Times Square Shooting Gun Tracked To Virginia

COLLEEN LONG   12/12/09 08:59 AM ET   AP

Times Square Shooting

NEW YORK — A machine pistol used by a street hustler and aspiring rapper shot dead in a Times Square gunfight was purchased from a Virginia gun shop by a woman who reported it stolen 10 days after she bought it, authorities said.

Raymond Martinez, who wrote songs about staring down cops in Times Square and hawked CDs to tourists, was carrying a stolen Mac-10 pistol and a pocketful of business cards from Virginia gun dealers – including the one where the gun was purchased – when he was killed by a plainclothes officer near the Marriott Marquis hotel, police said. The handgun, which held 30 rounds, jammed after Martinez got off three shots.

Jordan Kelsey-Stewart, 25, bought the weapon Oct. 18 from Dale's Guns in Powhatan, Va., chief NYPD police spokesman Paul Browne said Friday. Officials with Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives are trying to find her and are investigating whether she had any connection to Martinez; a telephone listing for her could not immediately be found on Friday.

Police said Kelsey-Stewart reported the gun stolen from her car Oct. 28 in Richmond, Va. It was unclear how Martinez obtained it, and there was some evidence he owned it for only a brief period of time – weeks at most and perhaps just days.

Investigators also were trying to determine whether Martinez had other weapons. They said they found a .22-caliber handgun during a police search of Martinez's home on Friday.

"We're actively investigating whether he was involved in purchasing firearms," Browne said.

Dale Blankenship, who owns Dale's Guns, said he provided the information about who bought the gun to the ATF earlier Friday. He said Kelsey-Stewart was from the Richmond area, had all the proper identification and passed a background check when she purchased the weapon.

Blankenship said she bought the gun by herself. He didn't know what happened to the gun after he sold it.

"I have no idea," he told The Associated Press. "I don't know how the gun was stolen."

Martinez, 25, went by the rap name "Ready" and regularly sold CDs for his group, Square Free, in Times Square. He was part of a freelance collection of hawkers who sell self-produced wares on the street.

Police said Martinez ran a scam in which he would autograph a CD or put a passerby's name on it, and then demand payment of $10. He had been arrested June 19 at 1515 Broadway, the exact same location where Thursday's confrontation started, for not having a tax stamp, which allows hawkers to sell their self-produced wares.

Vendors selling their own work are protected by the First Amendment and fall outside the stricter regulation of vendors selling retail goods.

The sheer number of vendors in Times Square and their aggressiveness lead to frequent confrontations with authorities trying to catch counterfeiters and protect tourists from scams.

Martinez and his brother are well known to regular Times Square denizens and videos of them rapping and getting hassled by police are posted on YouTube. In one shaky video, Martinez shouts, "They ain't taking me nowhere!" and "I'm ready to lay some down!" as officers, their hands in their pockets, escort him from the area. His lyrics talk of hawking CDs and staring down cops.

Sgt. Christopher Newsom usually works in uniform on a task force that tracks aggressive peddling. He was in plainclothes when he stopped Martinez on Thursday and asked him for his tax stamp, setting off the chase and shootout.

Josiah Deandrea, who was distributing fliers Friday to a comedy act a block from the shooting scene, said he had seen Martinez in the area in the past.

"Nobody had any idea he had a gun," Deandrea said.

Daniel O'Phalen, 24, who passes out fliers in Times Square for the musical "White Christmas," said Martinez was part of a regular crew of CD salesmen. Sometimes, he said, the group would order him off a corner, saying he was on their territory.

"They're pushy. They're not nice guys," he said.

Still, it's rare that police encounters with peddlers escalate to gunfire.

"These are usually quality-of-life violations, and they typically do not escalate, they don't involve violators being armed," Browne said.

If Martinez had recently gone looking for a gun, it wouldn't have been unusual for him to look out of state.

Because buying a firearm is so difficult in New York, people barred from owning pistols here often travel south to shop at gun shows where there are no required background checks for people buying secondhand weapons. Martinez didn't have a license to own a firearm.

There is also a steady supply of guns purchased at southern gun shops and smuggled north.

Mayor Michael Bloomberg has been a fierce critic of gun stores with a record of selling weapons that later wound up in the hands of criminals, suing several of them in recent years for reckless conduct and driving several out of business.

"This is one of the great public health threats. And our police officers are clearly in danger," the mayor said Friday.

The machine pistol like the type used Thursday are rare in the city: only 26 have been recovered so far this year, compared with 5,427 other guns. In 2008, there were 46 recovered, and 5,959 other guns.

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Associated Press writers Cristian Salazar, David B. Caruso, Adam Goldman, Ula Ilnytzky and Sara Kugler in New York and Dena Potter in Richmond, Va., contributed to this report.

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OdinsEye
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02:41 PM on 12/14/2009
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/ny_crime/2009/12/10/2009-12-10_the_mac10_the_gun_used_in_time_square_shooting.html

For those still incorrectly saying the firearm was a machine pistol.
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12:59 PM on 12/14/2009
I know that it’s the Christmas Season and that an extra measure of charity toward our fellow man is the order of the day, but this is just too much!

Nivekian wrote: “It was still a Mac-10 styled assault weapon. This isn't a 5- 8 round pistol or slide automatic handgun with a 7-15 round clip…” Another stellar quote: “…it's rare to find anyone who actually points out these types of small-arm military style weapons do not belong in the hands of civilians in the first place.”

You really have no idea what you’re jabbering about, do you? Please describe a “slide automatic handgun.” Define the term “assault weapon.” And just exactly what is a “small-arm military style weapon?”

Please do some HONEST research (vs. sifting through Brady Campaign & VPC talking points!) before you answer. But, here is a small hint: No military on the planet issues, except perhaps for some training course, the Ingram MAC-10!

Good luck with this!
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01:12 PM on 12/14/2009
I did not mean to play "Top of the Post" here. This comment was intended to be in response to "Nivekian" down near the bottom of the page. I was having problems logging in & in my haste, posted a new string at the top.

My apologies to all participants!
Old SF MJT
03:02 PM on 12/14/2009
OLD SF--last time I checked, the BC and VPC were not exactly known for sterling integrity
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03:22 PM on 12/14/2009
Ya' think?!?! :) That's why I suggested some "honest research." The stuff Nivekian was putting out was almost humorous, it was so ridiculous!

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OdinsEye
Korean-Latino cop and combat vet
12:35 PM on 12/14/2009
Thirdpower is correct, this was not a MAC-10 machine pistol. Actually, there never was a "MAC-10". A company whose initials were MAC made an "M-10". It was shortened in slang to "MAC-10".

Machine pistols are a type of machine gun and as such fire full-auto (1 trigger pull = bang, bang, bang,...).

The firearm in this case was an MPA930T-A. This is a semi-auto 9mm pistol (1 trigger pull = 1 bang). Functionally it is not much different than any semi-auto 9mm pistol like those made by Beretta, Walther, Taurus, Springfield, S&W, Glock, etc. They all fire the same ammo, they all have the same power, they all can accept large capacity magazines, and they all have about the same rate of fire. The big difference is the MPA930 looks like a machine gun.
07:45 AM on 12/14/2009
"Dale Blankenship, who owns Dale's Guns, said he provided the information about who bought the gun to the ATF earlier Friday. He said Kelsey-Stewart was from the Richmond area, had all the proper identification and passed a background check when she purchased the weapon."

That would be a Federal background check for those who don't bother reading.
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bluejoni2525
and we've got to get ourselves back to the garden
12:17 AM on 12/14/2009
That is why all gun laws need to be federal !! State laws are almost useless !!!
Berettasskeeter
For what we are about to receive, may we be truly
01:45 PM on 12/14/2009
So, you support giving all power to the federal govt, and removing all power from state governments, in violation of the 10th Amendment?!
Semper fi
11:24 PM on 12/13/2009
Virginia?? What a shock... I never would have guessed.
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lisakaz2
Da ministero dell'interno di Snark.
11:09 PM on 12/13/2009
Of course, those gun dealers won't care. It's a wonder they don't sell heroin too.
11:47 PM on 12/13/2009
It's a wonder that anyone wouldn't be allowed to.
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OdinsEye
Korean-Latino cop and combat vet
12:37 PM on 12/14/2009
The dealer did everything the was he was supposed to. It was a perfectly legal purchase. The dealer has no control over the firearm being stolen for the legal purchasor.
06:46 PM on 12/13/2009
A 'Machine Pistol' is a fully automatic firearm costing thousands of dollars, requiring federal tax stamps, licensing and background checks.

This was a POS semi-auto replica that, like what happened here, has a history of jamming and breaking.

But it's much easier to get flashy headlines by modifying the facts.

http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2009/12/12/times-square-shooter-gun-not-a-machine-pistol/