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GOP Senator: We Will Unanimously Oppose Newest Health Care Compromise

First Posted: 03/18/10 06:12 AM ET Updated: 05/25/11 03:55 PM ET

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Senate Republicans predicted on Wednesday that the 40 members of their caucus would unanimously oppose health care reform despite changes made by Democratic leadership to make the product more palatable to conservatives.

Sen. John Thune (R-S.D.) told the Huffington Post that he did not think the dropping of a public option for insurance coverage from the bill would be enough for Democrats to win even the support of moderate Republican Senators Olympia Snowe or Susan Collins, both of Maine.

"I just think that our side believes that it is a really bad idea to take a program that is already sinking and put more people into it."

Both Thune and Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) said they thought the last minute alterations to the Senate's version of health care -- specifically the decision to expand Medicare coverage to those as young as 55-years-old -- was a "Hail Mary" attempt on the part of Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) to amass the votes needed to overcome a Republican filibuster.

"This is like Groundhog Day. It is déjà vu all over again where we wake up every day and there is a new idea to try and figure out how to get to 60 votes," said Thune.

Pointing out that Sen. Joseph Lieberman' (I-Conn.) supported a Medicare buy-in provision in the 2000 campaign, Thune added: "Maybe that is what they are trying to tie into -- something he supported in the past. I don't know how that helps them with moderates on their side who have expressed concern about government-run health care. But they are obviously figuring out how to pick off one or more of their own."

It does appear that Reid and his deputies believe that the most recent round of compromises will yield them the needed votes to cut of a Republican filibuster. The quick moving debate, however, has meant that there is a paucity of details about the actual legislation. On Wednesday, Republicans sought to latch on to the one provision that has been widely reported -- the Medicare buy-in -- painting it as a financial death sentence for hospitals and a killer for doctors.

"We had never heard of such a proposal before in all of the proposals that were being made and we don't know the details yet," said McCain. "But the American Medical Association and the American Hospitals Association and a whole lot of other groups have heard enough that they are against this provision."

Told that under the Democrats proposal, 55-to-64-year-olds who want to be covered by Medicare would have to pay a premium, the senator still foresaw budgetary ruin for the government-run program.

"Number one, obviously the premiums that are paid in now aren't enough because the Medicare trustees have stated the system is going bankrupt in seven years," said McCain. "Number two is, there is a concern that people who have pre-existing conditions can't get insurance anywhere else. Third of all, you would be expanding, over time the population in Medicare dramatically at a much earlier time.

"I always thought that Medicare was a way to take care of our senior citizens," he concluded. "That was the original design. And I think, and maybe it's from my vantage point, but I consider 55 to be pretty young."

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comicpro
Stupid Should Be Painful
02:06 PM on 12/24/2009
Hey GOP: 60-39. Stick that in your pipe and smoke it!
01:21 PM on 12/25/2009
Hey GOP, stomp your feet and yell, that'll get your point accross. LOL!
04:31 AM on 12/24/2009
The bill must be good, if the Bushite and Cheneyte Repubs oppose it.
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treat2day
Be Yourself. Everyone Else Is Taken
10:53 PM on 12/23/2009
---the gift from the Repubicans in 2004---

Extra Payments to Medicare Advantage to Total $11.4 billion in 2009

Private Medicare Advantage (MA) plans will be paid $11.4 billion more in 2009 than what the same beneficiaries would have cost in the traditional Medicare fee-for-service program, according to a new report released today by The Commonwealth Fund. This new analysis, The Continuing Costs of Privatization: Extra Payments to Medicare Advantage Plans Jump to $11.4 Billion in 2009, estimates that since MA was enacted in 2004, $43 billion in extra payments have been made.

In the report, Brian Biles, professor of health policy at George Washington University and colleagues find that extra payments to MA plans will amount to an average of $1,138, or 13 percent over fee-for-service costs, for each of about 10 million Medicare beneficiaries enrolled in Medicare Advantage plans. The $11.4 billion in extra payments in 2009 represents a 34 percent increase over 2008 payments, which totaled $8.5 billion. According to authors, the steep one-year increase was due to the increase in payment rates and enrollment in the private MA plans.

http://www.disabled-world.com/medical/healthcare/us-medicare/medicare-advantage-plans.php
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treat2day
Be Yourself. Everyone Else Is Taken
10:50 PM on 12/23/2009
Krugman writes and I agree:

But the need for 60 votes to cut off Senate debate and end a filibuster — a requirement that appears nowhere in the Constitution, but is simply a self-imposed rule — turned what should have been a straightforward piece of legislating into a nail-biter. And it gave a handful of wavering senators extraordinary power to shape the bill.
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Yaxchibonam
Learn a second language.
12:17 AM on 12/12/2009
And we will make sure your names go down in the history books for doing it.
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yukoner1
Living way up the left coast.
09:27 PM on 12/10/2009
'We will unanimously oppose.......' Sounds like the perfect epitaph for the gop
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kd1s
I.T. Geek!
05:38 PM on 12/10/2009
So in other words, there really was no need to drop the public option.

I think the Democratic party needs to drop the conciliatory attitude with the Republicans. Do to them what they did to Democrats when they had the majorities. Freeze them out.
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LeftRight
TANSTAAFL
06:39 PM on 12/10/2009
So, in other words, we should have just gone for single payer....
01:24 PM on 12/25/2009
Not every Dem on Indy Senator wants the public option. You couldn't have got to 60 without compromise.
05:26 PM on 12/10/2009
BAN ALL REPUBLICANS of every age group now and in perpetuity (that means everyone who voted republican in the 2008 election ...ye shall reap what thou sowed) from accessing Medicare and make them forever ineligible for the Medicare program. If they're so thrilled with private insurance let THEM support the private insurance industry single-handed and pay their own full cost for their own healthcare (and hopefully they won't be too 'shocked and outraged" to find no MD's will accept their insurance)....and the rest of us (per the Republican right wingnuts) "social-commi-maoist-liberals" will pay our premiums into Medicare and be happy that at least we will have insurance with teeth and no for-profit actuary will be telling our doctors how to do their job.
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drricklippin
physician-activist-poet
05:12 PM on 12/10/2009
WE ARE IN DEEP TROUBLE!

Putting aside the compelling moral and economic imperatives for long overdue US health care reform ,failure on any MEANINGFUL US health care reform could very literally destabilize confidence that the US legislative process works at all?

This would be very traumatic to our nation as a whole.

Dr. Rick Lippin
Southampton,Pa
http://medicalcrises.blogspot.com
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Balzac
05:08 PM on 12/10/2009
John Thune - somebody floated his name for a presidential candidate. I don't know whether I should harvest his ego and mount it on my wall just to be mean, or should I let him get away with this smugly smirk. Who ever dares to be the smug face of Republican obstructionism, is begging for a brutal ego harvest.

Does John Thune want to be that guy? If so, his ego will be hurtin', pull the curtain, let the money drip dry, hundred dollar bills to wipe the tear from my eye. Another ego will be taken, stuffed, and mounted on the wall of the Hall of the Mountain King.
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lafayette2009
Revolutionary Leader
05:05 PM on 12/10/2009
Well, based on some of the recent revelations about Republicans and their mistresses, escorts, and other dalliances, we know they can say yes to something.
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proggirl
college teacher, artist, writer
03:56 PM on 12/10/2009
Well, we now know the whole Republican party platform.
"We're unanimously opposed."
That's all they've got.
Oh, and more tax cuts and no gay marriage. Pathetic.
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proggirl
college teacher, artist, writer
03:53 PM on 12/10/2009
"Republicans sought to latch on to the one provision that has been widely reported -- the Medicare buy-in -- painting it as a financial death sentence for hospitals and a killer for doctors"
Two days ago it was the abor.tion provision. There's no pleasing these swell-headed buf.foons, so why try? Let's just do what we should have done in the first place, write and pass a bill that recognizes a citizen's right to health care, and let them deal with voting against it.
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AllenD
8 years of Obama, deal with it!
03:47 PM on 12/10/2009
"Republicans sought to latch on to the one provision that has been widely reported -- the Medicare buy-in -- painting it as a financial death sentence for hospitals and a killer for doctors"


Of course, the rightards always side with the insurance industry, phamacies, doctors and hospitals against the needs of their own constituents!
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Laserbeam
Nothing is permanent except change...
03:35 PM on 12/10/2009
Is anyone here surprised by this?

I will probably fall over dead if they ever say anything nice about President Obamna or ANY of the Democratic bills.