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Malaysian Churches Attacked In 'Allah' Row

VIJAY JOSHI   01/ 8/10 02:45 PM ET   AP

Malaysia Allah Ban

KUALA LUMPUR, Malaysia — Religious tensions in Muslim-majority Malaysia turned violent Friday with firebomb attacks on three churches following a court decision that allows Christians to translate God as Allah.

"Allah is only for us," said a poster waved at one of at least two protests outside mosques in Kuala Lumpur on Friday, the Muslim holy day.

Many Muslims are angry about a Dec. 31 High Court decision overturning a government ban on Roman Catholics' using "Allah" for God in the Malay-language edition of their main newspaper, the Herald.

The ruling also applies to the ban's broader applications, such as Malay-language Bibles, 10,000 copies of which were recently seized by authorities because they translated God as Allah.

"We will not allow the word Allah to be inscribed in your churches," a speaker shouted over a loudspeaker at the Kampung Bahru mosque.

The Herald says its Malay edition is read mainly by Christian indigenous tribes in the remote states of Sabah and Sarawak.

But the government contends that making Allah synonymous with God may confuse Muslims and ultimately mislead to them into converting to Christianity, a punishable offense in Malaysia despite a constitution that guarantees freedom of religion.

It suggests using "Tuhan," but Christians say Tuhan is more like "Lord," and can't replace "Allah."

Leading Muslim scholars, activists and opposition politicians have supported the Christians' right to call God Allah, and Friday's protests were relatively small, with most of the congregation ignoring them.

Still, the unprecedented church attacks compounded the difficulties for a country that prides itself on having managed to maintain broad harmony among a mix of racial and religious gaps. About 9 percent of Malaysia's 28 million people are Christian, including 800,000 Catholics, most of whom are ethnic Chinese or Indian. Muslims are 60 percent.

Minorities have long complained of discrimination. The government refuses to allow construction of new churches and temples, court verdicts in religious disputes usually favor Muslims, and an array of laws guarantee preferential treatment for Malays, the dominant and largely Muslim ethnic group, in jobs, housing and education.

"The distrust has always been there but now the minorities in Malaysia feel that they are under siege," said James Chin, who teaches political science at the Monash University in Malaysia.

The Allah ban is unusual in the Muslim world. The Arabic word is commonly used by Christians to describe God in such countries as Egypt and Syria. The confiscated Bibles came from neighboring Indonesia, an overwhelmingly Muslim country.

Bassilius Nassour, a Greek Orthodox bishop in Damascus, called the Malaysian government's position "shameful."

"It shows Malaysia to be a backward, pagan state because God teaches freedom for everyone, and the word 'Allah' is for everyone," he said.

Some government critics suggest the Allah ban is designed to win back Muslim voters who deserted Prime Minister Najib Razak's United Malays National Organization party in the 2008 general election – a charge Najib denies. He condemned the church attacks and promised the government would "take whatever steps it can to prevent such acts."

Since the court ruling, hateful comments and threats against Christians have been posted widely on the Internet, but the attacks in suburban Kuala Lumpur, the capital, mark the first time that the Allah controversy has resulted in vandalism.

In the worst incident, the ground-floor office of the three-story Metro Tabernacle Church was gutted by a firebomb thrown by attackers on motorcycles, police said. The upstairs prayer halls were undamaged.

Two other churches were attacked hours later, one suffering minor damage while the other was undamaged.

At least one other church canceled its Friday Mass and locked its doors, fearing an attack.

"We never know what might happen because the situation is so tense," said the Rev. Father Paulino Miranda of the Church of Divine Mercy in Shah Alam, the capital of Selangor state.

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Associated Press writers Eileen Ng, Julia Zappei and Sean Yoong contributed to this report.

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StealGeorgia
01:19 PM on 02/27/2010
Islam means 'peace'. (har de har)

If anything else, that should teach them the Muslims are right, that their 'Allah' is not the same god as the Christian god 'FatherSonNHolySpirit' who doesn't encourage violence against others (anymore).
01:13 AM on 02/12/2010
Ahh. the new age of reason in Malaysia. Little known facts include prevention of non-muslims from receiving scholarships, preferences for muslims from anywhere for migration, subsidized home purchase for muslims, ad infintitum. The end result a mass migration of non-muslims from the country, especially chinese malay. One other little known fact many chinese families have been in malaysia longer than the bumi putra, who are immigrants themselves. They displaced the true indigenous people.
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11:33 PM on 01/10/2010
Wherever the state takes the side of one religion over another, there will be strife. That having been said, the only nations that have ever had true religious liberty are the nations that were strongly influenced by Protestant Christianity, and the United States, with its First Amendment, guaranteeing all religions the right to influence public policy on social, moral, political, and economic issues, but denying any religion the power to use coercion to make converts or to impose its religious rites as state policy, has been the best example of true religious freedom on this earth.
10:32 AM on 01/09/2010
Muslims are the only people who have stood up to the onslight of Christianity all through history.

Hindus , Buddists, Sikhhs and Jains need to learn from Muslims how to f!ght back Christian evangalicals.
10:58 AM on 01/09/2010
Baloney.

"The most immediate cause for the Crusades is also the most obvious: Muslim incursions into previously Christian lands. On multiple fronts, Muslims were invading Christian lands to convert the inhabitants and assume control in the name of Islam.

A "Crusade" had been underway on the Iberian peninsula since 711 when Muslim invaders conquered most of the region. Better known as the Reconquista, it lasted until the tiny kingdom of Grenada was reconquered in 1492. In the East, Muslim attacks on land controlled by the Byzantine Empire had been going on for a long time...

http://atheism.about.com/od/crusades/a/crusades_3.htm
10:09 PM on 01/09/2010
Since Christians always felt the crusade was justified to maintain their religion, I advice Hindus and Buddist to resort to acrudade like position against evangalical hordes in Asia.

IF its good enough for Christains to preserve their religion and culture, ITs good enough for Hindus and Buddhists.
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LMPE
I connect the most dissimilar things
02:11 AM on 01/09/2010
Let's just put all religious fundamentalists in a ring together and have them beat the stuffings out of each other until they all kill each other. It would be the biggest entertainment spectacle in history!
11:32 PM on 01/08/2010
It seems that just about anything is justified in the name of islam.
11:28 PM on 01/08/2010
The Religion of Peaceâ„¢

2010.01.08 (Khyber, Pakistan) - Three children are among five civilians murdered by a Shahid suicide bomber outside a mosque.
2010.01.08 (Bajaur, Pakistan) - Two people are blown to bits by a Taliban roadside bomb.
2010.01.08 (Karachi, Pakistan) - Five mourners at a funeral are shot to death by sectarian Jihadis.
2010.01.07 (Khanaqin, Iraq) - Three Iraqis are cut down by a Jihadi bomb.
2010.01.07 (Yala, Thailand) - A man is ripped in two by a Religion of Peace nail bomb.
2010.01.07 (Hit, Iraq) - Women and children are among the dead when Mujahideen detonate planted bombs around the bedrooms of four homes.
2010.01.07 (Nangarhar, Afghanistan) - Four children are among nine Afghans murdered by Islamic bombers in two attacks.
2010.01.07 (Nag Hamadi, Egypt) - Six worshippers and one guard are gunned down by Muslim radicals as they leave mass at a Christian church. A 14-year-old is among the dead.

That's over the PAST TWO DAYS.
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Le Panda
05:13 AM on 01/09/2010
Yeah but most of the victims are muslims too.
Gasparilla
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04:17 PM on 01/09/2010
Not that they wouldn't have been glad to kill westerners. It certainly was not for a lack of trying.
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StealGeorgia
01:24 PM on 02/27/2010
Oh.
Well that's different.
10:25 PM on 01/08/2010
Anyone who fks up the christian evangalicals is my friend!
11:01 PM on 01/08/2010
Do you agree with the Fort Hood shooter who said that the US war in Afgh. is a war on Muslims, and thus so immoral as to justify the killing of US military by US Muslims?
11:49 PM on 01/08/2010
No. He kiIIed non evangalicals. So that was m urder!
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Le Panda
12:01 AM on 01/09/2010
That's just wrong. Can't harm anybody.
12:03 AM on 01/09/2010
Tell that to the evangalicals who conspire to ethnically cIeanse Asia
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Le Panda
06:08 PM on 01/08/2010
Most people here don't really understand about Malaysia. Most Malaysians know this has nothing to do with religion. It's all about politics. This is how the ruling government tighten its' grip on people. They promote fear. To be calling the Malaysia government devout muslims is like calling the GOP devout christians. Nothing they do is in line with the teachings of any religions. Believe me I spent many years in this country. Those people who burned down the churches probably are paid agents of the government. There's nothing Islamic about the malaysian government.
Gasparilla
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06:22 PM on 01/08/2010
It has everything to do with religion. As the article points out you can be punished for converting to christianity. In many muslim countries that will get you killed. You're kidding yourself if you think it has nothing to do with religion. If so, then the muslim majority needs to separate itself from such policies.
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Le Panda
06:46 PM on 01/08/2010
I'm telling you it has nothing to do with religion. Someone whose really educated in Islam would know that Allah is just an arabic word for God and would not resort to these kind of things just because of this. Do you think muslims don't know that they share the same God as the Jews and Christians?
I've yet to see anybody being killed for converting to christianity in malaysia. I'm not kidding myself. I've lived there for half my life. I know people there. They want to live as peacefully as anybody else. If you have been here and live here than you'd know how the government operates over here.
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Le Panda
06:49 PM on 01/08/2010
Malaysia government is no more islamic than the US government is christian. Name me one religion that allows bribery and swindling taxpayers' money?
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KIVPossum
Moldova Marsupial
04:54 PM on 01/08/2010
Lot of folks here were upset about Switzerland's ban on minarets. Want to get their take on this. At least the Swiss aren't burning mosques.
05:07 PM on 01/08/2010
Just shows the double standard. Muslim countries can restrict and even ban the practice of other religions, but secular nations cannot limit in any way the rights of Muslims. Don't draw cartoons or we'll burn buildings. Don't write novels blasphemous of our religion or we'll issue a death threat and make you go into hiding. You can't use our word for God. Do'nt make films about how we treat women. The tendency toward censorship is as pervasive as it is disgusting, at least for this advocate of free speech.
overcat
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07:18 AM on 01/09/2010
"Just shows the double standard."

You could also consider that it shows a positive difference. Regardless of some predominantly Muslim countries limiting religious rights, secular nations don't - why should we? What would be the point, some tit for tat race to the bottom? Agreed that ALL of the things you cite are egregious, and the efforts of some extremists to export and impose the worst of their own ideology to the secular world deserves no accommodation whatsoever. There's little doubt that there is, on the part of Islamic extremists, a demonstrated eagerness to feel offended and a hair trigger willingness to become violent and destructive over it.

One persons double standard is another persons positive difference.
Gasparilla
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04:41 PM on 01/08/2010
"converting to christianity, a punishable offense in Malaysia". Let the excuse making begin.
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ForeverXL
Religion poisons everything.
04:26 PM on 01/08/2010
The Rel|gion of Peace in full motion.
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Hnorc
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04:17 PM on 01/08/2010
As long as they do not try to use the name of my God, Johnny Walker.
08:28 PM on 01/08/2010
JD any day...
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HowietheScreamer
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03:46 PM on 01/08/2010
Just shows the Malay can't even read their own Korans. The Koran says that Allah is the same god as the God of the Jews and Christians. Jesus is a major respected prophet in Islam.

It's like 3 brothers all fighting over who gets to sit at the head of the table... "Father" would not be pleased.
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KIVPossum
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04:55 PM on 01/08/2010
They don't read the Koran any more than most Christians read the bible. People let their leaders tell them what their holy works say.
08:29 PM on 01/08/2010
...or what to think.
Gasparilla
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05:04 PM on 01/08/2010
You can read anything you want in the koran, as the bible. And there are passages that tell Muslims to kill the nonbelievers and many take that to be non Muslims.
03:16 PM on 01/08/2010
Indonesia is seen as the most secular of the world's Muslim nations. Wahhabism and hatred of the West isn't big there.

And yet still there is this gravitation toward censorship of others among the Muslim population (just as with the US Muslim protest against showing the Danish cartoons as "hate speech" at a university in CA.)

Why is that?
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ForeverXL
Religion poisons everything.
04:29 PM on 01/08/2010
Nonsense. Don't su.ck stuff out of your thumb.
For starters: Turkey is the most secular nation with a population of which the very majority is Musl|m.
Secondly: |ndonesian musl|ms were at the forefront of burning flags when the c@rtoons happened and when f|tna (by W|lders) was released.

Oh, and remember the Bal| bombings?

Comeeeeee onnnn
04:49 PM on 01/08/2010
OK, first, what the "most" secular Muslim nation is, be it Turkey or Indonesia, or Malaysia, is COMPLETELY beside the point, so put that on your thumb and suck it.

Second, your statement that " |ndonesian musl|ms were at the forefront of burning flags when the c@rtoons happened" simply proves my point about a Muslim gravitation toward censorship of others!

I wish you'd "come on" and post something that makes some kind of SENSE!
Gasparilla
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05:06 PM on 01/08/2010
This is Malaysia not Indonesia, although you are correct that Indonesia is not among the more rigid societies.
05:23 PM on 01/08/2010
Yeah, I messed that up, but I think the point is still the same- Malaysia is not a Wahhabi hotbed, either, yet this nasty civil strife based on a claim of exclusivity for the use of a WORD I think demonstrates the mainstream Muslim tendency toward an authoritarian censorship. And it's simply repulsive in it's intolerance for free speech, as shown by the US Muslim demonstration against showing and discussing the cartoons at a university as being "hate speech."

Voltaire is reported to have taken the position that although he might disagree with something someone said, he would fight to the death for that person's right to say it. Islam seems to me to be anti-Voltaire, fighting to the death AGAINST anyone else's right to say anything with which it disagrees.