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Health Care Reform Won't Do Much About Huge Hospital Bills

First Posted: 03/18/10 06:12 AM ET Updated: 05/25/11 03:55 PM ET

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Faith Ozan is furious about her son's hospital bill. She claims that Santa Barbara Cottage Hospital charged nearly 3,000 percent more for drugs used to treat her 24-year-old son's tooth infection than the price listed for the drugs in an antibiotics guide. Even though insurance covered 70 percent of the cost of the treatment, the Ozans are on the hook for thousands of dollars.

"It's just scandalous," said Ozan, a music teacher for kids with autism who lives in Laguna Beach, Calif. "We are struggling to pay bills."

After Ozan sent letters to the hospital, the insurance company and her elected representatives, she learned that the hospital has the right to charge whatever it wants. It's a common practice -- hospitals inflate insured patients' bills to cover the cost of treating Medicare and Medicaid patients and the uninsured.

So now Ozan wants to know: What will health care reform proposals in Congress do about big bills from hospitals?

Directly, almost nothing. Both the House and Senate bills contain provisions to bring some transparency to the billing process by requiring hospitals to make public what they charge for their most common inpatient and outpatient services.

"If hospitals have to publish charges, they'll be ashamed to tell people how much more they're charging," said Tim Jost, a professor and expert on health reform at Washington and Lee University law school. Jost was skeptical that shame would be an extremely effective incentive for hospitals: "They might charge less."

Indirectly, the broader reforms of the proposals -- which would drastically shrink the ranks of the uninsured -- could lower bills by reducing the need for hospitals to shift costs from the uninsured to the insured. "The hope is that hospitals will be better compensated after the reforms," Jost added.

Janet O'Neill, a spokeswoman for Santa Barbara Cottage Hospital, said the hospital would not comment on any individual patient. But she told the Huffington Post that the hospital is under-reimbursed for Medicare and Medi-Cal patients.

"Here at Cottage, we receive 72 percent of cost for every dollar for Medicare. And for Medi-Cal we get 49 cents on the dollar, so what happens to the shortfall there? It needs to be shifted," O'Neill said. "Hospital care is the most expensive way to get your care."

Jost didn't have a ton of sympathy for the hospital.

"I wouldn't be surprised if Medicare doesn't pay them very well but that's no excuse for price gouging," he said. "I don't think this is a problem that's going to be solved very well by the legislation."

Ozan didn't feel the hospital's pain, either, especially not after reading a November article about the hospital's "exceptionally solid profitability," per Fitch Ratings. When she looked up the hospital's tax filings, she saw that the hospital had a surplus of $52.7 million in 2007. It can't be that Medicare patients are causing financial hardship for the hospital, she reasoned: "That idea flies in the face of their enormous profit."

But if price gouging is in fact taking place, health care reform will probably prevent it from bankrupting insured patients the way it does now. Both the House and Senate bills place limits on out-of-pocket costs. The House bill, for instance, limits the amount a family would be asked to spend for its own care to $10,000 a year.


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Faith Ozan is furious about her son's hospital bill. She claims that Santa Barbara Cottage Hospital charged nearly 3,000 percent more for drugs used to treat her 24-year-old son's tooth infection than...
Faith Ozan is furious about her son's hospital bill. She claims that Santa Barbara Cottage Hospital charged nearly 3,000 percent more for drugs used to treat her 24-year-old son's tooth infection than...
 
 
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10:07 PM on 01/08/2010
The Santa Barbara Hospital is not cost shifting- they are Cost SHIFTY- they have no interest in anything other than exhibiting enormous wealth- by sucking dry every wallet that comes thru their doors. 3000% mark up for antibiotics- they should be ashamed of themselves. If this is cost shifting- how is it they racked up $54,000,000- just how does one shift that kind of money to themselves? One wallet at a time....
02:26 PM on 12/16/2009
We shouldn't hesitate to ask "Why?," "How much?" and "Is it necessary?" Check out this fun, short video. It makes you wonder why out health care system is set up the way it is.
www.whatstherealcost.org/45secondstoshare
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blueken
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09:04 AM on 12/16/2009
Our heatlh care industrial complex is completely dysfunctional, yet millions of Americans defend it. That's because the cost is hidden when employers pick up most of the tab. My employer pays $15,000 a year for my wife and I. The insurance companies really don't have much incentive to keep costs down, because they run a cost plus business. There is no competition among health care providers because state regulations usually keep the number of providers down to less than a dozen, and they are all useing the same hospitals and doctors. Because of large numbers of un-insured that use the hospitals as a last resort for health care, the hospitals have to over charge the insurance companies, who in turn over charge you employers. This doesn't really work well for hospitals either, look how many have closed in the last 10 years. The only sector of the health care industry that profits from this dysfunctional system is the drug and insurance industry. They get to charge cost plus.
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caseyblab
07:05 PM on 12/15/2009
We were just charged $700 for 2 chest xrays at a hospital in Texas. It is an absolute scandal that the consumer has to basically hand over a credit card to whoever feels like ordering a test. You dont know who made the decision, what options you have, or if the price is negotiable. Why are we even called consumers?
06:52 PM on 12/15/2009
The $25.00 aspirin shouldn't be allowed.

You can buy a bottle for $1.49

People should have a right to bring in their own medications.
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09:36 PM on 12/15/2009
Can't be allowed! Hospitals couldn't guarantee the sterility of drugs brought in from outside!
03:49 PM on 12/15/2009
The Democratic Party will enrage and lose a whole generation of voters if they mandate young healthy voters to buy into their "Fathers" garbage health plans !! This is not "Change to Believe In ".
01:58 PM on 12/15/2009
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01:21 PM on 12/15/2009
Assuming, after the Democratic congress gets through screwing with health care, that there are any hospitals left in operation. Quite a few appear likely to go bankrupt and fold.
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garymc8
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12:55 PM on 12/15/2009
REMOVE ALL BENEFITS FROM EVERY ELECTED POSITION LOCAL, STATE AND FED.
08:36 AM on 12/15/2009
But Democrats promise that these bills are the change we need. They wouldn't lie would they?
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08:39 AM on 12/15/2009
And Republicans are just down right proud of their insurance company lobbyists and their campaign financier the Insurance Industry.

Oh lets just vote no on everything so the the Insurance companies can continue their legal robbery.
01:23 PM on 12/15/2009
1) The insurance companies' profit margin is NOT excessive.
2) Nobody's robbing anybody other than the government, the only entity legally authorized to rob people. It's called "taxes" and "fees" and "fines," etc.
09:23 PM on 12/14/2009
Don't worry it won't stay like that. Joe Lieberman wants to change it for you, to $100, 000 max.

This bill just gets weaker and more of a give away to the medical industry at the consumers expense, every single day. Its not going to help anyone very much at all when all is said and done.

Friedman is right. If we are doomed to suffer under such inept and corrupt government, things cannot get better unless the government is fixed.
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08:34 PM on 12/14/2009
Scrap the entire health care bill, and start over. Single Payer from the start, Single Payer at the end.
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CTtransplant
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06:44 PM on 12/14/2009
Interesting - right now, my husband and I have a max of $6K ($3K each) per year out of pocket...but the new bill is going to change that to $10K? That's really helpful, isn't it!
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BruceHNV
07:01 PM on 12/14/2009
No - it brings it DOWN to $10K for people whose max out-of pocket is higher, or is unlimited. If yours is already lower, it still will be.
04:28 PM on 12/14/2009
My son is the patient in this story. Consumers can find the cost of many drugs on Johns Hopkins ABX*, and the breakdown in this case was:

AMPICILLIN/Sulbactam
Hospital Cost* per unit $10.00
Cottage Hospital charge on son's bill per unit $ 378.00

MOXIFLOXACIN IV 400 mg
Hospital Cost* per unit $ 43.75
Cottage Hospital charge on son's bill per unit $557.00

VANCOMYCIN inj. 1 gram
Hospital Cost* per unit $ 9.75
Cottage Hospital charge on son's bill per unit $ 387.00

Total Hospital Costs* for Medication = $ 187.54
Total Cottage Hospital Charged for Medication = $ 5, 625.00

There were many other charges on the hospital bill, of course, and the hospital stands behind them all. A 2004 report by the Institute for Health and Socio-Economic Policy wrote the average national markup on drugs is 399% (not 3,000%) and that the most expensive US hospitals "ranked in the top 10% of markups on charges reported an average of $14.8 million in profits" (this hospital reported $ 52.7 million in 'excess' on their IRS form 990). Cottage Hospital's justification that markups are used to balance out for their population of uninsured patients doesn't seem to square up with their profits. The report mentioned earlier correlates hospital markups with industry profits, and cites markups as a major factor exacerbating the nation's health care crisis; the disastrous financial consequences for patients are all too well known, unfortunately.
04:45 PM on 12/14/2009
In my last three hospital bills (from two different hospitals, incidents years a part) I was double billed for a portion of my bill months after having paid them and having received receipts from the hospitals. Out of the three, I was only able to get out of paying one of the double-billed bills after turning it over to a lawyer when the hospitals turned me over to a credit reporting agency. I just pay for a permanent legal service now. I wish you had some recourse. The hospitals admins are crooks these days.
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05:58 PM on 12/14/2009
I am glad to have the additional information. As a nurse, I know that the hospitals charge not to just dispense the meds, but to administer them.
If you had obtained them through a pharmacy and administered them yourself, at home, you would have saved a lot of money. There are alternatives to hospitalization, which are seldom explained to patients in emergency rooms.
That's one heck of a "tooth infection." It must have invaded the valves in his heart. I hope he's recovered.
07:12 PM on 02/11/2010
Most people don't understand all the costs that are included in an emergency room visit. They utilize the emergency room as if it were an urgent care center or their physician's office. It is like comparing the cost of your meal at a fast food restaurant to the cost of a meal at a 5-star restaurant.

If people sought care from a more appropriate source, healthcare costs would definitately lower costs.
03:06 PM on 12/14/2009
The problem with insurance and covering hospital stays lies with the cost of nursing care being lumped in with the room rate. Some patients are very self reliant in the hospital yet because of case payments, these patients are charged as much as patients who require constant nursing care or even 1:1 observation. If insurance would pay for nursing care separately by how much attention a patient needed there would be no excuse for hospitals to over charge for supplies and medications etc. The hospital is adding to the cost of the pill the cost of the employees to get it to you and to make sure it isnt interacting with whatever condition brought you to the hospital. Taking tylenol when you have liver failure in the hospital isnt the same as taking tylenol at home for a stomachache, If insurance companies would pay for actual nursing care, the room rate could be adjusted based on the amenities a patient wants as well as supplies.. a patient could save a lot by bringing their own food or tissues or wearing their own clothes if all these costs werent lumped in with nursing...