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New Jobless Claims Fall Unexpectedly

CHRISTOPHER S. RUGABER   12/31/09 08:54 PM ET   AP

WASHINGTON — The number of newly laid-off workers filing claims for unemployment benefits dropped unexpectedly last week, a sign the job market is healing as the economy slowly recovers.

New jobless claims have dropped steadily since September, raising hopes that the economy may soon begin creating jobs and the unemployment rate could decline. That, in turn, would give households more money to spend and add fuel to the broader economic rebound that began earlier this year.

The Labor Department said Thursday that new claims for unemployment insurance fell by 22,000 to a seasonally adjusted 432,000, the lowest since July 2008. That's much better than the rise to 460,000 that Wall Street economists expected.

The four-week average, which smooths fluctuations, fell for the 17th straight week to 460,250, the lowest since September 2008, when the financial crisis intensified. The crisis led to widespread mass layoffs, which sent jobless claims to as high as 674,000 last spring.

Analysts cautioned that the weekly data could be artificially low due to seasonal factors, such as the Christmas holiday and recent snowstorms.

Still, many economists saw the claims figures as a positive sign that employers could soon step up hiring. Abiel Reinhart, an economist at JPMorgan Chase, said in a note to clients that he estimates employers added a net total of 40,000 jobs in December, after cutting 11,000 the previous month.

The Labor Department will report the unemployment rate and jobs figures Jan. 8. Reinhart said the December jobless rate will likely be 10 percent, matching the previous month and down from 10.2 percent, a 26-year high, in October.

Still, most economists expect the unemployment rate to remain above 9 percent through 2010, as companies are likely to hire at a slow pace as they wait to see if the current recovery continues.

The stock market fell slightly in morning trading. The Dow Jones industrial average dipped 24 points, while broader indexes also edged down.

Economists closely monitor initial claims, which are considered a gauge of the pace of layoffs and an indication of companies' willingness to hire new workers.

The number of jobless workers continuing to claim benefits, meanwhile, dropped by 57,000 to 4.9 million, also better than the increase that analysts expected.

But the so-called continuing claims do not include millions of people that have used up the regular 26 weeks of benefits typically provided by states, and are receiving extended benefits for up to 73 additional weeks, paid for by the federal government.

About 4.8 million people were receiving extended benefits in the week ended Dec. 12, the latest data available, an increase of 200,000 from the previous week. The rise is partly a result of another extension of benefits by Congress in November.

President Obama earlier this month signed legislation that continues the extended federal benefits for the first two months of next year. That will prevent about 2 million jobless workers from running out of benefits in January and February, according to an estimate by the National Employment Law Project, a nonprofit group.

But up to a million additional people could run out of benefits in March if the emergency benefits aren't continued for the rest of the year, the NELP has said.

Among the states, Michigan had the largest increase in initial claims, with 8,382, which it attributed to layoffs in the auto industry. California, Florida, Iowa and Missouri saw the next largest increases. The state data lags initial claims by one week.

Tennessee saw the largest decrease, of 2,972, followed by Illinois, Pennsylvania, Georgia and North Carolina.

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12:49 AM on 01/02/2010
Those numbers are false. The dropoff is due to unemployment ran out for many. Therfore, they can't file anymore. Not buying it!!
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William1950
everything I say could be wrong
12:02 AM on 01/02/2010
I would like to know how many people have run out of unemployment benefits... when you drop off the rolls you are no longer counted... doesn't matter if you have no job... so the numbers are not accurate anyway. how many people have taken jobs paying less than half of what they used to make? how many people are now working two or three part time jobs? ..
we can make it through this mess... but I really wish the spin would just stop. Be honest with us... for years we have been told that the economy was just fine... even while our wages have been stagnant or dropping, and costs of everything was going through the roof... pay no attention to the man behind the curtain ! you have the same glasses for ten years because you can't afford to get new ones, but damn ! the yacht sales are up, so things are rosy in denmark.
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sueinmn
11:53 AM on 01/02/2010
How many people simply have no jobs to take? Im laid off 1 1/2 years now. Ive all but given up as there are no jobs. My town is still seeing lay offs and downsizing. Who are they fooling? I worked construction and its gonna be stagnant for years to come!
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msjimmied
04:22 PM on 01/01/2010
Would you believe a 32% error in the count? Things that make you go hmmm.....

http://www.zerohedge.com/article/government-misrepresenting-unemployment-32
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4TJefferson
Promote the General Welfare
06:42 PM on 01/01/2010
No.
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msjimmied
08:34 PM on 01/01/2010
A man of mystery and few words...come on now, can we have more thoughts on that rather than just a no? This was thrown out for discussion, play along if you can.
03:33 PM on 01/01/2010
the greatest conspiracy is that the republicans have destroyed the middle class while sleeping with corporations to outsource jobs over seas. when you cry about giving 30 measly millions to our last big manufacturing base but give trillions to scam artist on wall street. where are the jobs? the truth they dont really want people working... desperate people do 2 things. join the military which is their real goal or kill for it which serves their purpose as well.
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guveqzero
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12:33 PM on 01/01/2010
Get real. These jobless numbers being talked about do not show the under employed and employment at reduced pay. If economists continue to use these numbers to predict the state of the economy, they will be having a false sense of reality. Decisions made accordingly will continue to be wrong. There will be no "V" recovery. The massive personal debt, the lower pay, the global market boondoggle and a new low moral has stagnated our economy.

Why haven't they modified this metric? It's a lagging indicator. Often the numbers are wrong and subsequently modified in following months using a faulty accounting method. They don't distinguish from jobs paying a living wage from those that don't pay a living wage.

Why are the numbers still reported? The people that actually work in the economy already know the jobs status.Then, the number is for people that don't work in the economy and need some way to peer into the misery without participating, like our government workers or rich investors.

How in the world saying the new jobless in the neighborhood of 400,000 is a good thing? The positive spin is that it's better than 600,000 . Oh yeah, reducing newly unemployed by 14,000 from 400,000 is a "sign" everything is getting better. At this rate, you have a better chance to die of old age than get a job along the way.
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World Citizen
06:40 AM on 01/01/2010
This number does not mean anything.

ftp://ftp.bls.gov/pub/suppl/empsit.cpseea1.txt

Above link shows that the percentage of employed americans has been steadily increasing since 1970 until it peaked in 2000 (67.1%).

What most people perhaps don't know is that the ratio of employed people compared to the total civilian population (16 years and over) has steadily decreased since its peak in 2000 (67.1% of total population were employed).

Since 2000, this employed percentage has steadily decreased. For example, in January 2009, the ratio was 65.5% (of total population of over 16 years were employed). This went down to 65.0% in November 2009.

Simple math shows that 35% of the employable civilian population are not employed.
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4TJefferson
Promote the General Welfare
06:44 PM on 01/01/2010
I agree. The number do not mean anything. Do you think all 16 to 22 year olds are looking for work or going to school? How about people over the age of 65? Useless.
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loki
Better to die fighting, than live on knees
04:26 AM on 01/01/2010
it could be that either a large number of people are losing benefits and no longer counted.
Or has anyone checked the suicide numbers lately?
10:46 PM on 12/31/2009
hat tip to http://iamned-site.blogspot.com/
06:27 PM on 12/31/2009
The numbers are garbage. Just stop paying those unemployment claims and the rate will really fall. That headline will point out things must be getting better.
Viper
Former repub, still repenting
08:48 PM on 12/31/2009
Then you dont know about the household employement survey which is a major component in the unemployment number... Its not based on unemployment claims in total, its based on the answers also to survey question in part just like any other scientific poll....

Those who are self employed, eventhose who own companies that pay wages, but file Schedule "C's are not elegiobel for unemployment benefits.

The questions are such as are you working? Hours you are employed? Are you looking for more work and are you not looking for work and etc.


Regards
10:02 PM on 12/31/2009
Thank you Viper. You have told us how this component number is arrived at. What does it say?
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Elyriaohio
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07:06 AM on 01/02/2010
I heard the same thing & it should be listed as a fact in EVERY article about employment numbers.

Thanks Viper
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kate99
09:09 PM on 12/31/2009
you will also have more people homeless and poor thats not a place I would like to live that does that to its people
10:05 PM on 12/31/2009
Indeed. Congress needs to get people back to work for it appears the private sector can't.
03:09 PM on 12/31/2009
The number of claims is still high and was mitigated by XMAS hiring. Look for what the numbers are in the coming weeks.

Obama and company give very little weight to real unemployment and foreclosures and the millions off the grid. Obama will count someone making minimum wage for 10 hours a week at Walmart as "employed".
Viper
Former repub, still repenting
03:24 PM on 12/31/2009
Obama will count? thats the way its always done. Under Bush they decided that 5% less of the population was in the workforce than under Clinton..

They also in the details report the under employed.

regards
06:18 PM on 12/31/2009
The Bushies also tried to classify McDonalds workers as manufacturing jobs, since the employees were "building" hamburgers.
03:03 PM on 12/31/2009
I think the Government and the Market have a thousand ways to cook the economic "figures" and use all of them. It's in their core vested interest to do so.
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Pod-gers
Jeremy Lin = Game Change
02:32 PM on 12/31/2009
Amazing. We permit the mis reporting of the actual unemployment of American workers, then we read and listen to reports about how illegal "immigrants" (an oximoron do not take jobs away from American citizens, they work on jobs Americans do not want.

The "progressives" and the conservitives both support legalizing illegals, redering to them as "undocumented" workers, and plan tp pass legislation to give illegals a "pate" to legal status, promising a secure economic future.

Affrican American youth, especially inner city, expierence ove a 40% unemployment rate, and the Obama administration does not have a plan, nor path for them, where their futures will lead to security and economic well beiuing. Their path still leads to jail.

I would like to see actuall unemployment figures, by rural, city, race, religion categories. never mind reporting fake unemployment rates.

Unemployed Americans are Americas biggest security threat.
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texastrixie
I invented the internet.
02:27 PM on 12/31/2009
Oh, and by the way, most people still aren't using their credit cards, and those big retail sales numbers are coming from the rich, not the guy on the street.
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biznesschic
02:31 PM on 12/31/2009
They got smarter, they saved for the holidays and are now using debit cards.
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texastrixie
I invented the internet.
02:26 PM on 12/31/2009
I hope this is a true indicator but I have my doubts because:

1) It is Christmas and no one likes to lay off workers at Christmas unless they absolutely have to (like last year);

2) Many city, state, and county govt workers are due for further layoffs/reduction-in-force or unpaid mandatory "holidays" next year because the stimulus money for local govts won't be around in 2010 (2010 is all about jobs, but more targeted to small business jobs), and housing prices (property taxes) continue to fall, plus sales tax receipts are still down even in the "boom" states;

3) The Congress is getting cold feet about funding unemployment/food stamps/Cobra assistance since the majority of those laid off never seem to find work (there will come a point when the federal government will not be able to get an okay from the Congress to cover these costs at a deficit) so those long-term unemployed may soon find themselves with NO available income except from friends and family.
02:26 PM on 12/31/2009
Unemployment is not "easing". My wife got the axe yesterday and she's in the medical field. 10 weeks severance and an adios after nine years. This President and Congress have made every wrong move you could possibly make coming in to a bad situation. Propping up failed banks, deficit spending, cap and trade, cash for clunkers, moronic health care plan etc. No wonder business is scared to death.
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PinkysBrain
As government grows, liberty shrinks
02:39 PM on 12/31/2009
My sympathies to you and your wife
02:53 PM on 12/31/2009
Thanks Pinky, we are luckier than most, we have saved. I feel bad for those who are really jammed up.
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biznesschic
02:44 PM on 12/31/2009
I was unemployed from Jan to Oct. of this year. This downward slid began when Reagan took office, not this President, who is suppose to reverse 30 years of Corporatism in 11 months. I do feel your pain, however, we need to be proactive and demand to abolish failed trade policies which will help us all.
03:07 PM on 12/31/2009
There have been a number of ups and downs since Reagan was President and I would remind you that Reagan had a democratic congress his entire Presidency.