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California Divorce Ban Movement Underway, Led By John Marcotte

JUDY LIN | 11/30/09 04:33 PM | AP

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SACRAMENTO, Calif. — Til death do us part? The vow would really hold true in California if a Sacramento Web designer gets his way.

In a movement that seems ripped from the pages of Comedy Channel writers, John Marcotte wants to put a measure on the ballot next year to ban divorce in California.

The effort is meant to be a satirical statement after California voters outlawed gay marriage in 2008, largely on the argument that a ban is needed to protect the sanctity of traditional marriage. If that's the case, then Marcotte reasons voters should have no problem banning divorce.

"Since California has decided to protect traditional marriage, I think it would be hypocritical of us not to sacrifice some of our own rights to protect traditional marriage even more," the 38-year-old married father of two said.

Marcotte said he has collected dozens of signatures, including one from his wife of seven years. The initiative's Facebook fans have swelled to more than 11,000. Volunteers that include gay activists and members of a local comedy troupe have signed on to help.

Marcotte is looking into whether he can gather signatures online, as proponents are doing for another proposed 2010 initiative to repeal the gay marriage ban. But the odds are stacked against a campaign funded primarily by the sale of $12 T-shirts featuring bride and groom stick figures chained at the wrists.

Marcotte needs 694,354 valid signatures by March 22, a high hurdle in a state where the typical petition drive costs millions of dollars. Even if his proposed constitutional amendment made next year's ballot, it's not clear how voters would react.

Nationwide, about half of all marriages end in divorce.

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Not surprisingly, Marcotte's campaign to make divorce in California illegal has divided those involved in last year's campaign for and against Proposition 8.

As much as everyone would like to see fewer divorces, making it illegal would be "impractical," said Ron Prentice, the executive director of the California Family Council who led a coalition of religious and conservative groups to qualify Proposition 8.

No other state bans divorce, and only a few countries, including the Philippines and Malta, do. The Roman Catholic Church also prohibits divorce but allows annulments. The California proposal would amend the state constitution to eliminate the ability of married couples to get divorced while allowing married couples to seek an annulment.

Prentice said proponents of traditional marriage only seek to strengthen the one man-one woman union.

"That's where our intention begins and ends," he said.

Jeffrey Taylor, a spokesman for Restore Equality 2010, a coalition of same-sex marriage activists seeking to repeal Proposition 8, said the coalition supports Marcotte's message but has no plans to join forces with him.

"We find it quite hilarious," Taylor said of the initiative.

Marcotte, who runs the comedy site BadMouth.net in his spare time, said he has received support from across the political spectrum. In addition to encouragement from gay marriage advocates, he has been interviewed by American Family Association, a Mississippi-based organization that contributed to last year's Yes on 8 campaign.

He was mentioned by Keith Olbermann on MSNBC's "Countdown" during his "World's Best Persons" segment for giving supporters of Proposition 8 their "comeuppance in California."

Marcotte, who is Catholic and voted against Proposition 8, views himself as an accidental activist. A registered Democrat, he led a "ban divorce" rally recently at the state Capitol in Sacramento to launch his effort and was pleasantly surprised at the turnout. About 50 people showed up, some holding signs that read, "You too can vote to take away civil rights from someone."

Marcotte stopped dozens of people during another signature drive in downtown Sacramento. Among them was Ryan Platt, 32, who said he signed the petition in support of his lesbian sister, even though he thinks it would be overturned if voters approved it.

"Even if by some miracle this did pass, it would never stand up to the federal government," Platt said. "And if it did, there's something really wrong with America."

Other petition signers said they were motivated by a sincere interest to preserve marriages. One was Ervin Hulton, a 47-year-old dishwasher who said he believes in making it harder for couples to separate.

"The way I feel, why go out and spend all these tons of money for marriage, the photography and all that? And along down the line, it's going to shatter," said Hulton, who is single.

The U.S. divorce rate is 47.9 percent, according to data provided by the National Center for Health Statistics reports. That figure, however, does not include California, Georgia, Hawaii, Indiana, Louisiana and Minnesota because those six states no longer report their divorce rates to the center.

California stopped because of budget problems, said Ralph Montano, a spokesman for the California Department of Public Health.

While most people would not support banning divorce, it does make sense for couples to be educated about the financial and emotional commitments of marriage, said Dan Couvrette, chief executive and publisher of Toronto-based Divorce Magazine. The publication has a circulation of 140,000, including a regional edition in Southern California.

"It's a worthwhile conversation to have," said Couvrette, who started the magazine in 1996 after going through his own divorce. "I don't think it's just a frivolous thought."

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On the Web:

2010 California Marriage Protection Act: http://www.rescuemarriage.org

SACRAMENTO, Calif. — Til death do us part? The vow would really hold true in California if a Sacramento Web designer gets his way. In a movement that seems ripped from the pages of Comedy Chann...
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- fcsakes I'm a Fan of fcsakes 124 fans permalink
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Just what the hell is the "sanctity of marriage" anyway?

    Reply     Favorite     Flag as abusive Posted 09:08 AM on 1/21/2010
- Dolmance I'm a Fan of Dolmance 35 fans permalink
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The allegiance of these people is to an America that only exists in their imaginations. The America that is, is something they consider an abomination in the sight of God.

They're quick to call anyone who doesn't agree with their attempts to make religion the law of the land, but there's nothing in the Constitution or the Bill of Rights (except for the right to bear arms) that they wouldn't do away with in a heartbeat.

    Reply     Favorite     Flag as abusive Posted 09:55 PM on 12/01/2009
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NEW LAW: People should have to get divorced the same way they get married, but in reverse. Same fees. Same venue. Same party. Same guests, etc... Down the line. That would definitely rein in both those ostentatious weddings and those pesky divorces!

    Reply     Favorite     Flag as abusive Posted 06:29 PM on 12/01/2009
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The prop system must go.

    Reply     Favorite     Flag as abusive Posted 06:02 PM on 12/01/2009
- TeeLolly I'm a Fan of TeeLolly 64 fans permalink

Banning divorce and keeping married couples together (absent grounds for an annulment) seems to be much more narrowly targeted and much better suited to strengthening heterosexual marriages than prohibiting non-heterosexuals from marrying. It is sheer hypocrisy to support Prop 8 but not a ban on divorce ...

    Reply     Favorite     Flag as abusive Posted 05:51 PM on 12/01/2009
- Wombaticus I'm a Fan of Wombaticus 45 fans permalink
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A serious proposition would be to separate Church and State for marriage.

State obligations: ONLY provides a legal Domestic Partner contract for EVERY couple. This would be mandatory in order to have the couple legally connected. No contract, no legal standing.

Church: Purely optional spiritual union according to whatever the individual church and couple decides to do. Has NO legal standing at all.

This seems so obvious, I cannot understand why it is not already the way we do things.

    Reply     Favorite     Flag as abusive Posted 05:48 PM on 12/01/2009
- dctackett I'm a Fan of dctackett 9 fans permalink

I don't know about other states, but in California, marriages are legal, not religious... they have nothing to do with churches, other than some people performing their ceremony in one...

    Reply     Favorite     Flag as abusive Posted 06:07 PM on 12/01/2009
- Epiphany2b I'm a Fan of Epiphany2b 22 fans permalink
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Would marriage still be considered sacred? A ridiculous appellation, by the way. Why give the definition of "holy" and "worthy of respect" to a state of being that 50% of the people involved in want out of? I agree with you. It makes sense.

    Reply     Favorite     Flag as abusive Posted 06:15 PM on 12/01/2009
- Wombaticus I'm a Fan of Wombaticus 45 fans permalink
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in my 'plan', government has nothing to do with the sacred spiritual ceremony of marriage, but only issues legal contracts called Domestic Partnership.

The two are completely separated. IMO the current difficulties arise from the combination of the spiritual and legal. This would solve that.

    Reply     Favorite     Flag as abusive Posted 12:22 PM on 12/02/2009
- Subversive I'm a Fan of Subversive 16 fans permalink

Ummmm, ain't the best way to "ban divorce" just to "ban marriage?" Boy, if Californication did that, its population would swell by the millions every year!

    Reply     Favorite     Flag as abusive Posted 04:42 PM on 12/01/2009
- dctackett I'm a Fan of dctackett 9 fans permalink

the population DOES swell by the millions every year.

    Reply     Favorite     Flag as abusive Posted 06:07 PM on 12/01/2009
- Ben Chiaramonte I'm a Fan of Ben Chiaramonte 44 fans permalink
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Very interesting

    Reply     Favorite     Flag as abusive Posted 04:18 PM on 12/01/2009
- KingCujo I'm a Fan of KingCujo 22 fans permalink
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I hope this does pass because of the hypocracy of protecting the sanctity of marriage.

    Reply     Favorite     Flag as abusive Posted 04:08 PM on 12/01/2009
- markinaz I'm a Fan of markinaz 10 fans permalink

Great idea, but it will never pass. Too many hypocrites out there.

    Reply     Favorite     Flag as abusive Posted 03:27 PM on 12/01/2009
- BoyInBOYCOTT I'm a Fan of BoyInBOYCOTT 112 fans permalink
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I think the better idea would be to BAN any divorced person from serving public office, or having security clearance.

Come on all you bat sh*t crazy Save Marriage folks...try telling heterosexuals how THEY need to live THEIR lives.

    Reply     Favorite     Flag as abusive Posted 03:17 PM on 12/01/2009
- PhilipB I'm a Fan of PhilipB 123 fans permalink

I love that. Tell it like it is. Better yet, re-create the reality that gay people have had to live with for those who have worked to take away rights from "those people": Gay tax paying citizens.
Frankly, I have had it with the hate leveled at good people. If there are some who think that gay people threaten marriage, then I say "stick it to them" see how the blurring of the church and state affects their lives.
Now, I know many would say this is not "reasonable" and I agree! It is completely un-reasonable and unconstitutional and that is the exquisite beauty of it.
I like it a lot.

    Reply     Favorite     Flag as abusive Posted 12:03 AM on 12/02/2009
- Pansey I'm a Fan of Pansey 15 fans permalink

I just love American ingenuity - this guy is a gem.

    Reply     Favorite     Flag as abusive Posted 03:07 PM on 12/01/2009
- PunKinPai I'm a Fan of PunKinPai 33 fans permalink
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Now I'm worried that enough people will miss the satirical part and pass this thing!

    Reply     Favorite     Flag as abusive Posted 03:05 PM on 12/01/2009
- AJH I'm a Fan of AJH 20 fans permalink

Agreed, A constitution should not be for political games. The consequences of our societies puritan heritage could easily become scripture err I mean law. And really that should be more of our puritan heritage.

    Reply     Favorite     Flag as abusive Posted 03:17 PM on 12/01/2009
- Epiphany2b I'm a Fan of Epiphany2b 22 fans permalink
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Explain to me again what the constitution has to do with divorce?

    Reply     Favorite     Flag as abusive Posted 06:16 PM on 12/01/2009
- dctackett I'm a Fan of dctackett 9 fans permalink

it won't pass, but hopefully it gets a lot of publicity with explanations for the dumbies... they are the ones, after all, that need to learn from it.

    Reply     Favorite     Flag as abusive Posted 06:09 PM on 12/01/2009
- LinLin16 I'm a Fan of LinLin16 4 fans permalink

This is HILARIOUS!!! I just love California liberals. witty bunch.

    Reply     Favorite     Flag as abusive Posted 02:46 PM on 12/01/2009
- bongstradamus I'm a Fan of bongstradamus 18 fans permalink

Yes, we're quite amused with ourselves too. Wanna buy some pot?

California: It's the Weed!

    Reply     Favorite     Flag as abusive Posted 06:28 PM on 12/01/2009
- lvdragonlady I'm a Fan of lvdragonlady 37 fans permalink

Where do these people come from anyway?

    Reply     Favorite     Flag as abusive Posted 02:37 PM on 12/01/2009
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