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House To Rebuke Obama On First Veto

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First Posted: 03/18/10 06:12 AM ET Updated: 05/25/11 04:10 PM ET

Bipartisanship is alive on Capitol Hill -- House Democrats and Republicans came together Tuesday morning to join forces against a common, longstanding enemy: the executive branch and the "pocket veto".

On December 16, Congress passed a war-spending bill to fund the Department of Defense just as money was about to run out for the agency. So that President Obama would have time to read the full bill before signing it, Congress also passed a "continuing resolution" (CR), funding the DoD for an extra week.

Obama decided not to take that time and quickly signed the DoD bill, making the CR redundant. But instead of vetoing it, he sent it back to Congress on December 30, without his signature, asserting his "pocket veto" powers.

Congress hates pocket vetoes, considering them an affront to its constitutional authority. Before adjourning, the House specifically designated a clerk to be available to receive messages from the White House. Since someone was home, the House insists, there can be no pocket veto.

Even more to the point, Obama sent the bill -- parchment and all -- back to the House. The bill, the House now argues, can't be in his pocket because the chamber has it right here.

To make their objection to the president's pocket veto clear, both parties intend to take up the veto on Tuesday afternoon and vote to sustain it. A vote sustaining the veto is the House's way of asserting that it was not a pocket veto.

Rep. David Obey (D-Wisc.), chairman of the Appropriations Committee, spoke out against the veto on the House floor Tuesday morning. "[I]n that veto message, [the president] suggested in some ways that he was -- he had in fact pocket vetoed the legislation. But the fact is clear that the Congress was here to receive a message, and we do not consider it a pocket veto, and, therefore, we feel that the appropriate action to be taken is to sustain the veto and take this action to demonstrate that in our judgment a pocket veto is not appropriate, that the president exercised irregular veto and it should be treated as such," said Obey.

In a rare moment of agreement, Rep. Bill Young (R-Fla.) backed his Democratic rival. "I wanted to rise in support of the position taken by my friend, Mr. Obey," said Young, perhaps for the first time ever. "I find it a little ironic that here we are having to defend the constitutional prerogatives of the Congress in a joint resolution that was originally sent to the president to respect his constitutional prerogatives."

According to the Congressional Research Service, 37 of 44 presidents have used the veto a total of 2,563 times. Of those, 1,066 were pocket vetoes. President James Madison was responsible for the first pocket veto. President Bush went his full first term without a veto.

The pocket veto was waning before Obama made use of it, a trend Congress would like to see continue. President Clinton only used the authority once; Bush never used it. used it once. [Correction: Bush used the device in December 2007. CRS lists Bush as never having used the pocket veto because it doesn't consider what Bush did -- or what Obama did, for that matter -- to be constitutionally valid pocket vetoes, since the House did have someone available to receive the message. From the congressional perspective, a pocket veto can only be exercised at the end of a two-year session of Congress, but not in the middle of one.]

Read Obama's veto message:

The enactment of H.R. 3326 (Department of Defense Appropriations Act, 2010, Public Law 111-118), which was signed into law on December 19, 2009, has rendered the enactment of
H.J.Res. 64 (Continuing Appropriations, FY 2010) unnecessary. Accordingly, I am withholding my approval from the bill. (The Pocket Veto Case, 279 U.S. 655 (1929)).

To leave no doubt that the bill is being vetoed as unnecessary legislation, in addition to withholding my signature, I am also returning H.J.Res. 64 to the Clerk of the House of Representatives, along with this Memorandum of Disapproval.

BARACK OBAMA
THE WHITE HOUSE,
December 30, 2009.


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08:56 AM on 01/15/2010
This is much ado about nothing....

The sole purpose of the CR bill was to provide funding for extra one week, so that the President would have more time to read the main DoD bill.

The President went ahead and read, then signed the DoD bill into law making the CR bill irrelevant. The Guy have the money he needs, while give him the extra money?

I am surprise that the GOP who always make noise about excess spending are supporting this. This does not look good on them, it show again and again that, they have no principal and their major objective is to oppose the President at all cost.

Congress, check your pride and move-on. The President does not need the extra money, and decide to return it to the public's pulse, please accept the money on behalf of the Tax payers and move-on.
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KIVPossum
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02:29 AM on 01/15/2010
I must be missing something here; seems to be a case of much ado about nothing. Looks like they were giving him money to tide him over so he could read a bill before signing it, but since he's a fast reader he read and signed it, making the short term funding bill superfluous, so he sent it back to them.

If that's correct, what's the issue? That he didn't take money he didn't need or want, and only accepted the money he asked for and needed? Can we get some adults in congress?
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rockyrococoAZ
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02:19 AM on 01/15/2010
BFD!
03:55 PM on 01/14/2010
This is just stupid. He already had the funding so he didn't need the week of funding that was passed earlier. His options at that point were to accept the money when it no longer made sense, commit political suicide and veto war spending, or do what he did and block the funding by inaction. I hate pocket vetoes, but in this instance it is the only way you would see a president do the correct thing fiscally because actually vetoing it would be so politically detrimental.
12:21 PM on 01/14/2010
he was busy going through the budget line-by-line
04:32 PM on 01/14/2010
Obviously, you either didn't read or understand the article. He sent the resolution back because he did not need the full week the read the entire bill.
12:17 PM on 01/14/2010
Barack Bush!
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realpolitic
GOP is full of sound and fury, signifying nothing!
10:40 AM on 01/14/2010
The incident reflect the independence the Congress has from the White House even when both are Democratically controlled. It is so different when Republicans have both both branches then the Congress just bows over and acts as sycophants.
12:22 PM on 01/14/2010
yes. we've seen this independence on health care takeover, pork laden omnibus spending bill and 'stimulus' bill. I particularly enjoyed how the white house and congress fought each other on cap n tax.... LOL
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realpolitic
GOP is full of sound and fury, signifying nothing!
12:46 PM on 01/14/2010
LOL HaHahahaha! What juvenile nonsense!
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Qunamngdogs
10:14 AM on 01/14/2010
Has anyone noticed that Obama smirks the same way Junior Bush does? I can't watch him, either now.
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Amalek
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08:46 AM on 01/14/2010
I am now convinced we need to throw out all the bums. Democrat, republican and especially that independent from Connecticut.
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realpolitic
GOP is full of sound and fury, signifying nothing!
03:58 PM on 01/14/2010
You mean the Independent who always seem to lean right?
08:36 AM on 01/14/2010
We have jobs crisis, banking issues, wars to deal with, Haiti and thes A --holes can think of than a personal affront to their authority ...

Wait maybe if Obama sends them all $5.00 in gift cards, they'll look the other way ??
07:41 AM on 01/14/2010
Obama is Bush 2
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Fred Hood
Out of many we are one ...B.O.
08:22 AM on 01/14/2010
we are so stupid........we have a man that wants and tries to do what is best for us the people........and the people are his worst road block to accomplishing his wish........
09:06 AM on 01/14/2010
I wish I had your outlook, but I pay attention to what is going on.

We haven't had a President or a majority in Congress who wanted to do what's best for the People since well before I was born.

The worst part is, I'm not even sure that they believe what they are doing is malicious, that they actually think by making sweetheart deals with Big Pharm and Big Oil they are somehow helping us.
09:35 AM on 01/14/2010
Amen to that! If nothing else, this article illustrates that the voting public gets overly focused on the executive branch when it comes to legislation e.g. health care. The congress is the primary proxy of the people; but we spend far too much time complaining about Obama, when he is in fact, just the "CEO", not the governing board. Secondly, GW Bush did not have to use any type of veto because he had a "roll over" congress! When he purposely and willfully broke the FISA Act, the congress rolled over on cue, and retrofitted his actions by equivocation, and modification of the law.

Where were all that "teabagging" (from the right) and "Obama hasn't changed things fast enough" (from the left) protestant energy then? Ther was little to be found; for the people has allowed its own disparate self interests, ignorance of the mechanisms of self governance, and illusions to be the "dictator" in a "free" society!
12:23 PM on 01/14/2010
LMAO.. except communist
09:00 AM on 01/15/2010
Wow, how stupid can one person be? Communist? You must be r.e.t.a.r.d.e.d.
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Skygazer
The GOTP makes a mockery of the word freedom.
01:50 AM on 01/14/2010
Sounds like he didn't need the extra week and wanted the House to get back to work instead of waiting around for him to "read it" so they could extend their holiday vacations. This is the equivalent of a boss saying to his people, look don't play these games right now, we don't need to waste and extra week and extra money (to fund the DoD over that week), to get this done.

The Righties on here who don't recognize that are complete tools and hypocrites who wouldn't know fiscal responsibility if it bit them on the a@@ and don't give a damm about that, they just want a reason to have their lies confirmed.

I say bravo, he's asserting his position as the executive and being productive. It too bad the poor little House critters had their wittle feewings hurt by the President. I take this as a good sign. Obama gave COngress a full year to show that it can legislate and be effective and respect the country, and they gamed everything they could....

I hope this continues, and I have a feeling the fires he lights under their butts are going to get hotter and hotter.
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EmiliaRomagna
06:11 AM on 01/14/2010
Fanned. Brilliant display of how 2 of the 3 government branches interact. As well, Obama would know exactly what his prerogatives are in his reply, being a Constitutional lawyer, after all. Besides, Congress showed us all, and glaringly, exactly how dysfunctional it was throughout the year; and in this instance, it shows it even moreso.

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12:05 AM on 01/14/2010
The only time progressives like government is when they get everything ..for free.. The only time conservatives love government is when it oppresses minorities...
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01:23 AM on 01/14/2010
We're willing to actually pay more for what we need. :)
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01:24 AM on 01/14/2010
But otherwise dead on!
11:39 PM on 01/13/2010
Wow, members of the House of Representatives continue to show how ridiculous their protocols are. And I would have thought that they had already embarrassed themselves enough when the President gave a health care speech in their chamber last year. Guess not.
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11:24 PM on 01/13/2010
This is not news at all just a waste of huffpost space.
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EmiliaRomagna
06:25 AM on 01/14/2010
Slow news day.
12:24 PM on 01/14/2010
huffpost space is a waste of space