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Eliot Spitzer: Obama Economic Policies Ineffective, A Continuation Of Bush (WATCH)

First Posted: 03/18/10 06:12 AM ET Updated: 05/25/11 03:40 PM ET

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Are Obama's economic policies actually working?

Intelligence Squared posed this question to six policy experts at a debate in New York this week. The statement, "Obama's economic policies are working effectively," was defended by Lawrence Mishel from the Economic Policy Institute; investor and former 'Car Czar' Steven Rattner; and Mark Zandi, the chief economist and co-founder of Moody's Economy.com.

Arguing that Obama's economic approach is failing were James Galbraith of the University of Texas; Carnegie Mellon's Allan Meltzer; and former New York governor Eliot Spitzer.

The speakers defending Obama's handling of the economic crisis insisted that the economy, at the precipice a year ago, was brought back from the edge by the administration's strategy. They urged patience in allowing Obama's policies to broaden and take effect, and Zandi, who called the measures "successful," counseled that we should be careful not to be too rash in fundamentally restructuring the economic system:

"The proposition is, "Obama's Economic Policies Are Working Effectively." It's not, they have worked. This is not a mission accomplished, no one is arguing that this is over and done with, we have more work to do, and the administration is still working...And more importantly and perhaps most importantly, we are working through some of the structural problems in our economy, working on the hard, difficult issues, the most obvious would be financial regulatory reform. Now this is something you don't want to do quickly, you don't want to make a mistake. Our financial regulatory structure has been in place since the Great Depression. It feels like it, and we have got to take time to make it right. So, in my view, what the administration has done has been highly successful."

Mishel pointed out that the philosophy of deregulation, which he blamed for the crisis, has a deep-seated history in America -- for which Obama is not responsible:

"But the question is, are you going to judge the Obama administration policy ineffective, because it hasn't corrected what I think is 30 years of generating inequality, false-hearted, silly deregulation and worshipping of markets where we shouldn't have done it that got us into this darn mess? I don't think that's quite appropriate."

But Spitzer took aim at the administration's approach, accusing it of shying away from the kind of comprehensive reform that the financial system needs. The Obama administration is not so different from the Bush administration, at least so far as their approach to the banking crisis goes, he claimed:

"The fundamental error of this administration is that it is continuity. They have embraced the Bush Administration view that if you solve the problem of big banks everything else flows from that. They are wrong. Too big to fail is too big. They don't get it. The only two people I know who don't appreciate that are Tim Geithner and Larry Summers. Paul Volcker, Alan Greenspan, Henry Kaufman, Mervyn King -- every major academic has said, We must get rid of too big to fail."

Watch Spitzer make his case against Obama's effectiveness as manager of the financial crisis below:

Eliot Spitzer arguing against Obamanomics from Intelligence Squared US on Vimeo.



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Are Obama's economic policies actually working? Intelligence Squared posed this question to six policy experts at a debate in New York this week. The statement, "Obama's economic policies are work...
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11:34 PM on 11/23/2009
This is as absurd as the Palin 2012 media bilge. This dude, former member of The Emperors Club - an international prostitution ring, no less - who could spend $4,500 in 3 hrs w/a prostitute - after he busted prostitutes as State Atty Gen - and who completely missed (ignored?) the Madoff Ponzi scheme for years, is now an economics expert? He promoted wiretaps of internet and cell phone calls - generating 30% of the nation's wiretaps in NY alone - and was stupid enough to use phones and wire $80,000 that we know of to The Emperors Club, but he's Mr. Know-It-All now?

He hyped up his political profile with Wall St and Mafia busts, but that hardly makes him a pro on matters of international finance (other than the international Emperors Club).

I've been wondering: Can investment houses just up and move their corporate offices to the United Arab Emirates like Cheney's Halliburton did, and keep their "USA" privileges? Can they/did they threaten to take their business to the Middle East and promote the dinar over the dollar? There are any number of ways these investment houses could maim the US in this global economy. I look forward to finding out just what was at play here when both Bush and Obama felt so hamstrung that they gave in like they did to Sachs.
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ProAmericanLobbyist
06:26 PM on 11/23/2009
Eliot for President in 2012.

The Congress is on the Corporate take!

We the People need to throw the Corporate Controlled Congress out in 2010.
08:08 PM on 11/21/2009
Mr. Spitzer is right, and the other side is coasting on some assumptions that to throw trillions of the public's money at Wall Street and *not* ask for anything in return and insult to injury propose anodyne reform is responsible leadership. Very few problems are not going to get superficially better after throwing trillions of dollars at them, and this is just what we have now: a superficially overvalued Wall Street and finance sector that is still undermining the economy by refusing or being unable to lend. Unemployment is not a lagging indicator here. It is the canary in the coal mine.
01:19 PM on 11/21/2009
Don't blame Obama,
he's only the President . . .
and he REALLY hopes things will get better.
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AmericanLeslie
facts + comprehension x logic = great conversation
12:49 PM on 11/21/2009
Only in America can a leader be found to be a lying, disgraced, unethical and dishonorable sleezeball be given and job and a platform for criticizing someone else's efforts. Being white, male and well-connected helps. Some folks get so many chances while others get none.
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rukiddingmerightnow
06:24 PM on 11/22/2009
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11:01 AM on 11/21/2009
Take your tinfoil hat off Elliot. You probable want to audit the Fed too.
10:47 AM on 11/21/2009
it's too bad the only things recovering in this economy are the big banks & rich people, and the stock market
hat tip to http://financeopinionss.blogspot.com

what a joke
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MarsAmbassador
Per angusta ad augusta
08:11 PM on 11/20/2009
Eliot Spitzer is my favourite politician of the past 20 years. No lie. He cares, he has a backbone, he has all the right ideas and he's a fantastic speaker. He was taken down by Wall Street in that mess, no bones about it. They didn't call him the Sheriff of Wall Street for nothing. He was closing in on the web and they had him snuffed. All he did was have an affair. So did Vitter and Ensign and Sanford and you don't hear the hue and cry to have them removed from office like you did with Spitzer. Hypocritical right? You bet.
09:09 PM on 11/20/2009
Man of the people. 80 thousand spent on prostitutes that is traceable.
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Robert Cantor
I am a human being descended from a small group of
03:43 AM on 11/21/2009
so he's horny? so what? the Pope for President?
10:59 AM on 11/21/2009
Hank Greenberg and the Wall Street Mob used all their influence to take down Spitzer. Wall Street is a greedy dishonest cesspool. Spitzer would bring back a floodlight on this cesspool.

I hope Spitzer comes back and does to Greenberg and the Wall Street Mob what Guiliani did to the Cosa Nostra.
05:19 PM on 11/20/2009
This man had some problems at home, made mistakes, but overcame them. he worked things out with his wife, who still stands by him, saved his family that includes his lovely daughters. He had the class not to drag his personal problems into his office, end of story.

He accurately predicted the serious downfall of our economy and tried to highlight serious problems created by lenders in the subprime market, but was silenced quickly by the Bush administration.

This man needs to be heard, and like Howard Dean, Obama would be smart to have him with his serious advisers, instead of being at odds with him.

What's the matter with Obama? I love the guy, but I thought he was a smart, serious player when it came to these urgent issues in finance. he's proving to be quite a dummy about them, like Bush.
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09:03 PM on 11/20/2009
Yep. Really classy moves to illegally wire $80,000 dollars to prostitutes (that we know about) while prosecuting prostitutes.

This guy is a loser.

His "crusade" on Wall Street was self serving at best.
11:00 PM on 11/19/2009
Umm....did you really need to hear somebody say it...isn't it obvious?
10:51 PM on 11/19/2009
Do you Obama lovers really need to be told this?

Are you that out of it?
09:20 PM on 11/19/2009
Hey Elliot supporters, let's compare Bush's regulatory reforms with Obama's.

Bring it.
12:11 AM on 11/20/2009
No takers.

Obama this; Obama that, your big dope just claimed that Obama is a continuation of Bush, so surely you have some examples of Bush's proposed regulatory reform that we can compare with Obama's.

I mean, Eliot does know what he's talking about, right?

He would be making totally unsupportable claims, would he?
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TheBaffler
a long the riverrun
06:30 AM on 11/20/2009
Neither one was for regulatory reform, thus proving Spitzer's point. What's your point.
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vorpalmusic
12:02 PM on 11/20/2009
I answered you four times, none of them got through.

Obama and Bush are both anti-regulation. If you were paying any attention, you wouldn't be standing here crying for someone to explain it to you.
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vorpalmusic
10:27 AM on 11/20/2009
They both are against reform. That's why they are comparable. Do you even know what you're talking about?
09:10 PM on 11/19/2009
This guy prosecuted prostitutes while he was patronizing them.

This guy prosecuted Wall Street while..............

You really think he's credible to go after Wall Street?
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ncmom54
10:54 PM on 11/19/2009
Yes
12:25 PM on 11/20/2009
yes
08:36 PM on 11/19/2009
The bailout didn't save our economy, it merely kept some ofthe biggest dealers of money in business,and prevented or at least delayed a depression. A President has little effect on the economy, and therefore cannot really lead it in the right direction.

The real leader of the economy of course is the market. If all of us want nicer cars made in Germany or Japan, are we gonna think "How many American companies depend on my purchase in order to pay Americans?" America WAS the economy in the 40's while others were either not modernized yet, or rebuilding after we blew them up. Wehad a head start and countries bought our nice products.
Here's the dilemma, some genius realized people in other countries will work for less, and with the word "profit" in mind, said "I'd be dumb not to." Consumers were quickly learning that American isn't always the best and found the hidden gems like Honda. Now wedon't buy American products because they are often lower quality and sometimes more expensive, andif we do, they use foreign labor.
It's not Barack's fault. All he could do is educate the public on the issue, which he was through address (something Bush avoided until it was unconcealed, and kind of embarrassing.) If we want money in America weneed to build jobs in America, we need to end dependence on foreign labor and products. We needto induce hard tariffs on any product that is foreign made.
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09:05 PM on 11/19/2009
Obama is doing his dardest to prevent the collapse of the Great American Ponzi Scam. Nothing more, nothing less, not on his watch. It IS his fault for protecting Too Big Too Fail.
10:45 AM on 11/20/2009
Tariffs are not an effective answer, and will only hurt the American economy more in the long run. Like it or hate it, we are in a global economy, and an action like high tariffs will only create backlash. The best way for a global economy to work is without tariffs and subsidies, but instead with a strong international governing body that regulates monopolies. Spitzer is right, our government should stop "too big to fail" from happening. But it will take more than simply the US government stepping up. The world has to respond and say that basing our global economy on a few huge monopolies is not an option.
09:09 PM on 11/20/2009
" The best way for a global economy to work is without tariffs and subsidies, but instead with a strong international governing body that regulates monopolies. "

This is a lovely idea, but not rooted in reality. Do you think that the Chinese will readily submit to a new International governing body, telling them that they must no longer artificially deflate their currency? Will all of the countries comply with a common Worker Rights Standard? This runs counter to human nature as it exists presently.

There is a reason for a certain level of Nationalism, and indeed Protectionism.
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sarabono
Oldie but Goody
07:21 PM on 11/19/2009
Turn this guy off..........He is soooooo last century...........A real dork!