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Gates: Afghanistan Failure Would Have 'Severe Consequences'

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ANNE FLAHERTY and PAULINE JELINEK   12/ 2/09 11:57 PM ET   AP

WASHINGTON — A deeply skeptical Congress on Wednesday resigned itself to President Barack Obama's escalation of the Afghanistan war, even as the president's chief military and diplomatic advisers sought to cool any expectations that the war would end in two years.

Leading Democrats said they had serious misgivings about the deployment of 30,000 more troops but would not try to block it – or the $30 billion it will cost. Republicans said they support the force increase even as they doubted Obama's July 2011 deadline to start bringing troops home.

The response was the best Obama could have hoped for from a Congress sharply divided on the war.

"It's not likely that there would be any circumstances where the president would lose this battle this year" with lawmakers, said Rep. John Murtha, a vocal war critic who oversees military spending.

In House and Senate hearings on Wednesday, Obama's advisers insisted the stakes were great. Defense Secretary Robert Gates said losing the war "would have severe consequences for the United States and the world," and warned of a deadly "symbiotic" relationship between the Taliban and al-Qaida terrorists.

The testimony was aimed at building support among war-weary lawmakers for Obama's dramatic expansion of the Afghanistan war. By the end of next summer, the president plans to increase to 100,000 the number of U.S. troops there, marking the largest expansion of the war since it began eight years ago.

Much of the congressional questioning focused on the July 2011 date when the surge would begin to ebb.

Gates, Adm. Mike Mullen, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, and Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton all sought to stress that the 18-month timeline would not constrain the military or encourage the Taliban.

The U.S. military will still have primary responsibility for fighting in Afghanistan for that period and perhaps far beyond. The Pentagon will use Obama's expansion of the U.S. fighting force to range farther and deeper into Taliban territory.

All the while, U.S. soldiers and Marines will prepare Afghan forces to take over more peaceful real estate ahead of the expected departure of some U.S. forces on the schedule Obama outlined in his speech Tuesday night.

With voter support of the war on the decline, Democrats sought assurances that Obama's target date to begin withdrawing troops was firm and that the focus would remain on training local security forces.

"It seems to me that the large influx of U.S. combat troops will put more U.S. Marines on street corners in Afghan villages, with too few Afghan partners alongside them," said Sen. Carl Levin, D-Mich., chairman of the Senate Armed Services Committee.

Gates suggested the July 2011 withdrawal date was both firm and flexible, frustrating lawmakers who said that wasn't possible.

When pressed, Gates said the beginning of drawing down troops would not necessarily be based on conditions in Afghanistan and that the president was committed to begin pulling at least some troops out by the target date.

At the same time, the president will have the authority to change gears after the Defense Department conducts a formal assessment in December 2010.

"We're not just going to throw these guys in the swimming pool and walk away," Gates said of the Afghan security force.

Republicans objected to the setting of a hard deadline for withdrawing troops and said Obama must be willing to delay the start of a pullout if security deteriorates.

"We don't want to sound an uncertain trumpet to our friends in the region," said John McCain, the Senate panel's top Republican and Obama's opponent in last year's presidential race.

Gates said the July 2011 date was chosen because it would give the Marines two years to complete a security push in Helmand province that began last July.

Added Clinton: "I do not believe we have locked ourselves into leaving. But what we have done ... is to signal very clearly to all audiences that the United States is not interested in occupying Afghanistan."

As part of a full-court press by the White House to make the case for Obama's new strategy, Gates, Clinton and Mullen argued for the troop increase. But they also were careful with their words so as not to aggravate divisions on the issue.

Clinton and Gates cast the war as serious but not hopeless. Mullen said the Taliban had regained ground in Afghanistan – gaining "dominant influence" in 11 of 34 provinces – but could be defeated with enough resources and time.

"While there are no guarantees in war, I expect that we will make significant headway in the next 18-24 months," he said.

Gates told lawmakers that the situation is far less dire than the violent chaos that gripped Iraq in 2006. Still, he said, "This will take more patience, perseverance and sacrifice by the United States and our allies."

The buildup also will put more strain on troops by giving them less time than hoped for at home.

Mullen said supplying the extra forces for Afghanistan while there are still so many troops in Iraq will mean putting off for a couple of years the goal of lengthening the time they rest and retrain at home between tours of duty – a period the military calls "dwell time." The Army had been moving toward giving two years of dwell time between each one-year tour.

After meeting Wednesday with Karzai, U.S. Gen. Stanley McChrystal called Karzai's reaction to the new U.S. strategy "really positive. The president was very upbeat, very resolute this morning."

NATO Secretary-General Anders Fogh Rasmussen said he expected the allies to bolster the American buildup with more than 5,000 additional troops.

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Associated Press writers Slobodan Lekic in Brussels, Heidi Vogt in Kabul and Pauline Jelinek and Stephen Ohlemacher in Washington contributed to this report.

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12:36 AM on 12/04/2009
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For the first time in the history of the Obama administration, he's actually pursued and achieved bi-partisanship. Both parties hate his Afghanistan "strategy"
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And his "strategy" is to repeat the failures of Vietnam. Obama is not interested in success, He's interested in exiting. Exiting without success will be Obama's Vietnam and he's already put the nails in the coffin.
07:57 AM on 12/03/2009
{posted Dec 2, 2009 at 22:04:00 Reply Link

Durango There are plans for pipelines.

most well known is the Unocal plan or the one put together at the same time by Argentine interests. (I think, not certain about that)

But plans for pipelines are not the reason we are in Afghanistan.

BTW, the proposed pipelines would run from Central Asian Republics, Kazakastan,Uzbeckistan, Turkmenistan.}]

If plans for pipelines are not the reason, why was the Afghan war started in the first place?

Not from Russia.

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04:09 AM on 12/03/2009
Obama should be the next repubIican presidential candidate.
04:00 AM on 12/03/2009
http://therealnews.com/id/4549/December 2, 2009/Obama%27s+Vietnam-lite

Pepe Escobar: "This is an Asian issue that has to be solved by Asians; that’s the rationale for a solution to be developed inside the framework of the Shanghai Cooperation Organization (SCO), not the US or NATO."
07:34 AM on 12/03/2009
This is an excellent view by Pepe Escobar. Everyone should read it.

Also, The Asia Times.com, has very good articles.

If you agree with me that Barack Obama has made a huge mistake on escalating the war in Afghanistan, go to MoveOn.org and Justforeignpolicy.org and Rethinkafghanistan.org and sign up ( it's free ) and send a message to your members of Congress and Joe Biden and Barack Obama that you want our troops ( and civilian contractors ) out of Iraq and Afghanistan.
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David Rozgonyi
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02:17 AM on 12/03/2009
BOTH BusH and Obama set dates for reducing troop levels right before the next election cycle.

this is a farce, sending kids to prop up Karzai
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02:22 AM on 12/03/2009
Karzai, whose brother is a known drug lord and on the cia payroll...

This guy is not worth a bruise on one of our men or women in uniform.
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01:48 AM on 12/03/2009
President Obama can't seem to put health reform debate on C-SPAN or repeal DADT, but he has been able to order tens of thousands of troops to Afghanistan TWICE in the first year of office...
01:11 AM on 12/03/2009
Obama, I have officially lost any respect i had for you.

your just another chump.

as Argentinians said in 2001 during their financial crisis:
que se vayan todos! (They all must go!)

no politician can save us. power corrupts, and the more you have less likely you are to do anything meaningful.
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Angie Cordeiro
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01:40 AM on 12/03/2009
and....

I was moved by the women interviewed this summer in Afghanistan :

Rethink Afghanistan:

http://rethinkafghanistan.com/blog/?p=604

This video was made summer 2009, not much has changed in these few months.
01:43 AM on 12/03/2009
I am sooo glad I'm your fan or I might have missed this little treasure. Thank you very much, it is uplifting, positive and inspiring.
12:29 AM on 12/03/2009
The bank scam, the phoney healthcare bill scam, the continued Iraq
scam and now Afganiscam.

And I voted for this creep!
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Winthorpe
Need a fourth for squash
12:32 AM on 12/03/2009
Boy, if only we had President McCain and Vice President Palin. One can only dream...
12:42 AM on 12/03/2009
Mitt Romney, or President Huckabee

Give me a break.
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skialethia
αω vs military might
12:50 AM on 12/03/2009
Wake up call: Don't take anything for granted when it comes to progressive discontent:

“Thank God many Americans agree this escalation is a horrendous idea.

Rasmussen and Gallup both have his approval rating on Afghanistan at 35%:

"the president's approach to Afghanistan does not appear to be in line with the expectations of Americans. According to a new poll released by Gallup, only 35 percent of Americans approve of the job President Obama has done with regard to Afghanista­­n.....The Gallup approval ratings represent an absolute plummet from 56 percent approval on the matter in July."

http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/283059
12:56 AM on 12/03/2009
We all know how terrible and ugly the GOP is ... but the sad truth is how empty the Dem party is as well.

Many of us now regret the effort and hope that was poured into Obama's candidacy. The two party system is like having a choice between cancer or heart disease. Once again, we are sold out. Gotta wonder ... who really runs the show?

We KNEW how evil BushCo was but just didn't expect all this samo-samo from Barack Obama. Change meant 'even more occupation' is all.

It's almost like Cheney never left. Sad ... sad ... sad.
12:25 AM on 12/03/2009
Speaking as a war weary citizen against this escalation that sends our children to battle once more, and in agreement with those speaking out against it, I am still left to wonder what would happen if we withdraw. Would we be faced with a greater war in the future if nuclear armed Pakistan falls to Al Quaeda?
Wish someone could give a clear vision of how to proceed if we withdraw. Could we really protect the country with a strong Al Quada calling the shots from Afghanistan? This is much more than a civil war. The reality is that Al Quada is gaining strength and the center of their power is Pakistan.
I suspect Obama's lack of passion reflects his resignation at having to make a horrible choice out of ones that may be more disastrous.
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12:10 AM on 12/03/2009
Rachel Maddow Bush/Obama--
http://www.commondreams.org/video/2009/12/02

Drones killing innocent civilians in Pakistan--wake up and smell the coffee.
12:31 AM on 12/03/2009
Rachel did a great job. Thanks for posting.
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12:06 AM on 12/03/2009
Washington, DC. The insane aslyum for the world.
OpposingViewpoint
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12:07 AM on 12/03/2009
Uhhh....asylum.
12:01 AM on 12/03/2009
A short film and petition can be found here:

http://rethinkafghanistan.com/
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12:13 AM on 12/03/2009
thank you.
signed.
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skialethia
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12:58 AM on 12/03/2009
Done. Excellent video, too. Hope you keep posting this.
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11:59 PM on 12/02/2009
The biggest troublemaker will will ever face, watches us from the mirror every morning.

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