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Lieberman: 'I Don't Think Anybody Thinks This Bill Will Pass'

First Posted: 3/18/10 Updated: 5/25/11

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Senator Joseph Lieberman (I-Conn.), reaffirmed on Sunday that he will support a Republican filibuster of any health care bill that includes a government-run insurance option.

Appearing on the "Meet the Press," the Connecticut independent said that neither he, nor anybody else believed the current version of legislation will get the 60 votes needed to stop debate in the Senate.

"I voted last night as 59 others did to go ahead with the debate because I want us to begin not only debating health care reform but doing something about health care reform," Lieberman said. "But I don't think anybody feels this bill, as Senator Reid put it down -- though he made a lot of progress blending bills together -- I don't think anybody thinks this bill will pass."

Digging a bit deeper, the senator explained what exactly he found so offensive about a government-run plan.

I don't want to fix the problems in our health care system in a way that creates more of an economic crisis, either short-term to inhibit businesses from hiring more people, creating jobs, or long-term to add to the debt. And I'm convinced the public option, a government-run insurance company, basically people don't understand what it's going to do. It doesn't offer free insurance. It won't get one more poor person insurance. It won't force one insurance company to give insurance to somebody who has got a pre-existing condition. It won't even lower the cost of health insurance, which advocates said originally it would because the Congressional Budget Office has now said to us the public option in Senator Reid's bill will actually charge more for insurance than the average charge by health insurance companies. I'll tell you one thing I'm sure it will do, if we create a government insurance company, it's going to run a deficit and it's only the taxpayers that are going to pay for it. I don't want to do that.

Lieberman is offering a deeply cynical reading of the legislation. The restrictions on who can access the public plan, for instance, were put into the bill as a way to placate members of Congress like himself, who were worried about legislation sapping the private market. And the reason the public plan may charge higher premiums is due, in part, to the fact that it will have to pay negotiated rates to providers instead of a fee tied to Medicare rates. This too was added to placate conservative Democratic lawmakers. If Lieberman finds these provisions objectionable, he should be directing his opposition at his fellow centrists. Instead, he's targeting the bill itself.

"[O]nce the bill is on the floor, amendments will be offered," he said on Sunday. "But essentially every amendment is subject to a filibuster and will take 60 votes to pass. My only resort, and every other senator -- and there will be others who feel exactly the way I do about the public option, if the public option is still in there -- the only resort we have is to say no at the end to reporting the bill off the floor."


In stating his willingness to support a Republican filibuster, Lieberman joins three centrist Democrats who could potentially trip up health care reform. Sens. Mary Landrieu of Louisiana, Blanche Lincoln of Arkansas, and Ben Nelson of Nebraska have likewise threatened to derail a bill unless major changes are made, specifically with regards to the public option.

Addressing these holdouts on Sunday, Sen. Sherrod Brown (D-Ohio), a government-run plan proponent, argued that it was unfair for four senators to have more sway than their 56 colleagues.

"I don't think they want to be on the wrong side of history," Brown told CNN's "State of the Union." "I don't think they want to say, 'On a procedural vote, I killed the most important bill of my career.'"


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Senator Joseph Lieberman (I-Conn.), reaffirmed on Sunday that he will support a Republican filibuster of any health care bill that includes a government-run insurance option. Appearing on the "Meet...
Senator Joseph Lieberman (I-Conn.), reaffirmed on Sunday that he will support a Republican filibuster of any health care bill that includes a government-run insurance option. Appearing on the "Meet...
 
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07:53 AM on 12/02/2009
what is wrong with this man joe lieberman why is he so against Obama's plan to reform the Health care bill. This health bill could save many lives and improve the American health care systme so much , i mean with illnesses like cancer and AIDS it could do so much to help people with cancer and AIDS and ultimatelt­y give a chance to poorer families in america a chance to have better and improved health care. The only reason that i personally can come up with as to why Lieberman is against Obama's plan is that he doesn't and will never like him as the president of the USA, i mean get over it, he was elected democratic­ally if you wanted McCain to be the president then he shoud've got more votes and then you could do something about the health care bill. Stop being a child and forget about your grudge with Obama and give him a chance , he's not even been office for a year yet.

Cheers America

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Lahonda
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12:06 AM on 12/01/2009
Say goodbye, Joe. Ain't no reason to hang around.

Your work here is done.

Been a slice...
03:00 PM on 11/24/2009
Oddly enough I agree with Lieberman on the public option being weak and uncompetit­ive, however he failed to note why the public option is so weak and uncompetit­ive. Competitiv­e steps that could have been taken have been ruled out to appease the lobby/Repu­blican party.

Also, this health care bill is not addressing the root problem 'pay-per-s­ervice'. The Democrats are going to lose big in the next election health care bill or no, they have shown that they are not willing to fight for their ideals or supporters­. In turn their supporters are not going to fight for them.
07:56 AM on 12/02/2009
If they don't do something about it now they never will this i mean come on Lieberman this is America the biggest superpower of them all get a grip and support Obama with the bill and last but not least what is Libermans plan for the health care bill, what would he do?
12:16 PM on 12/02/2009
Never? That's not true, if they let it get much worse they will get a much more liberal solution eventually­. This country doesn't seem to be able to do anything unless it's in a crisis or it is just strong armed into action.

That said the president addressed your point: lets not let perfection stand in the way of action.
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01:34 PM on 11/24/2009
Why with the rush. Well I think in 2010 Democrats will be begging for Lieberman'­s support. The Dems have been running the show since 2006 and they made the same promises so how come nobody is upset about what they haven't done in the past four years? Dems, like the Repubs, are so slow in making improvemen­ts to our system. Where is the change we can believe it going to happen. Forget about health care and get Americans their jobs back Obama!
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10:39 AM on 11/24/2009
Lieberman will vote for the bill, public option and all, because to do otherwise would be to burn his last bridge with Democrats.

If Lieberman sabotages the center piece of Obama's agenda, then Reid would be a fool not to boot him out of the party and strip him of his seniority. Without that HS Chair, Lieberman will have a hard time getting the graft he needs to stay in office.
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09:48 AM on 11/24/2009
At the news of the bill being passed by 60/39 and made its way to the Senate floor for debate. Some foreign journalist­s following the news remarked to just see the dejected face of a congressma­n looking like a beaten snake.

They said he looks so morose as if his very near and dear one expired. Political analysts questioned if this gentleman ever liked the Nation's well-being other then towing the chain of AIPAC’s agenda of controllin­g America.

Some eminent political analysts opined if this gentleman at all should be allowed to go Scot free without a thorough inquiry of his past activities as a lawmaker and if he has assets made beyond known source of income, should be probed into and severe action taken against him with fail if found guilty of any offense.

They added if a hypocrite and a double crosser like him is not sufficient­ly dangerous not for his loyalty to the party but to the Nation. They wanted to if his recent past activities as a congressma­n has not been anti people and also anti state trying to cross the limit in favor of a foreign country. They add J street people may throw light on his and AIPAC's activities­.
09:39 AM on 11/24/2009
Has anyone asked Lieberman,
how he can support USA's subsidy
of Israel's PUBLIC health care system
and oppose same for Americans?
08:50 AM on 11/24/2009
A voice of sanity on the left. Who'da' thunk. Keep pushing this guys. At this rate, there'll be GOP supermajor­ities by January of 2011.
06:02 AM on 11/24/2009
I repeat: In Senator Droopy Dawg's beloved Israel, Healthcare is universal. And he'd never, ever speak out against it.
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01:40 AM on 11/24/2009
Is he trying out for the lead in "Deputy Dawg" ?
11:30 PM on 11/23/2009
He's more like one of Rodney Dangerfiel­d's jokes. " I get no respect . I got on an elevator the other day & the elevator operator looked at me & said, Basement ? "
11:26 PM on 11/23/2009
Henny Youngman he ain't !
11:23 PM on 11/23/2009
Lieberman reminds me of an aging Borscht Belt comedian whose Shtick is also getting old .
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wethepeople3884
10:43 PM on 11/23/2009
At this point, if leiberman supports a bill. I would vehemently oppose it on the mere principal that i hate this man's guts and would gladly go to washington to physically remove him from his chairmansh­ip and from the senate in general. He should be impeached. CT should demand a resignatio­n on behalf of the voters of his state.
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wethepeople3884
10:41 PM on 11/23/2009
And its because of you, you @$$!