose "poor employee treatment during the downturn" and a "lack of trust in leadership."

The Deloitte study warns of a "resume' tsunami" once economic recovery begins, especially among Gen Xers, and notes that many executives were largely unaware of employee complaints unrelated to money.

Such findings don't surprise Rich Yudhishthu, a 37-year-old Gen Xer who's a business development consultant from Minneapolis.

"The lack of promotional opportunities has pretty much killed job loyalty within a generation," he says.

Liza Potts, a 35-year-old professor at Old Dominion University in Norfolk, Va., agrees, but also notes that the disillusionment took hold for many of her peers as far back as childhood.

"Many of my friends had hoped to have jobs like their parents – places they would stay forever that would take care of them like they did their parents. But then we saw that start to crumble for our folks," she says, recalling friends whose fathers and mothers got laid off from companies such as IBM or had to relocate.

Now worried about their own foreclosures, debt and unemployment, her generation is left to do the soul-searching their parents did.

"Is there still time to become something different? Must we just accept where we are? Is there time to innovate elsewhere?" asks Potts who left her own career in the software and Internet industry for a life in academia. It's meant less money, she says, but also more freedom to choose her work hours and projects.

In Chicago, 40-year-old real estate agent Adon Navarette has taken on extra jobs to make it, from consultant for an energy supply company to starting his own health and wellness business. He's heard his peers sniping about other generations, but also thinks their experience with other rough economic patches makes them resilient, too.

It's a pivotal moment, he says.

"What's going to define me as a Gen Xer is how I come out of this. What's going to define me is, 'What have I done to allow myself to take advantage of the market when the market turns around?'" he says.

Sometimes, it means working for less money.

Jon Anne Willow, co-publisher of ThirdCoastDigest.com, an online arts and culture site in Milwaukee, is among employers who've recently been able to hire more experienced candidates for jobs traditionally filled by 20somethings.

They're hungry to work, she says. And as she sees it, that gives her fellow Gen Xers and the baby boomers she's hired a distinct advantage over a lot of the Gen Yers she's come across.

"When the dust settles, they'll be exactly as they were before and we'll just have to sift through them and take the ones that actually get it and hope the rest find employment in fast food," she quips.

Spoken like a truly jaded Gen Xer.

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Martha Irvine is an AP national writer. She can be reached at mirvine(at)ap.org or via http://twitter.com/irvineap

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01:59 AM on 11/17/2009
I can't see any real differences between X and Y other than the decade or so that separates their ages. Attitudes, outlook and expectations are the same. - Coming from an Xer with X and Y friends. OMG this is ridic...
01:02 AM on 11/22/2009
Not really. Younger workers are probably just happier to have any job right now thus causing the differences in the surveys.
10:38 PM on 11/16/2009
Sarah Palin is generation X, enough said. I hope we skip that generation for any power positions.
01:17 AM on 11/17/2009
Dubya was a baby boomer...
BlackBottom
Staunch supporter of the Capite Censi & Middle Cls
04:57 PM on 11/16/2009
I find the inter-genrational bickering and finger-pointing quite humorous. Thanks guys! I must say however, that the boomers are the last generation with a soul in that we were in the streets to protest the staus quo via the Women's Movement, Civil Rights, anti-aparthied and unjust wars. It can be argued that boomers sparked the world-wide revolution in Poland, Central America and the fall of the Berlin Wall, for the people involved in those uprisings got their spark and courage from what was done in 1960's and 70's America. It is the boomers who led the fight against the Bush cabal and its war mongering policies. Sadly, the generations that have followed have bought in to the souless greed of Reaganomics and unfettered greed. Many of the Xs and Ys where absent during Bush's drive to avenge his father's honor. My suggestion to X and Y is to stop whining about your job prospects and do something meaningful--like removing the stench of the Reagan era in supporting healthcare reform and climate change. Gens X and Y have done nothing to claim in right of entitlement.

WE HAVE!
05:59 PM on 11/16/2009
Wow, did Boomers really do all that?

With regard to Baby Boomers, on an individual level, my biggest criticism has always been their unwavering belief in their own exceptionalism. You have once again confirmed my stereotypes of what Baby Boomers are like... THank you.
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brooklyncitizen
Soror quaerens lucem
07:28 PM on 11/16/2009
Whatever.
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hypnotoad72
Real democracy = living wages.
04:55 PM on 11/16/2009
A real rule is this: "Don't trust anyone over 30

million."

:-)
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04:04 PM on 11/16/2009
Gen X? Gen Y? I think it sucks that these people have letters in stead of whole names. Though it's no big thrill to have an entire generation labeled Baby Boomers or The Greatest Generation.

I am from the Baby Boomer Generation. And I have never had job stability. The only job stability I have wanted is as an actress and writer. What chances? I've had to do a million different jobs to stay alive.

I remember reading years ago that job stability ended with the WWII generation. That a person would go through at least 3 different careers or vocations in their life time. This is nothing new to our current situation.
06:00 PM on 11/16/2009
The other term for Gen X is "Baby Busters"...
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hypnotoad72
Real democracy = living wages.
12:18 PM on 11/18/2009
As in abortion or bustin' more of them out?
03:00 PM on 11/16/2009
I don't believe the quoted individuals were representative of GenX. I put little value in a quote from a 35 year old corporate drop-out, for example, who feels the need to whine (sorry, postulate) about the problems of GenX whilst she, herself, seems to be an example of someone that simply couldn't cut it in corporate life so took a low paying drudge job in academia. How is she qualfied to comment? The same is true of several of those quoted in this article.
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04:51 PM on 11/16/2009
Let's see. If those who have experienced both a corporate career and an academic career are not qualified to comment, then how many are we left with who know more about the subject?

I'd say 1% tops. And who would that be? Must be those who have experience in a corporate career on top of an academic career and also something else besides.

In short: one of those figures about whom F. Scott Fitzgerald wrote that there are no second chances in American life.

And aren't we all so much happier because of that fact?
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brooklyncitizen
Soror quaerens lucem
07:35 PM on 11/16/2009
lol

what does "couldn't cut it" mean? what does that look like?

existing for endless hours and endless years in soul-less dreadful unhealthy corporate america is certain death for any individual who is creative and thoughtful. I guess putting up with this kind of life is "cutting it".
10:34 PM on 11/16/2009
As in: Sarah Palin couldn't cut her job as Governor of Alaska, so she quit to make more money in media.
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03:11 AM on 11/17/2009
For some people, being tough and self-destructive is the only way they can feel like they're alive. Poor fellas, aren't they?

The problem, however, isn't that they are indeed destroying themselves. That wouldn't matter much. The problem is that take the whole world with them.

I'm against that. It's not fair.
02:55 PM on 11/16/2009
I don't believe the whole generational arguments. It's just a tool for sociologists to stay employed. There are a lot of things that have or have not happened to bring about disatisfaction, but most of it is due to natural material escalation.

The biggest issue that all subsequent generations have is the rise of material comfort, and that material costs money. Thus we have to buy a bunch more crap to feel satisfied. Think about how much more money you would have if you had one car ( or none), no cell phone, computer, vcr, a big ass house. And you want to live longer so you buy medicines out the ying yang, and you want your parents to live to be 200 so they are kept on ventilators with plastic knee caps. Take some of that out. and see how much more money you might have, or how much less you might need.
It's not all about increased purchasing of goods. There are other factors like globalization and automation of the workforce which have caused us to have it harder. And the fact that the savings that the CEOs are getting in workforce automation and globalizaiton aren't passed down.

But a lot of the great comforts that we have gained and paid for; do cause us to have a lot less money and/or have to work harder. Think about it next time you have no money, while you surf through your 800 channels on the TV.
03:18 PM on 11/16/2009
Maybe I can persuade you that demographic phenomena are real:

Think first of the life cycle of a typical American. When the American is in his or her late teens, early 20s and still in school, what are the things that keep his or her attention? Maybe ways of finding a mate or companion, maybe ways of finding friends and having fun, etc. but certainly not questions of the relative availability of jobs in the economy or the affordability of houses or the quality of schools... these are things "older people" care about. The same person, though, in his or her mid 30s, with young children, will most likely care about career opportunities, quality schools, safe neighborhoods, a good economy, etc. The same American at age 60 will no longer be so worried about schools or jobs or finding a mate... the priorities become finding ways to piece together a safety net for the retirement years, health care etc.

In other words, collectively, a majority of people of a given age range will be at a stage in their lives that they will share common concerns, values and ideas.
03:27 PM on 11/16/2009
Agreed. I made it most of the way through "The Fourth Turning", a laborious but fascinating book about not just generations but the cultural cycles that are roughly a century but actually made up of 4 generations=a human lifetime.
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hypnotoad72
Real democracy = living wages.
12:21 PM on 11/18/2009
Pity we can't pay for companions... well, legally...

Most people buy into transportation, tools for jobs the companies won't pay for, ditto for education... it's not as charming and simplistic as you want to make it out to be.

Though I won't deny the 800 TV channels line. (the truth is in the middle)
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dakotawoman
I dreamed I saw Joe Hill. . .old time Progressive
02:48 PM on 11/16/2009
And now they pit the generations against each other, as many of the other social divisions are blending away.

Any dirty fighting and despicable tactics are deemed acceptable, if it keeps the wealth neatly out of the hands of the ones who actually work "hands-on" and make that weatlh.

It's called "good business", honey. Just "bidness" as usual.
03:28 PM on 11/16/2009
True true. But I still don't trust anyone older than me.
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hypnotoad72
Real democracy = living wages.
12:23 PM on 11/18/2009
I don't trust anyone over 30...

million.

:-D

/ducksforcover
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dakotawoman
I dreamed I saw Joe Hill. . .old time Progressive
02:42 PM on 11/16/2009
All this inter-generational blame-calling reminds me of how "The Man", the "Establishment", the "Military/Industrial Complex", the Corporate Crony" network, the "Extreme Right Wing, 10% of the Country's Wealth Hoarding Oligarchy" keeps us at odds with each other.

They have used and continue to us race, social class, educational level, regionality, blue collar/white collar job indentification and ethnicity to keep us fighting each other. And of course they must. If we EVER wake up to our common cause -- that the true value of our labor is being stolen from us and our lifestyle as captive consumers is being forced upon us to allow a few at the top to skim the very best and keep it -- we would make peace with each other and turn on THEM.

Revolution. It's inevitable. Capitalism is a failed system -- depending on ever-expanding resources/markets and a high-population/high unemployment pool of wage-slaves -- parasiting on a planet with ever-dwindling resources, an unstable physical environment ( in many ways human-created) and a human population that becomes less willing every day to remain corporate fodder for continued enriching of a group of elitist gazillionaires.

Can I get an amen?
02:59 PM on 11/16/2009
A+ but doesen't deserve a amen. That phrase i only use in church. God save us (U.S.)
03:16 PM on 11/16/2009
You are absolutely right. We have more in common with each other -- and nothing at all in common with the 2 percent -- of all ages -- who own 95% of the resources.
02:42 PM on 11/16/2009
Damn straight we're discontent(GenXers). I look at the way my parents and In-laws live and give and think; "When in the world will I ever get to live and give like that?" Every time I've had a chance to make something substantial financially, it gets destroyed by one bubble-burst or another. We've lived responsibly, within our means, worked hard and made decisions not out of greed but with regards to the concept "do the right thing" and what has it got us? Stagnation, while the criminals who created, pushed and then burst the bubble, ended up retiring millionaires.
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hypnotoad72
Real democracy = living wages.
12:27 PM on 11/18/2009
And education. Increasing education and costs put in for a substantially lesser ROI... and then we read articles about the bankers who whine, bleat, and whinny about their own genuinely overbloated incomes possibly being capped? (never mind the silence from big-corporation America, which also whines, bleats, and whinnies about insurance costs and other factors... for which they were also oddly silent on during the health care yet-to-be-proven-an-insurance-company-giveaway "reform")

Of course people aren't going to be happy. :-)
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dakotawoman
I dreamed I saw Joe Hill. . .old time Progressive
04:12 PM on 11/18/2009
And I understand. As a Boomer who made choices that restricted me from enjoying the Great Glut, I see and understand your legitimate gripes. I often share in them. I drive my some of the mansions my peers have built on the hills around my home and want to ring their doorbells and ask 'em "What the HELL do you do for a living!"
02:32 PM on 11/16/2009
When XYZers start getting uppity, our media servants should get 'em back in line with some tune(s) of proven boomer mundanity. Nominees include:

"Love Is Blue"
"You're So Vain"
"We've Only Just Begun"
"Time In A Bottle"

...ceretainly many more.
02:44 PM on 11/16/2009
Thanks. realy like the awsome selection. esspecially Carley simon o Carpenters.
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janet1003mn
04:36 PM on 11/16/2009
You forgot "Feelings," "Muskrat Love," and "You Light Up My Life."
05:37 AM on 11/17/2009
Great ones!
02:28 PM on 11/16/2009
The biggest problem with the Baby boomer generation, is, for many of them, their continued support for the Republican party. The Republicans has destroyed this country in many respects and I blame the 45+ crowd for their support.
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PivotalForce
Once a Marine, always a Marine
02:54 PM on 11/16/2009
I'm 54 and my husband is 55, we live in Texas, and we NEVER vote Republican. My Aunt is 77, and she's not a Republican either. But I know plenty of under-40s who ARE Republican supports. So that kinda shoots your theory in the foot.
06:17 PM on 11/16/2009
I am born and raised in Texas. My grandparents, who were part of the Greatest Generation, were life-long Democrats... part of Lloyd Bentson's generation. Here in Texas in the early 1970s John B Connally led a "walk out" of social conservative white racist Democrats to the Republican party. My grandparents like many of their generation refused to follow that trend. My own parents and their generation are baby boomers who voted for Carter in 1976 (Carter won TX) and became Republicans in the late 1970s and proudly voted Reagan in 1980 and never looked back... they are the ones who turned Texas into a one party state and put George W Bush in the governor office in the 1990s. As a life long Texan I have to say your experience contradicts the norm... Most people over 70 that I know are Democrats or John B Connally Republicans... The Baby Boomers (other than the African Americans) seem to be an entire generation given over to the GOP in Texas since 1980. It is MY generation that is reversing that trend...
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amdezurik
03:02 PM on 11/16/2009
so young repukelicant's get a pass from you and you will randomly blame every 45+ person you run across? pretty stoopid thing to say
03:25 PM on 11/16/2009
You are confusing the individual and the collective. When you speak of "Young Republicans" you mean, as individuals, those young people who are Republicans. WHen unscum talks about generational support for the Republicans, he is talking about the fact that if you look at the voting patterns, overall, of the demographic group born between 1945 and 1955, from the 1976 elections until the present, you will see that they started off in the 1976 election voting mostly for the Democratic party, putting Jimmy Carter into office. The same voting block shifted away from the Democratic party in 1980, and in 1984 and 1988 really came out in a big way for the Republican party. In 1992 Clinton was barely able to become President, thanks in no small part to Ross Perot's candidacy, and because Clinton was a conservative enough candidate, who had his pulse on the Baby Boomers to really get their attention (Remember, Clinton practically invented "triangulation"). In 2000 and 2004, the majority of baby boomers voted Republican.

And since the Baby Boomers constitute such a large voting block, usually whoever wins the majority of the Boomers also wins the election. So as a group, the baby boomers collectively are responsible for the Reagan Revolution and its aftermath, even if some individuals in that demographic always voted Democratic.
02:24 PM on 11/16/2009
Gen X ers are actually a tad younger. Anyone born from 1964 to 1981 is considered a Gen Xer. So that would be anyone from 28-45. Gen Y doesn't start until those born from 1982 and after.
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maggiee
03:45 PM on 11/16/2009
This may be nitpicking but the first year of gen x was 1961
06:21 PM on 11/16/2009
Not by numbers of births. The baby boom is a demographic explosion in live births that started in 1945 and peaked in the mid 1950s and didn't hit the bottom of the bust cycle until 1973. By any conventional use of the term, people born in mid-to-late 1960s are Genxers.. because the rate of live births was rapidly plummeting through the 1960s...
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CptKendrick
02:21 PM on 11/16/2009
Dang.

The next generation might have to grow up with one less electronic gizmo in their pocket or living room.

Oh, the humanity of it all.

Now excuse me while I finish iPhoning my Blackberry Facebook so I can go home and Halo my XWiiPlaybox, then google my netflx.
04:16 PM on 11/16/2009
And the boomers had two-three cars, a tv in every room, a pool, etc. Did their parents have that? Of course not. Every generation takes advantage of technologies, so stop whining.

I'm about to turn 30, whichever group that puts me in. I don't have cable, it's a waste of money and time to me. I don't have nor want an iPhone. I don't google mobiley or chat while out. Seems pretty dumb to me. I have an MP3 player with a radio which I use to listen to music, radio, and podcasts, mostly from NPR, while I'm walking or taking the subway. I don't have a car, don't really want one. Expensive and polluting. I don't even take escalators. They're a waste of exercise. I can walk up a flight of stairs.

So, I'll stack up my life against yours any day, boomer. I didn't vote for tax cuts and lack of government and then expect the world to magically be wonderful and equal for everyone. That's all on you guys.
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Anne Johnson
Fairly Unbalanced
02:12 PM on 11/16/2009
Perhaps it is time for a complete re-thinking of the whole system. There was a time when families could afford to have one breadwinner and one homemaker. Financial necessity thrust many women into the work force more than the womens' liberation movement. We may not ever get back to the level of employment that we had before the great recession started. The jobs of the future should pay more and offer more benefits then maybe we can go back to the breadwinner/homemaker dynamic and restore stability to families. I was laid off from my last job but I am lucky that my boyfriend works and has a side business enabling me to stay home and take care of the house. Unfortunately many families do not have that. I feel that I am more productive and less stressed out than I was before I lost my job. It is my hope that the era of rampant consumerism is coming to an end.
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strut1702
Fiscally conservative social libertarian.
02:23 PM on 11/16/2009
Welcome to the new global economy. Yesterday is gone. There are workers in other countries who can do things better, cheaper and faster than us. American consumers are more concerned than ever about value and getting products as cheap as possible. When we choose foreign made goods versus American goods it forces the downward spiral. How can benefits and pay remain high when that happens?
The global economy has its pros and cons. When there is *FAIR trade* (which we do not currently have with out trade deficits), it works well. As a matter of fact our exports and a cheap dollar is what is bringing up the stock market.
09:32 PM on 11/16/2009
"Financial necessity" is a relative term. My wife and I decided when we had children that we would be a one-income family. And we have been that way for years... It has meant "Keeping it real", however. It means we don't live in the same neighborhood as my co-workers. It means we don't drive the same kind of car as my co-workers. But it has been an eye-opening experience. When you try keeping the family going, year after year, on one income, you discover just what your economic status truly is... the rest is all a materialist delusion brought about by the collective transformation of the American family into a two-income family.