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Pharma Deal Shuts Down Senate Health Care Debate

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First Posted: 03/18/10 06:12 AM ET Updated: 05/25/11 03:55 PM ET

The White House, aided by Sen. Tom Carper (D-Del.), is working hard to crush an amendment being pushed by Sen. Byron Dorgan (D-N.D.) to allow for the reimportation of pharmaceutical drugs from Canada, Senate sources tell the Huffington Post.

As a result, the Senate health care debate has come to a standstill: Carper has placed a "hold" on Dorgan's amendment and in response, Dorgan tells HuffPost, he'll object to any other amendments being considered before he gets a vote on his.

Sen. Olympia Snowe (R-Maine) is a lead co-sponsor of Dorgan's amendment. She said she's confident that, as of now, they have the votes they need. "I think that's why we're not having this vote," she said, smiling. The amendment has the support of a number of other Republicans, including Sens. John McCain (Ariz.), Charles Grassley (Iowa), John Thune (S.D.) and David Vitter (La.).

Opponents of the amendment worry that many more Republicans may join the amendment not because they agree with it, but because they want to put the health care bill in jeopardy.

So the White House and the drug makers are trying to persuade as many Democrats as they can to oppose the amendment despite their previous support for it.

"I don't think that's going to get my vote," Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D-W.Va.) said when HuffPost asked about the reimportation amendment. He said that even though he is a supporter of reimportation, he is concerned that if it passes it could blow everything up.

"I'm not messing around with anything without 60 votes. Nothing," he said. "And I'm a co-sponsor of the amendment."

The dispute within the Democratic caucus is becoming personal. "Of course, with Dorgan, it's all about Dorgan," a senior Democratic aide told HuffPost, complaining that Dorgan was willing to blow up health care reform for his own glory.

Within a decade, reimportation would save consumers roughly $80 billion and the federal government $19 billion, according to the Congressional Budget Office. But that would mean $100 billion more in lost revenue than the powerful Pharmaceutical Research and Manufacturers of America (PhRMA) lobby agreed to bear-- in exchange for being supportive of the overall health reform effort.

Earlier this year, the administration struck a deal with PhRMA and the Senate Finance Committee limiting the industry's hit to $80 billion over ten years. The deal has never been officially confirmed, but the Huffington Post reported at the time that the White House agreed to oppose re-importation. The Senate Finance Committee bill, as well as the merged bill sent to the floor by Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.), stuck to that deal.

Along with its pledge of support, PhRMA offered to spend $150 million on ads backing reform. Most of that money stands ready to be used to kill reform, should it come to that. A Democratic aide said that the threat of PhRMA ads is being used by opponents of Dorgan's amendment as a reason to sink it.

Similarly, if Republicans end up providing the winning margin for the importation amendment, a source involved in the negotiations said the drug makers will come after the GOP "with a vengeance -- and not just on health care."

Grassley, a longtime supporter of reimportation, said that the amendment is running into trouble "[b]ecause of the PhRMA agreement with the White House. This thing can pass and they don't want egg on their face with PhRMA. And I understand there's going to be a side-by-side [alternative amendment] and it's probably one of these issues where it will obfuscate the issue, but that not one single pill will get into this country if that side-by-side is adopted."

Thune, another co-sponsor of the amendment, said he was unsure how many fellow Republicans would come along. "It remains to be seen. Everybody's close to the vest on this and I think that's why the Dems don't want it voted on. They don't know how many votes their side has to deliver to defeat it. They've got a lot of people on their side that would normally vote for it," said Thune.

Did he think some Republicans would vote for it just to cause mischief, HuffPost asked.

"It's possible," he said.

Sen. Roger Wicker (R-Miss.) agreed it was a possibility, adding, "And some members of the Democratic leadership might vote against it even though they love the idea, because they've been so cozy with their new-found friends in PhRMA."

Wicker said he has yet to decide how he'll vote. "I've frankly been all over the map on that issue, so I'm being courted heavily," he said.

There's no certainty that PhRMA would walk away from the entire bill if the amendment passed, because it contains a basket of other goodies the industry won from the White House - not to mention about 30 million newly-insured consumers. "Who knows what people are going to do? It's hard to predict what's going to happen," Sen. Max Baucus (D-Mont.), chairman of the Finance Committee, said Friday.

Asked about the state of the amendment, he said: "Limbo."

The lobby is fighting the amendment as hard as it can, along with Carper, the senator from Delaware, which is home to a range of pharmaceutical interests.

Dorgan said that Carper's hold is unusual. "When somebody comes in and says, 'Let's have a vote,' it's generally, by consent, let's schedule a vote for 2:15," he said.

The hold causes problems for Dorgan and buys time for the amendment's opponents. "You can only beat a hold though after you file a cloture petition and wait two days and the cloture petition ripens and you get your vote," said Dorgan. "As a result of that [hold], I have also objected to them doing other business until I get my vote."

Ken Johnson, PhRMA's vice president, tells HuffPost the industry opposes the amendment for three principal reasons. First, he said, the Food and Drug Administration can't guarantee the safety of reimported drugs. Second, he says, it would cut into drug makers' profits - money it needs for research. And third, he says, the uncertainty around the origin of reimported drugs could tarnish the pharmaceutical brand, as people wonder about the authenticity of the drugs in their medicine cabinet.

Carper asked the FDA for its opinion on Dorgan's amendment and the administration wrote back on December 9 that it opposed it.

Publicly, President Obama continues to support reimportation, as he did during the campaign.

"The President supports reimportation of safe and effective drugs. He made that clear in his FY 2010 budget, which included $5 million to enable the FDA to begin developing policy options," reads a statement from the White House. "The Food and Drug Administration has raised safety concerns about the current proposal and will continue exploring policy options to create a pathway to importing safe and effective drugs."

UPDATE: "We're not whipping against the Dorgan amendment. Those rumors just aren't true," says a White House aide in an e-mail. The aide says that the White House has taken no position on the amendment.

Ryan Grim is the author of This Is Your Country On Drugs: The Secret History of Getting High in America


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03:06 AM on 12/16/2009
President Obama has exhibited virtually no Leadership on this entire Health Care Reform exercise. He has done all he can to rush the Health Care Reform movement through Congress without having performed "Due Diligence", knowing from where the money would come to pay for the reform, he has subjected Medicare to a very dangerous loss of $500Billion in order to fund this little project, endangered Seniors, endangered the uninsured, endangered those huge numbers of Americans who have excellent group health benefits who will likely lose them, and cares no more than do the members of Congress who also hope to gain from being known as "The Ones" who did it, including Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi, Christopher Dodd, Barney Frank, Charlie Rangel, and others who should be heading to prison soon for breaking the laws they pass for the average American to follow.

We have gone more deeply into debt, have 8 Million more unemployed workers, have a more seriously depressed economy and a more desperate citizenry than we did when Obama took office.

It's time to throw these bums out, including Obama, and get to what needs our attention...remember those words, "It's The Economy stupid"?...It is the economy, and virtually nothing has been done to fix it. It's time to put people back to work...and until they are, the rest is simply nonsense.
12:44 AM on 12/18/2009
I agree. The failure of the Drug Importation Bill just goes to show how deals are cut in Washington. What is good for the people does not matter. We need a new government. Obama is an inneffective president because he won't stand up for anything. He is now part of the problem. I voted for a liar. Change we can believe in? More of the same!

The Democrats and the Republicans need to go!
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01:01 PM on 12/15/2009
I have no idea when the lobbying system first started in this country or when did they get entrenched
to the point that all major issues must have their approval before any law can pass. But, it looks like
they are running the country and not the law-makers who supposedly represent the people.
As long as lobbyists are allowed to proliferate and continue to influence all decision making, and career politicians need them to protect their present and future jobs, our country will go down the
drain and go bankrupt earlier than we think.
09:53 PM on 12/14/2009
Government inflexibility and Healthcare reform

At the peak of the national debate on healthcare reform a central fear of ordinary people and healthcare providers remain unaddressed and rarely discussed. Would bigger government role in healthcare make our government even more inflexible in correcting system failures that impact patient care?
I submit that the government’s past conduct in fixing existing issues is the barometer for things to come. Issues like the VA’s prior authorization for PCP visits in nursing homes (In some nursing home contracts the VA mandates that they pre-approve most, if not all, visits by the patients’ own PCP before they happen) that practically make veterans second class patients.
Another current unresolved issue is the DEA requirement that nursing home patients not receive medications ordered by doctors unless there is a hard script given to the nursing home, a process that has caused delays in patient care since its enforcement almost a year ago.
Going back to basics in trying to get the attention of our giant, unyielding, government, a petition was published 3 weeks and is so far signed by hundreds of doctors and other healthcare professionals protesting a specific government action in nursing homes. This petition was sent to many government officials in the executive and legislative branches and we await their response.
http://www.gopetition.com/online/32305.html05.html
Happy holidays.
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04:42 PM on 12/14/2009
A Nation of “Two Heads”: The Government vs. Multi-Headed Medusa of Powerful Industries and Lobbiests.
It’s more correct to say that this country is not “One Headed.” It is more like a nation of “Two Heads”: the “Government” and the “Medusa” that consists of many small heads of powerful industries and their bands of lobbiests, including financial, pharmaceutical, other health care industries. One exists to police the nation; the other(s) exist for the love of money, profits at any costs, even at the destruction of their country and economy which actually feed them.
Over last decades, it has been “the Multi-headed Medusa” that has manipulated, dominated the Government to structure this country best for their benefits that have often sacrificed the rest of the population. Now, there’s this fierce game of obtaining the dominance between President Obama/White House/Govt (despite the endless dissonance and betrayal among them) and the Medusa. It has never been this close for the Government to take this dominance from the Medusa. Despite many current problems, the nation should respect the President for coming this close to the reversal of power game, rather than keep criticizing what he/the White House have done wrong. The current troubles with financial and health care reforms may rather be the indication of how tough the industries' power for the government to suppress them, rather than the weakness of the President and policies. Thanksfully, Mafia or God Father group is not in the game, right?
02:25 PM on 12/14/2009
So, in brokering endorsement from the rich and powerful pharm. companies, supposedly in the purpose of passing a bill to drive down health care costs, the dems have sold-out the possibilities of reimportation, which would drive down the cost of prescription drugs and would benefit ALL Americans through the competition of free trade. "If you don't support our health care reform we will make sure to drive up health care costs on EVERYBODY! that'll teach ya!"
This is what happens when you lie down with the dogs - you wake up with the fleas! meanwhile the administration has given the pharm. companies enough power to hold our entire govt hostage! With their negative campaign ads they'll ... what? convince us stupid consumers that reimportation is a BAD thing?? Where is the integrity? The heart felt purpose to help people who are sick? has this administration completely lost sight of that???
11:22 AM on 12/14/2009
dorgan must have some sinister motivations
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08:41 AM on 12/14/2009
I would like to know something !!
Who in the He** is running this country the Pharmaceutical and Insurance companies or the President and our so called elected officials ?????
02:26 PM on 12/14/2009
here ! here !
02:54 AM on 12/16/2009
President Obama and Big PhRMA are in bed together. Obama has received millions in campaign donations from Pharma, and is simply repaying to debt. He is no different a politician than any other corrupt pol.

Did you really think that he was different? Nope. He is just very articulate and brilliant, which makes him an even more dangerous corrupt politician.
08:38 AM on 12/14/2009
Other than the Huffpo's headline and their previous reporting of a deal between the White House and Pharma, where is the proof the Obama and Pharma are in cahoots on this? I don't see it.
02:28 PM on 12/14/2009
that's because it's hard to see the things going on behind closed doors in this administration of transparency. how are they NOT in cahoots when the pharmeceutical companies are endorsing the president's pet project which will only damage them, and now that the pet project is on its way out they are looking for every loop hole they can tie him into. how much proof do you need?
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02:10 AM on 12/14/2009
Suggesting the Republicans will only vote for the amendment in order to stop Health Care Reform is sickening.
Yea, that's right, the Dumocrats are the ones looking oeut for us, wait a minute, they are trying to kill this Amendment because their new buddies don't like it. Who is looking out for the American People?
02:30 PM on 12/14/2009
we, the American people, have to look out for ourselves. no self serving politician, dem or rep, is looking for our best interest in any way. they might ascend to DC with great intentions, but the muck in which politics is forced to play out will eventually splatter all over every one of the players.
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03:00 PM on 12/15/2009
Watch the Senate hearings. The Republicans are doing anything and everything to stop reform. True, the Democrats are not strong enough, but why are the Republicans being allowed to conduct themselves as if they have no responsibility to their voters?
12:49 AM on 12/14/2009
The Democrats are spending and spending and don't seem to care what anybody wants except for their own agenda.
All you see are smirky grins because they are trying to push this insurance mess down our throats...no matter what we think.
We need health care for everybody, but that isn't going to happen and it seems to be a battle about who is going to make the most money.
What does Pelosi and Reid care anyway. They are both old enough to retire if they don't get re elected and will get huge pensions and keep their insurance plans. They will be happy to push any insurance plan through so they will have a feather in their hats to show that they did it.
What do they care about what the peons think anyway. Apparently
we are to dumb to see through their "transparency."
Just because it is behind closed doors..they can tell us what they
want us to know behind a great big smoke screen.
02:32 PM on 12/14/2009
"pay no attention to the man behind the curtain"
12:37 AM on 12/14/2009
Wake up everyone - what the majority of Americans want no longer counts or matters to our representatives. It's what the corporations want - after all they are the ones who have donated regularly to our politicians' coffers. If we want it to be different, we need to be the ones who are donating to their campaign funds and we should be fighting for campaign financing reform immediately!
02:33 PM on 12/14/2009
or, at the very least, limit what they are allowed to accept in ways of campaign donations and gifts. every one of the politicians we have in elected office are bought and paid for, and busy ripping off the American people for everything they can get their grubby hands on before they are voted out again!
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03:03 PM on 12/15/2009
They tried that. Now they have people collecting and bundling their contributions.
You gotta watch your reps and vote the bad ones out. Complaining isn't going to change a thing.
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10:52 PM on 12/13/2009
Wait a minute. If PhRMA will LOSE One Billion, as in BILLION, dollars if this bill passes with the re-importation intact, then this thing stinks! I am a democrat, I support (generally) President Obama. I believed him when he made certain promises to us before his election. But if he is swayed merely by the millions of dollars lining the health care pockets from PhRMA then I feel duped!

I mean, I get these darling little emails telling me that my measly $5 donation will help to keep the Obama plan on track...but it appears that our small donations are being flushed in favor of the deep pocket pharmacy and insurance companies.

Besides, if PhRMA can afford to spend this amount of money on this lobby, then it must be making more obscene amounts than I ever imagined! THE DESERVE to be knocked back. I hope that our elected officials stop playing power games and start doing what is right for America.
12:52 AM on 12/14/2009
I throw the darling letters away that I get in the mail from the DNC asking for money.
How do we know what they are spending it on anyway.
Won't be the first time we have been lied to and it surely won't be
the last....no matter who is running the Government.
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03:05 PM on 12/15/2009
Why doesn't anyone ask why they aren't stopping the drug companies from gouging us in the first place? Who's zoomin' who?
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04:28 PM on 12/13/2009
The Obama whitehouse makes a deal with Multinational Pharmaceutical Companies many foreign owned. These companies manufacture all over the globe....so the scare about AMERICAN drugs coming into US from Canada is a scam.

I am deeply disappointed in the DEMS on this issue. Its bad enough we get bad gov't from Pelosi and Reid, but when Obama joins the act its a horror.
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03:06 PM on 12/15/2009
The President and administration do not write laws. Congress does. And we vote them in. So, who's got the most influence here?
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03:35 PM on 12/13/2009
Take away their health benefits.
02:37 PM on 12/14/2009
for heaven's sake!!! or at least make them take on the health care plan they have for the rest of us. I think we'd see some comfy little additions to all of our health care plans if that were the case!
12:12 PM on 12/13/2009
This whole thing is disgusting. A deal with PHARMA is a deal with the Devil. What is really awful is that the elected representatives of "the people" and corporations that depend on 'the people" continue to act against the best interests of "the people" - apparently for their own short term gain while "the people" remain powerless to counter this trend. This goes for both parties and all branches of government. When Obama was elected on the basis of a change from the "in-your-face" corruption and personal greed identified with the previous administration, many thought that there would be a real change. Guess what! It's better, but the ship is still headed for the iceberg! It seems obvious that the entire system of government in this country is broken, outdated, unrepresentative and unresponsive. The legislature and the executive continue to make deals with big-time lobbyists, acting as if the government belonged to them personally along with lobbyists, wealthy patrons and others who have been elected or appointed to office rather than to "the people". i see little difference in results between the Bush and Obama administrations. The attempt (if it can be called that) to provide free access to even the most basic medical services for all people in this country is an example of how far from real democracy and from a government "of the people, by the people and for the people" the country has drifted since those idealistic words were spoken.
02:41 PM on 12/14/2009
the problem is the sheer SIZE of our govt!!! you want to reduce the national debt? how about we FIRE CONGRESS!!! they're not doing a damn thing for us anyway! we could have taken a popular vote a year ago, made a REAL decision that actually represents the majority of Americans and we could have avoided all the paychecks we're handing to our elected officials to "represent us", which they are a long way from actually doing! if OUR voices had actually been heard, wall street would never have gotten that bailout! I think left and right leaning citizens can all agree on that. we knew then that we would not benefit from it, that we would just be stuck paying the tab when it's all over. oh wait, that will be my great grandchildren paying that tab!
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03:11 PM on 12/15/2009
A government of a country this size has to be large. Period. The public can hardly be bothered to get to the voting booth, perhaps planning the budgets might be a stretch.