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Unemployment Rate Falls To 10%, 11K Jobs Lost In November

JEANNINE AVERSA and CHRISTOPHER S. RUGABER   12/ 4/09 11:10 PM ET   AP

Unemployment Rate November

WASHINGTON — Two years of steep job cuts all but ended last month, unexpectedly pulling down the unemployment rate and raising hopes for a lasting economic recovery.

Federal figures released Friday showed that the rate fell from 10.2 percent in October to 10 percent as employers shed the fewest number of jobs since the recession began two years ago. The government also said far fewer jobs were lost in September and October than first reported.

And the so-called underemployment rate, counting part-time workers who want full-time jobs and laid-off workers who have given up their job hunt, also fell, from 17.5 percent in October to 17.2 percent.

The better-than-expected figures provided a rare dose of good news for the economy, but the respite may be temporary. Job creation is still so weak that more than 15 million out-of-work Americans face fierce competition for few openings.

"We will need very substantial job growth to get unemployment lower, especially when the labor force ... starts growing again," said Lawrence Mishel, president of the Economic Policy Institute, a liberal think tank.

Even counting last month's decline, the unemployment rate has more than doubled from 4.9 percent when the recession began.

The report showed how hard it remains to find work. The number of people jobless for at least six months rose last month to 5.9 million. And the average length of unemployment has risen to more than 28 weeks, the longest on record dating to 1948.

Carolyn Malone of Milwaukee had not looked for work in decades – until she was laid off from her customer-service job in May.

Malone, 62, laughed when asked Friday how many jobs she had applied for. She can't remember. But she does recall how many landed her an interview: One. It didn't lead to a job.

"I just want to get my toe in the door," she said, scrolling through her e-mail at a hiring center.

Still, economists and investors drew hope from Friday's Labor Department report. Employers sliced just 11,000 jobs in November, compared with a loss of 111,000 jobs in October. It was the best reading since December 2007 – the last time the economy added jobs and the start of the worst recession since the 1930s.

The unemployment rate had not fallen since July, when it declined from 9.5 percent to 9.4 percent.

Factories, retailers, construction companies – hardest hit by the recession – all slowed the pace of layoffs in November. So did transportation companies and those in leisure and hospitality.

Job gains were produced in education, health care and professional and business services, which mostly reflected temporary hiring. The government added workers, too. Those included states and localities, mainly reflecting the hiring of teachers.

President Barack Obama welcomed the news but lamented that too many Americans "have felt the gut punch of a pink slip."

Facing the prospect of high unemployment well into the 2012 presidential election year, Obama is drafting a proposal to try to stimulate hiring.

"We need to grow jobs and get America back to work as quickly as we can," he said.

Just a month ago, an unexpected spike in the unemployment rate caused some economists to predict it could climb as high as 11 percent. But Friday's report lessened that pessimism, and economists doubted the rate would reach that point.

Still, the jobless rate is expected to resume moving higher, perhaps to 10.5 percent or more by the middle of next year, before drifting down. That's because the recovery is likely to be too weak to spur the job creation needed to quickly drive down the unemployment rate.

The Federal Reserve has estimated that the rate could remain as high as 7.6 percent in 2012.

"The economic storm destroyed more than 7 million jobs over the last two years, and it will take more than two years to get them back," said Bill Cheney, chief economist at John Hancock. "The economy is still weak."

Competition for jobs is so intense that Marla Goldman of Spring Hill, Tenn., has heard back from only six prospective employers out of 100 she's applied to since losing her job with an electronics systems company in October.

She made it to a fifth interview with a company, which booked her a plane ticket to Florida and even sent her an itinerary. But two days later, the company decided to wait on the job until after Jan. 1.

"There are just far more candidates for every job than there are jobs," said Goldman, 50.

To rev up hiring, Obama plans to send Congress a list of ideas, including new tax breaks for small businesses that hire, some new spending on roads, bridges and other construction and grants to state and local governments to avoid layoffs, according to an official who spoke on condition of anonymity because the package was still being crafted.

Congress is not likely to take up a job-creation package until after New Year's.

The administration credits its $787 billion package of tax cuts and increased government spending with improving employment, though Republicans argue it did not help much. The Fed's record-low interest rates, along with other moves to drive down loan rates and stimulate borrowing, have supported the economic rebound.

Most economists said they did not think the better-than-expected jobs news would cause the Fed to raise rates sooner. That's because they predict the jobless rate will remain high and job creation too sluggish. Most analysts do not expect the economy to add jobs consistently each month until spring.

Until employers gain confidence in the recovery, they will be reluctant to ramp up hiring. The few industries creating jobs will probably include health care, education, legal services, data processing, transportation, high-tech manufacturing, electrical power generation and jobs involved in making homes and buildings more energy-efficient, according to Labor Secretary Hilda Solis and private economists.

But November's report suggested that the worst of the job losses are past. And figures out Friday showed that job losses in September and October were not nearly as deep as previously estimated.

The government said 159,000 few jobs were cut in those two months combined. Such revisions are based on more complete information the government gets from companies it surveys. From January through March, the economy lost at least 600,000 jobs each month.

Employment has improved more in some other countries. Canada, for instance, said Friday that its economy added 79,000 jobs last month, reducing its jobless rate to 8.5 percent from 8.6 percent. Canada did not suffer the type of housing meltdown and financial crisis that slammed the U.S. economy last year.

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Associated Press writers Philip Elliott in Allentown, Pa., Emily Fredrix in Milwaukee and Andrew Taylor in Washington contributed to this report.

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dan-o
11:58 AM on 12/07/2009
Thank God my wife found a part time job that she can work 10 to 20 hours per week. Now the unemployment in our household is only at 50%. It's great that the government no longer considers her to be unemployed.

We also need to be thankful for the health insurance offered by her employer for part-time employees (major home improvement retailer) with its maximum yearly benefit of $5000---Yup $5000 maximum benefit - that is not the deductible- all for $70 every two weeks- OOORAAAA- we are saved. Oh, we did have the choice between two policies- the $5000 maximum policy and the $1000 yearly maximum benefit policy. And again, that is the yearly maximum benefit- not the deductible or copay. I guess they can honestly say that they provide health insurance to their part time employees.
10:32 AM on 12/07/2009
I understand that in a deep recession such as the one we we (and still are) in it is appropriate to increase govt spending to get the economy going again, but the problem is so little of that money has actually helped average people who are struggling - who who have been fired or or working for reduced pay or reduced hours. \

good articles: http://financeopinionss.blogspot.com
We're still in recession as far as I;m concerned. Screw GDP. Until there's jobs and health care it;s a recession.
11:43 AM on 12/06/2009
NO more bailouts. No more bonuses. Time to put people to work!

good articles; http://financeopinionss.blogspot.com
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Mike Keough
01:29 PM on 12/05/2009
Forgive me, but how do we lose jobs and see the percentage fall? m Is this some kind of Washington math?
RTIII
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04:25 PM on 12/08/2009
Apparently, enough of us died that there was a net improvement. Or, one would have to imagine that's what happened because there's no way that you can have continued job losses and at the same time have an improvement in employment...
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10:23 AM on 12/05/2009
Interesting to see positive spin on such a meaningless statistical reduction in unemployment.

Compared to this article with the same percentage, you wonder why?

http://www.nytimes.com/2002/09/07/business/unemployment-fell-in-august-but-drop-is-called-insignificant.html?pagewanted=all
07:08 AM on 12/05/2009
FYI:

I continuously hear people say they don't understand how there could be job cuts while the unemployment rate declines. Therefore, I have provided a page explaining how and why that happens.

Labor Force Statistics from the Current Population Survey

How is the unemployment rate related to unemployment insurance claims?

Some people think that to get these figures on unemployment the Government uses the number of persons filing claims for unemployment insurance (UI) benefits under State or Federal Government programs. But some people are still jobless when their benefits run out, and many more are not eligible at all or delay or never apply for benefits. So, quite clearly, UI information cannot be used as a source for complete information on the number of unemployed.

The number of unemployed persons in the United States and the national unemployment rate are produced from data collected in the Current Population Survey (CPS), a monthly survey of over 60,000 households. A person's unemployment status is established by responses to a series of questions on whether they have a job or are on layoff, whether they want a job and are available to work, and what they have done to look for work in the preceding 4 weeks. The unemployment rate is the number of unemployed persons as a percent of the labor force (employed and unemployed persons). See "Who is counted as unemployed?" for more information.
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02:10 AM on 12/05/2009
The BLS estimates on job losses are disputed . Instead of on 11,000 jobs lose, some private firms estimate the number of job losses much higher, around 255,000. This would indicate that the unemployment situation is not improving. Is it possible that BLS numbers are incorrect?
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Pete2112
08:19 AM on 12/05/2009
Is it possible the BLS numders are incorrect? It is virtually guaranteed they are incorrect! AT one point thi syr the BLS was estimating and increase in construction hiring as the number of housing starts was going down. The BLS birth-death model is a joke. They can just as well pluck a number out of thin air using a Ouiji board.

It's like Retail data that shows sales activity improving while sales taxes collected are plummeting all around the country.
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09:35 PM on 12/04/2009
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06:21 PM on 12/04/2009
Obama doesn't know what he is doing. This is just holiday hiring. Businesses won't hire during a commie Great Leap Forward and Maoist Cultural Revolution.

Don't be deceived: turn around and head the other way.

The way to liberty, however messy it is.
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06:33 PM on 12/04/2009
You want to prove that temporary jobs are included. Historically, they are not. Prove what you claim.
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07:07 PM on 12/04/2009
ljc: I'll prove it soon enough. Especially when the collapse democrats WANT to happen, finally shows up.
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10:24 AM on 12/05/2009
prove a saved job
Viper
Former repub, still repenting
07:57 PM on 12/04/2009
Funny, numbers are always seasonally adjusted..

Silly to tlak abont Commies.. given they now make everything we buy here and our the BANKER.

You do know that every compeny that does business in communist china gives effectovely a 50% interst in that business to the communist government...yes KFC, McDonalds, Wall mart , Buick... and the government owns 100% of most major industries.

So it seems given China's economic growth rate is 3 times ours... busineseses just love Commie /Mao governments,

Regards


Regards
06:07 PM on 12/04/2009
10.0% is somewhat misleading, and could be viewed as a statistical lie. If you look on the BLS website, the real unemployment rate (U-6) went from 16.3% in Oct 09 to 16.4% in Nov 09. Now, after "seasonally adjusting" the numbers, which is really not fair, since 2009 in not like 2008, 2007, 2006, and 2005, etc... we have a drop in unemployment. This is really a game of moving numbers around. It's not accurate and does not reflect an improvement in the jobs market.

Please note that at the worst of the Great Depression, U-6 was at 33%. So, technically, the Great Recession is 1/2 as deep (at least not) as the Great Depression.

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07:10 PM on 12/04/2009
Josh: FDR got out of troubled with a world war.
Viper
Former repub, still repenting
08:03 PM on 12/04/2009
You mean the last war we won?

Yes becuase reougs did what thye always do complained about building roads, parks and dams. Pls note that WAR is massive government spending and it takes a lot more of that type of spending to turn around an economy since its not investment spending...

Paying to build a bomb, drop a bomb and then repairing ultimately what you blew up is not verry efficient.

And back then their were real patriots who raised taxes to pay for their wars... not cut them and pass the cost to their kids.

Funny though BUSH wars have not been much of an economic aid... in fact its the first time in history that all that spending caused a Depression!

Regards
04:34 AM on 12/09/2009
That's a Keynesian myth..... The economy recovered only in 1946 when the controls that had been choking the private sector were lifted.

Government spending decreased by 2/3rd in 1946 (against the advise of Keynesians who predicted the resumption of the great depression) ....

What actually happened was an unprecedented 30% increase in private sector activity, which almost offset the reduction in Government spending (leading to a milder than predicted recession) followed by 25 years of robust growth starting in 1947.....
05:50 PM on 12/04/2009
I was hoping for FDR 2.0, but instead its become waffling 2.0, deficit 2.0, banking 2.0, Afghanistan 2.0. Iraq 2.0, Guantanamo 2.0

hat tip to: http://financeopinionss.blogspot.com
so much for job creation. Unemployment falls a whole .2% and the MSM is calling it a recovery. what a joke
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TheWestLA-Banned
06:03 PM on 12/04/2009
Perhaps they are also thinking a recovery is underway because the GDP has gone from negative to positive.
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Scribe57
It would take too long to explain.
07:08 PM on 12/04/2009
Yeah, cause if Obama knew what he was doing, the unemployment rate would magically drop a zillion points overnight. It wouldn't slow down first, then actually decrease slowly. No, no, of course not.

On a seperate point, ever notice how many "disgruntled Obama voters" joined in November '09? What a remarkable coincidence that so many, filled with hope after enthusiasctially supporting Obama, lost hope and decided to start posting here in the same month. Wow, almost like it was planned or something.
08:33 PM on 12/04/2009
It's really true and really depressing that if you repeat something over and over it can become accepted as fact. I'm going to get time one day to look at how friending really works on here. It seems to be a kind of tool for adding pressure to make agreeable statements. You know, you get rewarded for intermittently saying things that many people agree with, etc. Agreeable statements are arrived at by noticing common elements of other peoples' comments. I think those common-element kind of statements are among the least important and pressure to make unimportant statements explains why so many people on here fixate on relatively unimportant parts of political issues: public option (not effective without competition among hospitals), executive pay (a very, very small percentage of expenditures at large financial companies), that kind of thing.
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gladys46
Know Your Interests, Vote
05:18 PM on 12/04/2009
So, is this a trade, trick or treat:

DEM SENATORS REQUEST TO BE ADDED TO COBURN PUBLIC OPTION AMENDMENT

Sens. Brown, Dodd, Mikulski Ask Unanimous Consent to be Added to Amendment Requiring All Members of Congress to Enroll in Public Option

– A group of Democratic Senators today requested to be added to an amendment filed by Sen. Tom Coburn (R-OK) which would require that all Members of Congress enroll in the public health insurance option. U.S. Sens. Sherrod Brown (D-OH), Christopher Dodd (D-CT), and Barbara Mikulski (D-MD) requested unanimous consent on the Senate floor to be added to the list of cosponsors for Coburn’s amendment which includes Sens. David Vitter (R-LA), Richard Burr (R-NC), and Orrin Hatch (R-UT).

“Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent to be added as a cosponsor to the Coburn Amendment number 2789, requiring all Members of Congress to enroll in the new public insurance option,” said Brown, who helped write the public option passed in the Senate Health, Education, Labor and Pensions Committee, on the Senate floor. “Seventeen years ago when I first ran for Congress, I promised I'd pay my own health insurance until Congress passed health insurance for everyone. I've paid it out of my pocket since then. I look forward with great eagerness to join the public option as soon as it's available.”

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06:37 PM on 12/04/2009
I saw that over at Think Progress. The Republicans stepped in it good this time. They got pawned today by their own BS. I love it.
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paulita
Progress is an evolutionary process
05:03 PM on 12/04/2009
Scheherazadea I'm a Fan of Scheherazadea I'm a fan of this user 62 fans permalink
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I'm fine with that arrangement so long as the respect is held by both parties. I won't say anything disparaging about christianity if christians will stop with the prop 8 insanity.
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Schehera,

My problem is the lumping of all Christians into right winged theology. Not all Christians are against gay marriage and there are gay Christians as well.

In the Episcopal Church for example, this is a discussion and many are on the side of gay marriage and most people are in favor of gay priests who have argued for their rights, so that´s what I am saying about lumping all "religious people" into this right winged theology. This is inaccurate.
05:06 PM on 12/04/2009
Sounds like we have an agreement. Only could you unfan AfroLatina21since she's homophobic? That would be a testament to your sincerity.
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paulita
Progress is an evolutionary process
05:17 PM on 12/04/2009
I don´t know who that is and I don´t know that I´m a fan of that person.
05:45 PM on 12/04/2009
Wow.

Bully and blackmail people. You truly are special.
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Raccoon1
These are the times that try men's souls........
04:59 PM on 12/04/2009
Want to see more jobs in America? Buy American.
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judyc
One love, one heart...
05:02 PM on 12/04/2009
Would if I could find anything made here.
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SarcasticFringehead
Mute Nostril Agony
05:14 PM on 12/04/2009
So true.
It seems like over 90% of the things I buy were manufactured in China.
06:10 AM on 12/07/2009
Try www.etsy.com. I have bought some lovely things here.
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obama20082012
37 repeal tries later....the GOP still fails
05:47 PM on 12/04/2009
What about all the American companies that have moved factories overseas?
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Actongue
04:59 PM on 12/04/2009
Barry Goldwater said it best about conservatives and the far right

http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Barry_Goldwater

"I think every good Christian ought to kick Falwell right in the a s s. "

"On religious issues there can be little or no compromise. There is no position on which people are so immovable as their religious beliefs. There is no more powerful ally one can claim in a debate than Jesus Christ, or God, or Allah, or whatever one calls this supreme being. But like any powerful weapon, the use of God's name on one's behalf should be used sparingly. The religious factions that are growing throughout our land are not using their religious clout with wisdom. They are trying to force government leaders into following their position 100 percent. If you disagree with these religious groups on a particular moral issue, they complain, they threaten you with a loss of money or votes or both."