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DADT Repeal: Dems Move Forward With Plans

First Posted: 03/18/10 06:12 AM ET Updated: 05/25/11 04:10 PM ET

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Congressional negotiators and White House officials are moving forward with plans to add the repeal of Don't Ask Don't Tell to the upcoming defense authorization bill, Democratic sources tell the Huffington Post.

In Congress, members are being whipped to ensure that the votes will be there for passage, should the legislation be placed in the bill. At this juncture, aides say, the prospects look good. Meanwhile, a source close to the White House says the president has instructed the Defense Department that he believes the repeal of DADT should be placed in the authorization bill.

However, disagreements could emerge when it comes to crafting the actual legislative language, over which Defense Secretary Robert Gates will wield his influence. And at this juncture, few of the offices working on the issue said they were willing to take passage as a fait accompli.

"People have said publicly and privately that this is a good place for repeal to be placed," said one Democratic aide on the Hill. "It would be reasonable to expect that repeal might be in this year's defense authorization... But we aren't assuming anything yet."

If repeal of DADT is added to the defense authorization bill, critics of the program will view it as a long-overdue move. The initial law, in which members of the military weren't asked about their sexuality nor allowed to serve openly, was passed as part of the defense authorization for FY1994. Since then, a delicate balance -- which no particular side of the debate appreciated -- has been the law of the land. As a result, thousands of military personnel have hidden their sexuality from their superiors and even more have been dismissed for making their sexuality public.

During the 2008 campaign, then Senator Obama made repeal of the law a major component of his platform on LBGT issues. A massive financial crisis and already front-loaded legislative schedule pushed DADT repeal to the back burner, although the administration promised that action would eventually be taken.

Frustration mounted. And on Tuesday, the Servicemember Legal Defense Network -- a group dedicated to repealing DADT -- releasede an open letter to Obama (in the form of an advertisement in the newspaper Roll Call) urging repeal to be placed in the defense budget:

"[I]f you do not include repeal in your defense budget, it will be tough to win repeal this year. You have yet to say to Congress, Let's finally end this embarrassing and archaic law and here's how we do it.


The time is now. Not next year or the second term. To delay another year is to stand aside and okay the daily firing of service members merely because they are gay. Patriotic gays and lesbians are fighting and dying for our country in two wars, just like their straight comrades-in-arms."

In an interview with the Huffington Post, SLDN's Executive Director, Aubrey Sarvis, pledged that the ad was just the first salvo in a longer, broader, campaign to push the administration's hand. "A number of other organizations feel the same way and I will anticipate that you will be seeing more of a united and direct message," he said.

As for the push to place repeal of DADT into the defense authorization bill, Aubrey and others are open about their legislative strategizing. "Defense authorization is one of the few must-pass bills in each session and each Congress," he said. "This is a bill that we know is going to pass to provide for our nation's defense."

Acknowledged the Democratic Hill staffer: "It makes it a lot harder for others to oppose." House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Cali.) along with Rep. Barney Frank (D-Mass) -- who is openly gay -- have also expressed support for putting repeal of DADT in the defense budget.

Currently, there is no precise calendar to consider the defense authorization bill. But the administration is expected to put forward its recommendations in February with the House of Representatives considering the bill in late April or May. If the White House does not include repeal as part of its recommendations that does not preclude the lawmakers from introducing it in committee or at other stages in the process, the Hill aide said.


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Congressional negotiators and White House officials are moving forward with plans to add the repeal of Don't Ask Don't Tell to the upcoming defense authorization bill, Democratic sources tell the Huff...
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09:14 PM on 01/14/2010
Countries allowing gay military service:
Argentina, Australia, Austria, Belgium, Bermuda, Brazil, Canada, Czech Republic, Denmark, Estonia, Finland, France, Germany, Ireland, Israel, Italy, Lithuania, Luxembourg, The Netherlands, New Zealand, Norway, Peru, Philippines, Romania, Slovenia, South Africa, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland, United Kingdom (Britain), Uruguay

Note that some of our closest allies allow gays to serve. Perhaps if we're going to ban homosexuals from serving in the military because they(we) would hurt morale and effectiveness then perhaps it's time to re-examine our alliances. I mean, heck, if we need our allies during a war or something the fact that they might be gay may hurt the morale and effectiveness of the alliance. Having worked with NATO, I'm very aware of how closely our troops and many others mingle. Oh my! Imagine what might happen!!

So many in this country go on and on about the freedom, the liberty, the opporutnity, the promise of this country and yet we're not even on the list. I mean honestly. Israel, a country who's very life is literally and daily dependent upon their military allow gays to serve for crying out loud.

Ah, America. More and more the land of the fearful.
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Art Jaquez
"The wise speak only of what they know.”
03:46 AM on 01/14/2010
So far, this administration has been a complete failure at freeing us from Wall Street criminals, moving us away from never ending war and related war crimes, restoring the rule of law, defending women's reproductive rights and ending the discrimination against gays. If Obama fails to lead, yet again, it is hard to imagine he will have any hope of second term.
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Tyler VanderMeer
01:59 AM on 01/14/2010
Even Israel allows gays in their military. Imagine Israel kicking out Arabic translators for their sexuality.

I think Obama should do this to make the Tea Baggers really pissed off and have their head explode, so that there will be no more tea baggers.
06:20 PM on 01/13/2010
The Don't ask don't tell rule should be anulled it is not a very professional statement
03:14 PM on 01/13/2010
DADT was enacted with an executive order (which I think is unconstitutional, but besides the point). Obama can simply use an Executive Order to rescind it. It's ridiculous that it can be enacted without legislation, but must be repealed with it.
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mombabytiger
Looking into the heart of an artichoke.
05:37 PM on 01/13/2010
Agreed. This should have been done long ago.
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Rooster Coburn
Less Gov't + More Responsibility = A Better World
01:56 PM on 01/13/2010
Don't ask! Don't tell! Carry concealed! http://keepandbeararms.com/
10:19 AM on 01/13/2010
What part of "separation of church and state" is salty unclear about?
10:18 AM on 01/13/2010
Laws are made to enforce equality, and to keep mindless prejudice in check.
10:17 AM on 01/13/2010
Laws are made for salty religious bigots.
02:50 AM on 01/13/2010
I hope this works. It's going to be a tough battle. I'm cautiously optimistic, as I always am.
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bluntobject
Gandhi didn't like your attitude either!
01:17 AM on 01/13/2010
Oh really??? How interesting that Obie suddenly decides he is for this. I will personally believe it when I see it. So far, the White House has been all talk and no action on this.
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EmmaJ76
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06:25 AM on 01/13/2010
Suddenly? This has been on the agenda since day one, the only trouble you seem to have is that he didn;t get everything done on that day - I think he has had bigger fish to fry. But hey, at least he is doing something about it.
06:48 AM on 01/13/2010
All he needed to do to stop it is sign a stop action with a sign of the pen. He is doing this like he does everything, because he is losing his base and is trying to stop the hemorraging of his re-election chances.
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esalter
01:02 PM on 01/13/2010
I for one will not vote for any democrat who is against this. It's bad enough we can't marry but now you can't proudly and openly serve your country. The presdianet bett make this a priority. Why would gayys vote foer the democrats if they don't make work for us. We alredy have the republicans who do nothing for us, why do we need the democrats if they respond the same. It's time to flex some political muscle and tell Barack Oboma taht if DADT stands start looking for a new day job. He was not elected to pass backward looking helath care reform.
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Helzapoppin
Don't Piss Down My Back And Tell Me It's Raining.
12:48 AM on 01/13/2010
OMG!! The White House and Congress might actually do something right!! Seriously, this is the sort of organized action I've been expecting (and not seeing) for the last year. If they pass this with the Defense Authorization bill, Dems will most certainly have earned my congratulations. Good news.
12:46 AM on 01/13/2010
The ONLY reason we lose any gays from military service is because THEY make their sexuality an issue. The military does NOT go out and look in bedrooms, bathrooms,.etc.. So it is THEIR choice that they get out. It iswasteful and of great benefit to the gays who do leave. They get great training, and they don't have to serve once they finish schooling.

It is even less understandable since they knew the policy to begin with. In short, the gay military personnel are simply using the military rules against them to the gays advantage. If they don't want a second tour in Iraq, say that you are gay, and you are gone.
12:59 AM on 01/13/2010
agreed
01:36 AM on 01/13/2010
Just having a partner, or being suspected is enough to get you kicked out. So if they get seen on a date, they can be blackmailed and outsted.

How does it serve anyone to have this rule? If the abuse is what you describe, wouldn't it be easier to just get rid of DADT?
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GiveUsFree
Teapublicans are destroying America.
12:37 AM on 01/13/2010
No matter what this President does, it's never good enough or too late for some people. Never mind that he was left a huge historical platter of mess to clean up. We are facing major problems as a country where just one of them could consume an entire Presidential term. No wonder Republicans eat our lunch, because we are too busy eating our own and b1tching and moaning all the time.

If this is what it means to be a progressive, then I no longer want any part of it. President Obama, under the circumstances, had an extremely successful first year. I am a realist. I didn't even think he could get HCR out of the Senate. He's spent a considerable amount of political capital to get this done for the American people. It might even cost him his Presidency, because we are too dumb to understand the nature of governing in this country with two corrupt congressional bodies.
06:28 AM on 01/13/2010
I think many people feel this way, but are overwhelmed by the sheer negativity of people they would normally agree with. The progressives I talk to in real life do not resemble those of the progressive blogosphere.
12:34 AM on 01/13/2010
Obama making another promise. He'll
find a way to ditch this one, too.
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Mum
04:14 AM on 01/13/2010
Go to Politifact and you'll learn that for having been in office for not quite a year, working with a obstructionist Congress, and dealing with a corporate media which couldn't find its way to honest reporting with GPS and cares more about informing the American public about Tiger Woods and Octomom, President Obama is actually doing quite well. And a review of his Executive Orders and policy changes within the various agencies would yield up even more good news. Of course, my guess is, judging from the serious level of discourse evidenced by your comment, you'll hardly make the effort.

So here's the link to Politifact:
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/browse/

And here's a link to the Congressional Quarterly study that shows that Obama has actually accomplished more than any other president in 50 years with regard to getting things through Congress. Hard to believe, given the obstructionist Republicans. But here it is:

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=122436116
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EmmaJ76
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06:23 AM on 01/13/2010
Prove it Jody. What a silly statement to make. PBO as a sentaor has a great record for helping support gay rights - the only people in the wrong is those who thought he could do everything on day one.