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China Slams Clinton's Internet Speech: 'Information Imperialism'

CHRISTOPHER BODEEN   01/22/10 01:28 PM ET   AP

Hillary Clinton Internet Speech

BEIJING — Beijing issued a stinging response Friday to Hillary Rodham Clinton's criticism that it is jamming the free flow of words and ideas on the Internet, accusing the United States of damaging relations between the two countries by imposing its "information imperialism" on China.

Foreign Ministry spokesman Ma Zhaoxu defended China's policies regarding the Web, saying the nation's Internet regulations were in line with Chinese law and did not hamper the cyber activities of the world's largest online population. His remarks follow those made by the U.S. secretary of state, who in a speech Thursday criticized countries engaging in cyberspace censorship, and urged China to investigate computer attacks against Google.

"Regarding comments that contradict facts and harm China-U.S. relations, we are firmly opposed," Ma said in a statement posted Friday on the ministry's Web site. "We urge the U.S. side to respect facts and stop using the so-called freedom of the Internet to make unjustified accusations against China."

In her speech in Washington, Clinton cited China as among a number of countries where there has been "a spike in threats to the free flow of information" over the past year. She also named Tunisia, Uzbekistan, Egypt, Iran, Saudi Arabia and Vietnam.

A state-run newspaper labeled the appeal from Washington as "information imperialism," and Ma insisted that China had "the most active development of the Internet" of any country.

Washington, meanwhile, carried its message on Internet freedom directly to Chinese bloggers. The U.S. Embassy in Beijing and consulates in Shanghai and Guangzhou hosted Internet-streamed discussions with members of the blogging community on Friday afternoon – the latest example of Washington's outreach to Chinese bloggers as a way of spreading its message.

The bloggers met with U.S. diplomats from the political, economic and public affairs sections, who held discussions and answered questions about Clinton's speech. The meetings were similar to a session organized during Obama's visit to China in November.

Zhou Shuguang, who blogs under the name "Zuola," attended the session in Guangzhou and said Clinton's speech resonated deeply with Chinese bloggers frustrated by the content controls.

"We welcome the U.S. bringing this topic to the table for discussion in a diplomatic way," Zhou said.

Internet control is considered a critical matter of state security in China, and Beijing is not expected to offer any concessions. Beijing promotes Internet use for commerce, but heavily censors content it deems pornographic, anti-social or politically subversive and blocks many foreign news and social media sites, including Twitter and Facebook and the popular video site YouTube.

Underscoring such sensitivities, Chinese media published only scant reports on Clinton's speech and Web sites carrying the Foreign Ministry response had disabled their comments pages.

"For many senior leaders in the party, they're going to see this as just a further example of Western misunderstanding of China, Western domination of the agenda, and they're going to be more encouraged to push or defend China's own press policies," said David Bandurski, a Chinese media scholar at the University of Hong Kong.

Bandurski said that could give added impetus to multibillion-dollar plans to raise Chinese state media's overseas profile. China has been setting up new bureaus for state newspapers and funding the official Xinhua News Agency's move into television while establishing new foreign language channels for broadcaster China Central Television.

Phil Deans, a China expert at Temple University's Japan campus in Tokyo, said Beijing will likely view Clinton's comments as further confirmation that the current administration is no more amenable to its world view than the preceding one.

"After a year of sort of getting to know you and seeing how things are, the two sides realize they have a very, very different view of how the world does work and how the world should work," Deans said.

Clinton's speech came on the heels of a Jan. 12 threat from Google to pull out of China unless the government relented on censorship. The ultimatum came after Google said it had uncovered a computer attack that tried to plunder its software coding and the e-mail accounts of human rights activists protesting Chinese policies.

Eric Schmidt, Google's chief executive, said Thursday that the company hoped to find a way to maintain a presence in China but intended to stop censoring search results within "a reasonably short time."

Responses to the Google issue have ranged widely among Chinese Internet users, with some placing flowers at its Beijing headquarters and others penning screeds bidding good riddance.

U.S. State Department officials have said they intend to lodge a formal complaint with Chinese officials soon over the Google matter. Clinton not only urged China to investigate the cyber intrusions but openly publish its findings.

Clinton's speech was also denounced by an official newspaper Friday as part of a U.S. campaign to impose its values and denigrate other cultures while exploiting their societies' vulnerabilities.

"China's real stake in the 'free flow of information' is evident in its refusal to be victimized by information imperialism," said the English-language Global Times newspaper.

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Jeremy Lin = Game Change
03:17 AM on 01/29/2010
This week the USSC decided that Corporations have the right to free speech to influence politics in America. But the Obama administration is not happy about that. I guess they only want free speech for the Google Corporation in China?

I smell the stench of a double standard.
11:56 AM on 01/28/2010
The US government reads every email on the Internet. How can Hillary talk about privacy from governments?
03:20 PM on 01/25/2010
I've been trying to figure out what "information imperialism" was all day -- the attempt to conquer the world by informing people? But then I found out China was exploiting a US government mandated backdoor in Google mail accounts. http://edition.cnn.com/2010/OPINION/01/23/schneier.google.hacking/index.html?hpt=C2 So maybe this is the imperialism of a government that just happens to have Google & Microsoft? I'm sad I've ever put these two in the same sentence, but after I found out about the back door, I've given up on the "no evil".
12:08 AM on 01/25/2010
Good! ... the Chinese are telling the US to show evidence of your claims or shut up. Its about time for the US to stop all of this continuous China Bashing. China is going to be a world superpower despite any efforts by the US to subvert China's rise.
10:16 PM on 01/23/2010
The Chinese people probably feel just as helpless about this as we do about our Supreme Court United Citizens decision. Are there any hackers out there willing to help the Chinese people get access to forbidden information? What if Google just secretly started uncensoring the web?
Knowledge is power, and that's why it's so scary to these Chinese leaders.
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02:11 PM on 01/23/2010
China's imperial rulers engage in the rankest hypocrisy by accusing others of "imperialism" ..when what they are defending is the "right" to lie to the people of China, free of any confrontation with the truth. Neither Google, nor any other entity whose stock-in-trade is information, should ever have conceded to Chinese officials' "right" to censor information provided under their auspices... by doing so, they merely became complicit in the crimes of tyrants.
09:20 PM on 01/23/2010
Can Chinese companies do the same to US laws?

Here is the fill the blank proclamation: Neither -------, nor any other entity whose stock-in-trade is --------, should ever have conceded to US officials' "right" to control ------ provided under their guidance.
03:07 AM on 01/23/2010
Imperialism? Maybe Ms. Clinton needs to read text from the diasterous Supreme Court decision which
Has dumped American voting rights into a deep hole which we will need to dig, dig dig to breath the air of freedom again.
11:35 PM on 01/22/2010
Three new terms I learn reading all these posts:

Information Imperialism - quite inventive from the Chinese

NeoLiberalism - observation that Hilary and kinds are not really liberals but using it for power grab, similar to NeoCon who stole the idea of Conservatim and turns it into disaster

and my favorite,

Natural Laws - when ask why America has the rights to interfere in China, someone came up with the justification of Natural Laws
12:44 AM on 01/23/2010
Natural laws sounds like inalienable rights.
07:54 AM on 01/23/2010
That sounds better.
11:19 PM on 01/22/2010
When Obama is launching an aggressive attack on Wall St thugs, Hilary is trying to steal the thunder mouthing off on China?
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Matt Osborne
08:44 PM on 01/22/2010
Two notes here: (1) The DOS should be extremely careful about creating a public perception within Chinese society that bloggers are agents of a foreign power. Information is one thing; money is another. DO NOT mix this up the way America did in Iran. (2) That Chinese society is split over Google tells you the communist party's decision to replace Maoist ideology with nationalistic fervor has succeeded in creating a right wing within Chinese society.
07:43 PM on 01/22/2010
Well said Hillary...keep up the good work.
11:21 PM on 01/22/2010
What good work? Is she working on getting more jobs back to America? Is she working on cleaning up our financial houses?

No ...... she found the time to pay lip services on Chinese Internet Access Rights.

Good job? What good job?!
12:47 AM on 01/23/2010
Hillary Clinton is our Secretary of State. She handles foreign relations, not banks and financial institutions. She's doing her job well.
07:41 PM on 01/22/2010
With all the hatred and distortiion coming out the anti-Obama reacrion of the far right one wonders if our notion of "free speach" is a proper model for anyone to follow. Having the Supreme Court approve unlimited corporate spending during elections adds to the suspicion that something is seriously wrong here.

China's unique problem of how to raise hundreds of millions of people from abject poverty and illiteracy to a decent standard of living, in an open society is not easily solved.. Clearly this is a necessity fraught with risk. Unfettered capitalism is harly the answer. Unchecked authoritarianism is equally useless - Tiananmen Square focuses the problem. China's problem doesn't boil down to a Tea-Party anymore than that could offer a solution here.
06:22 PM on 01/22/2010
Hillary - you go girl!
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07:11 PM on 01/22/2010
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06:14 PM on 01/22/2010
What they're really affraid of is New Tang Dynasty TV! They've been running a long, multi-part series of programs on Portland (Oregon) Public Access TV that are based on Official Documentaries produced by the CCP, and Official State Records from the Era of the so-called Cultural Revolution, the 'Great Leap Forward', and a number of more obscure programs - or should I say "pogroms" - that were the Death of True Intellectualism in China, during the 1940' and 50'.
If you haven't seen it already, I'd suggest you rent the Movie "Red Violin"; it's SCARY!
You see; they (the CCP) 'pretended' to 'Honor' the ancient tradition of Debate, as they slowly rose to Total Power during the 1940's and 50's - but they were really just 'tricking' the Intellectuals who came forward into identifying themselves, so they could be SHOT in the back of their heads.
This caused a 'Brain Drain' unlike even that caused by the Holocaust!
BTW; Epoch Times can LIE just as adeptly as the CCP - but that doesn't make chopping up Falun Dalfa Practitioners for their Organs any more correct!
11:24 PM on 01/22/2010
FOOL Long Gone is one extreme cult with members believing a wheel in their stomach if you mediate long enough and the wheel will get you places beyond this world. And they believe their cult leader Master Li is on par with Jesus and Budhaa.

And you listen to them. No wonder Hilary wants unbriddle Chinese internet access. They will finally get to listen to Mr. Li who is mysteriously living in US and mysteriously sending out commands on the FOOL practitioners on streets.
06:11 PM on 01/22/2010
Well before this administration put us in deep hock to China, we could speak our mind about their policies perhaps. She'd better be careful now. She's speaking to our owners.
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07:13 PM on 01/22/2010
What? This administration..... like Clinton and Bush didn't do it first?