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Sen. Nelson: Abortion Compromise 'Not Sufficient'

DAVID ESPO   12/17/09 09:38 PM ET   AP

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WASHINGTON — A year in the making, sweeping health care legislation backed by President Barack Obama hung in the balance Thursday as conservative Democratic Sen. Ben Nelson withheld his vote in pursuit of stricter abortion limits and liberals grew restive on the left.

Any lingering hopes the bill's supporters had of a Republican casting a critical 60th vote vanished when Sen. Olympia Snowe, R-Maine, said after a meeting with Obama that the Democrats' timetable for a pre-Christmas vote was "totally unrealistic."

Nelson, the most conservative Democrat in the Senate, was vague throughout the day about his intentions, eventually telling reporters, "I hope we're getting closer" to agreement.

"Without modifications, the language concerning abortion is not sufficient," he said earlier in the day in a written statement that summarized the results of days of private negotiations. The second-term Nebraskan opposes the procedure and wants tighter restrictions written into the overhaul.

With Nelson's support, the White House and Senate Democrats would command 60 votes for the health care measure, enough to overcome a Republican filibuster and pass the bill within a matter of days.

Without it, the prospects are far more uncertain, given unyielding Republican opposition on the conservative right as well as growing expressions of unhappiness on the left that sent the White House scrambling.

"The absolute refusal of Republicans in the Senate to support health care reform and the hijacking of the bill by defenders of the insurance industry have brought us a Senate bill that is inadequate," Richard Trumka, head of the AFL-CIO, said in a statement.

His criticism of GOP lawmakers aside, Trumka's blast seemed aimed at Nelson, Joe Lieberman, I-Conn., and possibly other members of the Senate Democratic caucus who have successfully stripped the legislation of any form of government-run insurance option.

Andrew Stern, head of the Service Employees International Union, said he, too, was deeply disappointed in the bill.

But like Trumka, he stopped short of urging its defeat. Not so Howard Dean, the former national party chairman, who has said he would oppose the legislation because it does not include a strong enough role for the government in a remade health care system. Dean unleashed his criticism this week after Lieberman won the deletion of a proposed expansion of Medicare from the bill.

Overall, the legislation is designed to extend coverage to millions who lack it, ban insurance company practices such as denying coverage because of pre-existing conditions and slow the rise in medical spending nationwide.

The bill would require most Americans to purchase insurance, and it includes hundreds of billions of dollars in subsidies to help lower- and middle-class families afford it.

The White House dispatched strategist David Axelrod to answer liberal critics in television interviews. Former President Bill Clinton, who failed to win a health care overhaul in the 1990s, issued a statement saying, "Allowing this effort to fall short now would be a colossal blunder, both politically for our party and, far more important, for the physical, fiscal, and economic health of our country."

Liberal supporters of the measure in the Senate renewed their support, as well. Sen. Tom Harkin, D-Iowa, said debates "leading to the passage of Social Security in 1935 and Medicare in 1965 were no less turbulent and partisan." In the current case, he added, "We have had to make painful compromises," but he predicted what will be remembered is that "President Obama achieved his No. 1 domestic priority and that Congress passed a big, historic bill."

Perhaps, but not yet.

Abortion wasn't the only issue Thursday, just the one commanding the most public attention.

Sen. Amy Klobuchar, D-Minn., a supporter of the legislation, said she was involved in talks to cushion the impact on nonprofit insurance companies from the effects of a new industrywide tax. She also sought to ease the effects on small businesses from the tax on medical device makers.

While Nelson sent somewhat conflicting signals during the day, the anti-abortion Catholic Health Association issued an unambiguously optimistic statement on the compromise talks to date on the issue.

"Especially now that a public health insurance option is no longer on the table, we are increasingly confident that Senator Casey's language can achieve the objective of no federal funding for abortion," said Carol Keehan, the group's president and chief executive officer. "We look forward to reviewing the final language these improvements contemplate."

Sen. Bob Casey, a Pennsylvania Democrat with strong anti-abortion credentials, has been leading efforts to find a compromise that could win Nelson's support without jeopardizing the bill's support among lawmakers on the other side.

Nelson, in an interview with KLIN radio in his home state, he said he was dissatisfied with a proposed compromise on abortion and cast doubt on whether there was still time to complete work on the legislation before Christmas, the informal deadline set by the Democratic leadership.

He also said abortion wasn't his only concern.

"That's not enough," he said, adding that the bill's proposed expansion of Medicaid could wind up costing his state money.

A few hours later, his office issued a more tempered written statement, noting that the proposal included "important new initiatives addressing teen pregnancy and tax credits to help with adoptions." It did not speculate about whether the bill might pass by Christmas.

A draft of the proposal also would permit consumers to opt out of abortion coverage, and require insurance companies to cut premiums for those who do.

Abortion played a similar, critical role last month in the final stages of the House debate.

There, abortion foes succeeded in winning significantly strengthened restrictions in the legislation.

Nelson, backed by the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops and others, is now out to accomplish the same mission.

As drafted, the measure bans the use of federal funds to finance abortions under insurance to be sold in a newly created exchange, except in cases of rape, incest or danger to the life of the mother. The plans could provide abortion coverage, however, that consumers would purchase with their own money held apart from any federal subsidies they receive.

That approach draws criticism from abortion opponents who argue it is an accounting gimmick.

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Associated Press writers Ricardo Alonso-Zaldivar and Erica Werner contributed to this report.

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09:43 PM on 12/20/2009
Hius constituents already know he can babble on for hours and not say anything of substance, now he wants to prove it to the whole country.
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TxAnna
01:37 PM on 12/19/2009
I am so over this tired-looking, bilbous, self-righteous, sanctimonious, poor excuse for a Senator! This veneer of pro-life concern is a poor cover for the fact that he's a toady for the insurance companies! I mean, he's an ex-health insurance executive for gosh sakes! Even if he weren't doing all of this just for the bucks, how is it that he gets to foist his personal, religious beliefs on the rest of us? I say, if he doesn't believe in abortion that's his option, but he has no right to force that belief on the rest of us legislatively. Why is it that the only reproductive rights that are ever constrained are those of women, never of men? And, why is that pretty much the only people we ever see front and center trying to constrain the right of women to be in control of their own bodies are old, white men?
pissedmichael
The name was an accident, please excuse
11:17 AM on 12/19/2009
Amusing. Always willing to shoot their mouths off about a position which, as men, they should have absolutely no say. All about garnering votes from the idiotic.
As a man, I find this behavior to be the height of hypocrisy. I think I was about 13 when I knew this issue was not in the male purview, and rightfully so. Why? I just feel that, until I'm ready to pass a large orange through my wee-wee, my participation is not warranted or needed.
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TxAnna
01:10 AM on 12/20/2009
Orange?! You'd be having a VERY small baby. The correct fruit is watermelon! Now, how how does that feel?
pissedmichael
The name was an accident, please excuse
11:08 AM on 12/20/2009
Passing through my wee-wee? Nah.
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catbite
10:22 AM on 12/19/2009
when old gray haired men in politics continue to restrict a woman's right to carry and bear a child, it's time to vote them out of office. Have we made no further progress on this issue? Keep religious beliefs out of women's healthcare.
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rgilley
Question Authority!
08:20 AM on 12/19/2009
Nelson is using abortion to protest the interest of big insurance and Pharmaceuticals.
He is a conservative, a member of the same cabal that got us where we are today!

Throw the bum out!!
07:26 PM on 12/18/2009
Go ahead and make concessions to Nelson.

But then don't be surprised when Lieberman pops up with another ludicrous objection, or Lincoln does, or Landrieu does, or fill-in-the-blank does. Then run back to Snowe and make more concessions for her vote.

They're tag-teamin' ya for goodness sakes.

We're gonna end up with a bill that transfers Medicare to the private insurance industry, subsidized by taxpayer money (borrowed from China of course).
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billw8017
History looks like this
09:58 PM on 12/18/2009
Paranoia and bitterness are our portion. It has been said, we are getting an unusual lesson on the making of laws -- and this is where that "transparency" gets you. A bill by Christmas seems ungodly unlikely, but the subject might come up again through the spring. If anybody has the stomach to go through all this again, some Republicans might come over once they have either made it through the primaries or have lost and might be willing either to go for revenge or conclude with a public service.

The ISSUE of the 2010 elections will be jobs, but a decent medical reform might tip some kind of balance.

What we should always remember is that Democratic leaders, Pelosi, Reid, and Obama, have moved heaven and earth on behalf of reform. Republican obduracy (I really like this word: it says just what i mean and it's the truth) has empowered the half dozen most right wing Democrats.
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billw8017
History looks like this
10:07 PM on 12/18/2009
Just one small quibble: We are not borrowing "money" from China. We are taking their products, and they are holding on to our money to prevent a devaluation of the dollar that might make American manufactures competitive. While their "gift" of goods is split between consumers who get lower prices and the Walton families who have become among the richest Americans, it is destroying our real economy.

Fortunately, like any "borrowing' for invariable costs, this borrowing is intrinsically unsustainable. I don't know when or how, but we will come back.
11:12 PM on 12/18/2009
Hi billw8017, it is refreshing to get a polite rebuttal and for that I thank you. However, I have a quibble with you quibble :-)

The Treasury issues bonds to finance our debt of which as of May 2009, the Chinese Central Bank held $772 billion worth.

This is money that the taxpayers are on the hook for and is separate and distinct from the problem you describe.
05:55 PM on 12/18/2009
A quote from Nelson ""There's always a lot of room you have to have between the bid and the ask, and we're seeing if we can close the gap."
Yeah, but it is our health care you are trading with.Trade with your health care.
We are dealing with people that just don't care about us. This guy is mixing abortion bs with health care reform. Someone always trying to ice skate uphill !
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Joseph J Schuler
Sic semper theocratus
03:41 PM on 12/18/2009
To all of teh citizens of Nebraska. Vote this turkey out. He is trying to inject his religious beliefs into law.
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04:25 PM on 12/18/2009
Most legislation reflects religious and moral beliefs. What's so special about THIS proposed amendment?
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Osusuki
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03:25 PM on 12/19/2009
Not so different. It's just that Ben Nelson (like most Nebraskans, evidently) has no clue that you can't legislate morality. That, and this is a very important piece of legislation to which input from holier-than-thou prairie preachers and the Catholic Bishops' lobby should be disallowed. The abortion debate has no place in the health care debate. Period.
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judesuper
An Arizonan, a voter, & a snarky progressive!
03:06 PM on 12/18/2009
I am sick and tired of these old hasbeens trying to claim their last few minutes in the spotlight by ruining the chances of a good health care bill.

I say let the losers filibuster the bill. Make them attend each and every minute. This will show everyone the folks that want to help us attain a solid health care reform, and the T00LS that don't.

Harry, why are you so afraid to let the opposition filibuster? Once over, then you can take an up or down vote. Fifty plus the VP will win. Why are you such a coward? Let us watch these losers whine, cry and complain. It will only hurt them. What's the problem?
11:31 AM on 12/18/2009
You'll get More stories and updates on Health Care Bill-

http://www.lipmantimes.com/?p=9390
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AnotherAngle
Joe Biden -- the gift that keeps on giving
11:16 AM on 12/18/2009
According to the Planned Parenthood website, an In-Clinic abortion "Costs about $350–$900 in the first trimester".

http://www.plannedparenthood.org/health-topics/abortion/in-clinic-abortion-procedures-4359.htm

So, 40,000 people in the United States will die next year just to protect a woman's *right* NOT TO PAY for an elective medical procedure that in some cases costs less than $500, that only one out of three WOMEN will even think about having at a maxium occurance of ONCE per year (I pray). Forty thousand people will go without needed medical coverage, just in case you DECIDE to have an abortion?

That's right folks.

The mere *right* to have a free abortion outweighs the plausable death of 40,000 uncovered citizens.

Ain't That America!
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Joe Biden -- the gift that keeps on giving
12:01 PM on 12/18/2009
*and plausible too
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Patriot86
Compassion is the basis of all morality.
01:15 PM on 12/18/2009
This is not about having a free abortion. I do not even believe in abortion but I believe in a womans right to be the owner of her own body...no public money will go to abortion, the Hyde amendment takes care of that...what Nelson and his buddies want is to make it so any medical facility that is part of this government plan...ie receives subsidies won't offer the procedure period even if a woman uses her own funds. Thus who will provide the service? No one. It is a backdoor approach to make abortion illegal. I am absolutely against this and would rather see this useless bill go down in flames then send women back to the butchers with coat hangers.
BeerRun
GOP = Grand Oligarch Party
01:43 PM on 12/18/2009
I agree it's amazing how short peoples memories are.
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04:30 PM on 12/18/2009
alarmist cr@p.

If you are so committed to ab0rti0n on every street-corner, organize private foundations to build and operate clinics, subsidize the procedure, train professionals to staff the clinics, etc.

Private charities operate shelters (human and animal), hospitals, schools, etc. Vote with YOUR dollars. Not mine.

These limitations on the funding in no way impinge on the legality--they may MAY decrease the convenience of access, little else.
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BoyInBOYCOTT
11:08 AM on 12/18/2009
Name the Healthcare bill

"Vatican decreed next best thing to healthcare"
10:38 AM on 12/18/2009
What the Democrats won't tell you is that they oppose a free market.

A free market allows EVERYONE to shop for insurance across state borders. Competition in the free market will force insurance companies to drop their premiums to increase business.

What the Democrats won't tell you is that they oppose individual choice.

Individual choice allows you, the consumer, to shop and select the coverage that best suits you. It's not a one size fits all, and this will allow insurance companies to customize your policy to fit your needs and budget.

What the Democrats won't tell you is that they oppose less regulation and restriction.

The trusted liberals won't tell you that you cannot file a law suit against Medicare for any reason. If they refuse a claim, tough! You have to accept that. You cannot fight it. If a private insurance company refuses a claim, you have that right.

Just imagine how healthcare would be if the Democrats took away insurance options for government run care. Then took away your choice so you have to participate in a one size fits all for the same price. Then took away your defense because the government makes those decisions and now you cannot file suit to protect your insurance. Once healthcare is in government hands, you cannot even file suit against your doctor because they will be associated as a Medicare Providor.....
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10:44 AM on 12/18/2009
Excellent points tx. Thanks!
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StillweRise
11:12 AM on 12/18/2009
Democrats won't tell you any of that because its all bullschmidt.

have a great day.
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10:32 AM on 12/18/2009
Leave in the Medicare buy in. Extend it to all ages. Then make them filibuster the bill. Make sure the senate floor is on television 24x7 during the filibuster. The longer it goes on, the worse it gets for the Republican party and the conservative Democrats. I can wait a few more months for real reform.

I understand that whatever then Senate passes is not the final bill. It will go to a conference committee. However, if both bills start out with a public or medicare option, the probability of coming out of conference with it still in is much higher. It takes away the argument that the house had to cave to the senate to get something done. Say what you want about Nancy Pelosi, but between her and Reid and Obama, she is the only one who has executed.

Besides watching a filibuster would be fun!
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AnotherAngle
Joe Biden -- the gift that keeps on giving
10:35 AM on 12/18/2009
You can count on it.

"Transparency and the rule of law will be the touchstones of this presidency," Obama said.
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Aerows
10:28 AM on 12/18/2009
I'm waiting for there to be another reason it can't possibly pass - we are now arguing about abortion, which is a highly controversial subject. Are we going to drag gay marriage into the health care debate, too?

It has to be a guaranteed give away to the Health Insurance lobby and big PhRMA. This is all theater, folks. They are playing poker with the American people trying to wear us down to the point that we will support any health care reform, and their idea of "reform" means we are required to pay for a plan that benefits no one but the health insurance companies.

This is theater to take our attention off of the fact that we are wasting billions in Afghanistan in a war we aren't even trying to win.