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Senate Health Care Vote Saturday

AP/ The Huffington Post   First Posted: 3/18/10 Updated: 5/25/11

Health Care Overhaul

WASHINGTON — Democratic leaders secured the last two votes to move ahead on historic health care legislation, clearing the way for a Saturday night showdown on President Barack Obama's top domestic initiative.

In long-awaited speeches, centrist Sens. Blanche Lincoln of Arkansas and Mary Landrieu of Louisiana said they would stand with their party and vote "yes" on the crucial test vote despite deep reservations with elements of the 2,074-page bill to remake the nation's health care system.

"The truth is this issue is very complex. There is no easy fix and it's imperative that we build on what's already working in health care in America," Lincoln told her Senate colleagues.

Hours earlier, Landrieu had delivered her news. The two represent votes 59 and 60 for Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., who needs that many in the 100-member Senate to go forward. The Senate's 40 Republicans are unanimously opposed.

"That was the easy part. Now it's only going to get tougher from here on out," Reid's spokesman Jim Manley told The Huffington Post.

"I've decided that there are enough significant reforms and safeguards in this bill to move forward, but much more work needs to be done," Landrieu said, with the 8 p.m. EST vote looming.

Most everyone would be required to purchase insurance under Reid's legislation, and billions in new taxes would be levied on insurers and high-income Americans to help extend coverage to 30 million uninsured. Insurance companies would no longer be allowed to deny coverage to people with medical conditions or drop coverage when someone gets sick.

A largely overlooked provision in the Senate bill would send $100 million to Louisiana to help it cover costs for Medicaid, the federal-state health care program for the poor. In her speech, Landrieu rejected the notion that she was voting to advance the bill simply because of the money.

"I am not going to be defensive about asking for help in this situation," she said, recalling the devastation inflicted on her state by Hurricane Katrina in 2005 and her Republican governor's support for the provision. "I'm proud to have asked for it. I'm proud to have fought for it. And I will continue to."

During earlier debate on the bill, Democrats called a revamp of the nation's health care system long overdue.

"The country suffers when there is a failure to act on serious challenges that millions of ordinary Americans face in their daily lives," Sen. Patrick Leahy, D-Vt., said during the rare weekend session.

United in opposition, Republicans cast the bill as a costly government takeover, built on budget gimmicks.

"Move over, Bernie Madoff. Tip your hat to a trillion-dollar scam," said Sen. Kit Bond, R-Mo., referring to the mastermind of a multibillion-dollar Ponzi scheme.

Most everyone would be required to purchase insurance under Reid's legislation, and billions in new taxes would be levied on insurers and high-income Americans to help extend coverage to 30 million uninsured. Insurance companies would no longer be allowed to deny coverage to people with medical conditions or drop coverage when someone gets sick.

The action in the Senate comes two weeks after the House approved a health overhaul bill of its own on a 220-215 vote. After the vote Saturday night, senators will leave for a Thanksgiving recess. Upon their return, assuming Democrats prevail on the vote, they will launch into weeks or more of unpredictable debate on the health care bill, with numerous amendments expected from both sides of the aisle and more 60-vote hurdles along the way.

Senate leaders hope to pass their bill by the end of the year. If that happens, January would bring work to reconcile the House and Senate versions before a final package could land on Obama's desk.

The bills have many similarities, including the new requirements on insurers and the creation of new purchasing marketplaces called exchanges where self-employed individuals and small businesses could go to shop for and compare coverage plans. One option in the exchanges would be a new government-offered plan, something that's opposed by private insurers and business groups.

Differences include requirements for employers. The House bill would require medium and large businesses to cover their employees, while the Senate bill would not require them to offer coverage but would make them pay a fee if the government ends up subsidizing employees' coverage.

Another difference is in how they're paid for. The Senate bill includes a tax on high-value insurance policies that's not part of the House bill, while the House would levy a new income tax on upper-income Americans that's not in the Senate measure. The Senate measure also raises the Medicare payroll tax on income above $200,000 annually for individuals and $250,000 for couples. Both bills rely on more than $400 billion in cuts to Medicare.

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WASHINGTON — Democratic leaders secured the last two votes to move ahead on historic health care legislation, clearing the way for a Saturday night showdown on President Barack Obama's top domes...
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10:12 AM on 11/23/2009
Think twice about depending upon a government plan my friend. According to AMA’s National Health Insurance Report Card, Medicare denies 6.85 percent of its claims, higher than any private insurer (Aetna was second, denying 6.80 percent of its claims), and more than double any private insurer’s average.
04:17 PM on 11/23/2009
Yes and I'm sure the seniors with it will B knocking down the Senate doors to give it up?Try again please?
07:55 AM on 11/24/2009
Huh? Put the bong down and pay attention. Medicare is something that seniors have paid into through taxes on their income, and as such it has become an entitlemen­t. I can understand that you wouldn't know that since you don't have a job. No senior wants medicare taken away since most have paid into the system their whole lives.
Please post when you are not impaired.
12:29 AM on 11/25/2009
whatever - go jump in a lake
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05:10 PM on 11/22/2009
Tales from the Dark side:

(VERY Dark side).... OMG scary people... all encouraged and condoned by their host Hannity...

http://for­ums.hannit­y.com/show­thread.php­?t=1731851
http://for­ums.hannit­y.com/show­thread.php­?t=1733071
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Digeeedad
05:19 PM on 11/22/2009
Posters on the Hannity forum are vowing to refuse to pay taxes, shut down the nation, lay off employees in protest, many have purchased additional firearms since yesterday etc. You would think by reading these posts that civil war is close at hand! LOLOL
11:30 PM on 11/22/2009
They need to stop bluffing and do it. Let's just get right to the kernel of the hypocrisy-­Cons want to secede-the­n do it already or shut up-shut Up.

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01:00 PM on 11/22/2009
Ouch! How's the political hang-over going from last night. My ears are still ringing from the music.

I see that it's duck season, no rabbit season, duck season, rabbit season....

T R O L L season!
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luckincan
Somebody prove the magic dude in the sky exists!
03:43 PM on 11/22/2009
Hahahahha.­...Tis the season..
11:35 AM on 11/22/2009
Today you can watch two of my videos about Tea in INDIA : http://www­.the-tea-s­et.com/ind­ex.php/blo­g/THE-TEA-­SET-BLOG23­/
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Marcospinelli
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10:52 AM on 11/22/2009
""The truth is this issue is very complex. There is no easy fix and it's imperative that we build on what's already working in health care in America," Lincoln told her Senate colleagues­."
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This issue isn't very complex. Thirty-fiv­e out of thirty-eig­ht industrial­ized nations have achieved universal health care, medical care of all of people within their borders by recognizin­g that medical care can't be for-profit­.

The fix is only difficult if you're trying to preserve a corrupt, broken system and protect the private insurance and pharmaceut­ical industries­.

We're a nation of 300 million, and poll after poll shows that Americans want public health care, Medicare For All, and not an employer-b­ased insurance system that feeds off of denying our medical claims. How much longer are we going to let 100 people in the US senate and 435 in the house overturn block the will of the People and the outcome of the election?
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01:37 PM on 11/22/2009
Fanned and faved. Thank you, Marcos.
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Digeeedad
05:14 PM on 11/22/2009
And to hear the GOP and Conservati­ves explain it.... they believe this means the END of our nation as we knew it.... nothing but an Obama plot to destroy us LOLOLOL

Check out what Hannity's followers are suggesting­.... civil disobedien­ce, refusal to pay taxes, closing businesses etc...
http://for­ums.hannit­y.com/show­thread.php­?t=1731851
09:59 AM on 11/22/2009
Joblessnes­s rose in 29 U.S. states last month compared with 22 in September, the Labor Department said today in Washington­. Michigan had the highest jobless rate at 15.1 percent, followed by Nevada at 13 percent and Rhode Island at 12.9 percent.

http://www­.bloomberg­.com/apps/­news?pid=2­0601087&si­d=aQsHAD0w­1egE

And this budget busting health care plan loaded with pork bribes for the likes of Mary Landreau and Blanche Lincoln will just make things worse. Watch out for 20% Michigan it's on the way.
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'ello Duckies :)
10:03 AM on 11/22/2009
Michigan ADDED 39,000 jobs in October. The very first time in 8 years. Non Farm, Non Gov jobs.

When MI comes back, the Nation will follow.
10:19 AM on 11/22/2009
Michigan ain't coming back my friend. 15.1% unemployme­nt says it all. Michigan needs to totally revamp its economy away from reliance on automobile manufactur­ing. The current "leadershi­p" which owned by the unions will never do that. You voted the wrong way.
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Patriot86
Compassion is the basis of all morality.
11:03 AM on 11/22/2009
You forget who began this depression / recession. Millions out of work, we have to have some sort of heath care now.
09:44 AM on 11/22/2009
Talking about Faux News..Pres­ident Obama on Friday hailed the “amazing growth” in phony stimulus jobs, especially from nonexisten­t congressio­nal districts, as a “sure sign that we’re seeing a make-belie­ve recovery and an encouragin­g spurt in faux GDP.” This is perfect for AMessNBC chief democratic propagandi­st, Keith "For this Relief Much Thanks" Olbermann.

http://www­.bloomberg­.com/apps/­news?pid=2­0601087&si­d=aQsHAD0w­1egE
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obama20082012
check yo self before you wreck yo self
09:50 AM on 11/22/2009
Do you have so little to add to the conversati­on, that you have to repeat yourself?
09:53 AM on 11/22/2009
No I wanted to reply to nit.wits like you where you'd see it rather than on page 100. Thanks for doing the expected.
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Liberals rock!
10:07 AM on 11/22/2009
Hi Obama20082­012: disregard this rude guy (see below)...y­ou're much smarter and much more popular!
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12:32 PM on 11/22/2009
Same
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Yes "you" can. BO2012
07:19 AM on 11/22/2009
GObama! Change I am seeing
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Beachchick
Dignity is not negotiable
02:54 AM on 11/22/2009
"You might be a Republican if you've ever used the adjective "arrogant" to describe an inanimate object."
--EP
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02:58 AM on 11/22/2009
Nice! I should be getting a check in the mail soon? j/k =)

It took me a moment or two to come up with that.. As soon as I realized I could make the unicode symbol my mind went blank. Go figure. lol
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EconPadawan
Too short for a stormtrooper. Too tall for a ewok.
03:01 AM on 11/22/2009
Is it me or did this thread just come to a screeching halt?
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obama20082012
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02:51 AM on 11/22/2009
Again tata all!

☺
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02:53 AM on 11/22/2009
good night.
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Too short for a stormtrooper. Too tall for a ewok.
02:54 AM on 11/22/2009
Bye now. Yall come back now ya hear?
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Beachchick
Dignity is not negotiable
02:50 AM on 11/22/2009
"You've ever used the adjective "arrogant" to describe an inanimate object"
--EconPada­wan
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Beachchick
Dignity is not negotiable
02:51 AM on 11/22/2009
hahaha

I screwed that up, sorry EP. I'll try again.
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EconPadawan
Too short for a stormtrooper. Too tall for a ewok.
02:53 AM on 11/22/2009
No worries. I forgot to specify how much I'm supposed to get. =(
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Beachchick
Dignity is not negotiable
02:53 AM on 11/22/2009
I messed that up, sorry EP. I'll try again. ;-P
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02:49 AM on 11/22/2009
I'm turning in too peeps. Keep it real, keep it good, but keep it really good!

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EconPadawan
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03:07 AM on 11/22/2009
Take care SpinDown!
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obama20082012
check yo self before you wreck yo self
02:49 AM on 11/22/2009
escribacat I'm a Fan of escribacat I'm a fan of this user 294 fans permalink Wonder why. He just said Flossy/Gri­ngo/AC made him mad.

He got caught up in the moment, and I think he felt he could get away from it. How can I judge someone for doing something s.tupid...­........gi­ve me 5 minutes and I am sure I will!
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EconPadawan
Too short for a stormtrooper. Too tall for a ewok.
02:47 AM on 11/22/2009
You might be a Republican if....

You've ever used the adjective "arrogant" to describe an inanimate object. â’¸

You see that folks? The C symbol means it's copyrighte­d. From now on you must pay me royalties if you use that joke. Mwahahahah­aha! =)
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Beachchick
Dignity is not negotiable
02:49 AM on 11/22/2009
LMAO!

You rock, EP
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EconPadawan
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02:50 AM on 11/22/2009
Thank you Beachchick­! I am humbled by your response. =)
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obama20082012
check yo self before you wreck yo self
02:50 AM on 11/22/2009
LOL. I thought the use of the word was weak, way weak......­......
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obama20082012
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02:41 AM on 11/22/2009
Well it's been a great night everyone, thank you for the laughs and the new fans, and the unicode symbols...­........ti­me to get some rest! ☺♥☺
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02:42 AM on 11/22/2009
Good night, Graba.
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EconPadawan
Too short for a stormtrooper. Too tall for a ewok.
02:43 AM on 11/22/2009
Take care now. Bye bye then... =)