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Obama Allies Struggle To Defend Spending Freeze

First Posted: 03/28/10 06:12 AM ET Updated: 05/25/11 04:20 PM ET

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Some of President Obama's strongest allies in the labor world and the Democratic community struggled on Tuesday to defend his plan to implement a three-year freeze on discretionary "non-security" spending.

SEIU President Andy Stern, who is closely allied with the White House, did his best to put a good face on the plan but expressed doubts about its effectiveness. Noting that the freeze in spending will only become operational in 2011, he argued that the administration has enough time to spend money on job creation initiatives and government programs that can turn the economy around.

"We are in 2010 and there is a lot that can be done (between now and then)," the union boss told the Huffington Post. "You can do state and local fiscal relief, you can do jobs, you can do many things this year. So I want to see what they are doing this year. You can always fix the future. You can't change the present."

But Stern also emphasized that if people thought a spending freeze was going to solve the nation's fiscal problems, they didn't "get the nature of what needs to be done right now to get people back to work."

"The only way to solve the deficit is have more people working," he concluded, during a forum on the American working class at the Center for American Progress.

It seems highly unlikely that the current Congress has the votes or the stomach to pass a major new jobs bill, except possibly for the middle-class tax credit package that the White House is now proposing. All of which gets to the major concern aired by economists studying this discretionary spending freeze -- at a time of 10 percent unemployment and economic recession, cutting off the valves of government spending has been blasted as poor policy and political posturing.

The CAP -- perhaps the most plugged-in think tank in Washington D.C. today -- released a report just last week in which it concluded that lawmakers who think "we could get the budget back to sustainability if we only cut out earmarks, or say that the solution is to simply freeze discretionary spending, are just peddling fiscal snake oil."

At the forum, CAP's president, John Podesta -- who served as the director of Obama's presidential transition team -- was asked to rationalize the president's spending freeze proposal in light of his own organization's scathing report.

"I served in an administration that lived under discretionary caps and had a statutory pay go. I think that worked. But my own view is that if you just isolate one element of the budget, you can't really get the job done. So I think there is some merit in what they are trying to do, making choices between discretionary spending -- stuff that works, enhance that. Stuff that doesn't, get rid of [it]. I'm a believer that that is a smart way to approach governing and government," Podesta said. "With respect to a long-term path... you can't get from here to there simply on the discretionary spending side even if you think that is an important thing to do."

But in a reflection of how this proposal has placed Democrats in a bind, while Podesta did his best rhetorical jujitsu (praising the theory behind the plan while expressing skepticism about the results), the blog under his organization's umbrella went on the attack. Think Progress published a post, at roughly the same time that Podesta and Stern were speaking, which depicted the spending freeze as a poorly-thought-out page out of the GOP playbook:

[M]any economists have blasted the plan for its potentially anti-stimulative effects and its focus on spending that is not the root cause of the country's long-term deficits. Nobel Prize winning economist Paul Krugman wrote that the freeze is "appalling on every level...shifting attention away from the essential need to reform health care and focusing on small change instead." Former Labor Secretary Robert Reich said that the freeze "will make it impossible for [Obama] to do much of anything for the middle class that's important." U.C. Berkeley economist Brad DeLong added "this is a perfect example of fundamental unseriousness: rather than make proposals that will actually tackle the long-term deficit...come up with a proposal that does short-term harm to the economy without tackling the deficit in any serious and significant way."


"And at its core, Obama's decision cedes to the right-wing both the idea that blanket cuts are necessary and the notion that cuts should be focused on domestic programs while defense spending goes untouched. And already, the right-wing is claiming the freeze as a victory, with the National Review's Jim Geraghty writing, "if the arguments in the coming years are between spending freezes and spending cuts, then we've already won.

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Some of President Obama's strongest allies in the labor world and the Democratic community struggled on Tuesday to defend his plan to implement a three-year freeze on discretionary "non-security" spen...
Some of President Obama's strongest allies in the labor world and the Democratic community struggled on Tuesday to defend his plan to implement a three-year freeze on discretionary "non-security" spen...
 
 
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12:34 PM on 01/27/2010
The President is expected to solve all the problems in this country TODAY or else. Get real, people, it ain't gonna happen. It's going to take years and support from ALL the people.
10:00 AM on 01/27/2010
The joy Behar's and John Stewart's are of the world have to come a realize Americans are not listening to them....they should stick to what little humor they do create. Behar who is no spring chicken more the likes of JoanRiversas far as looks and brains really shouldn't talk i guess the view show and barbara wawa give her the balls to say stuff...or she taking wackos pills from Nancey Disgrace ....a woman who can't let a question be asked before she thinks she already know the answer.....release the lawyers...lmao....but she is good when there is another commerical on from the show your watching.
12:15 PM on 01/27/2010
DanEboy; learn to speak clearly and spell so we know what you are saying.

Why is Joy Behar not credible because 'she is no spring chicken'? Her show to some of us is much better than Conan O'Brien (nice guy but not funny) and even Jay Leno, who has been around long enough (another nice guy, but). Older women are doing just fine on TV, finally: Diane Sawyer, Meredith Veira, Mika Bryzinski, Whoopie Goldberg, Oprah Winfree. Need I go on? And as for Jon Stewart, he is very popular with all ages, and he tells it like it is, with humor. You better get your glasses fixed so you can see clearly.
09:52 AM on 01/27/2010
Great that now a spending freeze after all the government jobs have been given out and most all salaries were increased by at least 20%...and now the great one says NOW a spending freeze....what a guy. What a lie. The BIG B/S begins at 9 pm....can't wait its about time there's something funny on TV other then Sienfeld reruns.
09:35 AM on 01/27/2010
Obama is obvious flailing about without a clue as to what will work to turn this Titanic around. And he certainly doesn't want to roil Wall Street ... better to not do too much about creating jobs.

If we were using real unemployment numbers, we would be talking about the 2nd Great Depression.

It's absurd.

IMHO
12:20 PM on 01/27/2010
I keep wondering where these jobs are to come from. Many were outsourced, computers have taken over many jobs and companies are still laying off people. This week, Walmart laid off 10,200 employees of Sam's Club and another major company (I forget name)is laying off 13,000. Think of all the mortgages, car payments, children to support, credit card debt that will be in trouble. Like I said, where are these jobs to come from? (I forgot automation, too). Our country is in trouble and it is not the President's fault, but he is supposed to 'fix' it. Good luck.
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08:51 AM on 01/27/2010
What a laugh!! A "spending freeze" on something that is UP 27.8% from the '08 budget!!!!

BUT!! Even funnier, a look at this group line item from the 2010 budget (approved and in place) shows the following:
2010: 675,000,000,000
2011: 656,000,000,000
2012: 624,000,000,000
2013: 621,000,000,000
2014: 622,000,000,000

The thing is budgeted to DECREASE the next three years!!! HIS FREEZE INCREASES THE BUDGET!!!!!
08:35 AM on 01/27/2010
The Cause Endures replied on Jan 27, 2010 at 01:07:18
“Congress is equally despicable, but Obama threatened to veto a spending bill that included F-22 fighter jets.

A health care bill that does not include drug reimportation and the public option he campaigned on? "I'm trying! Legislating is hard! Aw shucks, better luck next time guys!"

As far as finance reform - the man is Timothy Geithner's BOSS. Timothy Geithner has repeatedly argued against bank regulation...and only a year later has Obama decided to "get tough." !

But should we be surprised? These same banks are his top contributors:

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Obama outlined what he wanted in healthcare reform...and the majority democratic congress did not deliver...plain and simple!

As for finance reform...you say - "only a year later has Obama decided to "get tough." ! Ok...and many of us can appreciate the fact that he's now changing course and getting tough on the banks. Unfortunately...your cognitive dissonance won't allow you to accept anything Obama does.
12:25 PM on 01/27/2010
Watchful, don't forget to chastise the Reps, who did NOTHING to help with healthcare and helped to drag out the program for months while they entered amendments which they then voted against!

They do nothing but obstruct progress and call the Dems at fault. I hope the American people come to their senses and show the Reps for what they are.
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CulpeperMin
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08:28 AM on 01/27/2010
Earth to Statists:

http://www.zerohedge.com/article/fed-balance-sheet-hits-new-record-major-mbs-purchases-over-past-month

It's over, revolt against the Fed or starve.
07:59 AM on 01/27/2010
How can he defend denying Americans services when all these billions of dollars go to war:

http://americaspeaksink.com/2010/01/state-of-the-union-speech-is-state-of-delusion/comment-page-1/#comment-3754
12:30 PM on 01/27/2010
I don't blame the President for the wars, although I was against staying in Afghanistan, However, the cost of the wars is bankrupting us, and the Reps never say a word about it because they never saw a war they didn't like. Until we stop these wars, we will not recover financially. But we can't bring the military home because if they leave the Army, Navy or Marines, what jobs will be there for them??? The President is damned if he does and damned if he doesn't.
06:51 AM on 01/27/2010
BHO thinks spending on US wars of aggression is NOT discretionary? Is spending on bank bailouts discretionary? At whose discretion? Mine?

I would stop the wars. Deficit problem solved. QED.
peowlemeow
Democrat,non-military,undereducated,semi-retired.
05:05 AM on 01/27/2010
How about just giving the lobbyists nothing to do for three years ?No more money means no reason to have them pushing influence.
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Azrael1701
04:07 AM on 01/27/2010
Hmmm...I wonder why they are struggling to defend it. Maybe because Obama's spending freeze is wrong in every shape and form. I am a staunch liberal and I supported Obama and trumpted his praises. One of those reasons was that he refused to cave in to GOP pressure concerning freezing spending.

After all, freezing spending in critical areas of the economy and in key public sectors led to the worsening of the economic crisis in the 30s which prolonged and worsened the great depresseion. Te economy will not be able to even create more jobs without critical infusions of capital in the economy. What about not respending all the TARP money and use some of that to pay back the deficit. It will also eliminate the power Congrtess has to put critical controls on regulation to stop the actions which caused this mess in the first place.

This mess is not as simple as spend and you get a deficit. The economy is a multi-layered beast and all the president is doing is giving in to public fear! It makes me sick.
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AZreb
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08:07 AM on 01/27/2010
Sensible post - thank you. My Utopia would be a cut in defense spending, especially in the case of Iraq. After all, they have free elections, have a functioning government, have police and army, have money in their treasury and have oil contracts. We really don't need to be there, do we?

And Afghanistan - supporting a government that is corrupt on so many levels is ridiculous. And please don't give me that tired excuse of Al Qaeda and the Taliban. Our defenses for our own borders are so porous that hundreds of people and millions of pounds of drugs come across and into our country. Where is our Homeland Security? Seems like we should be thinking more about our ports and borders than some country thousands of miles away.

What good is it to be in a foreign country when our own country is so vulnerable? I am so fed up with BOTH parties of our government that I pray daily for a viable third party. Not the tea baggers - not the greenies - a party that puts our country first, not last.
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CulpeperMin
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08:14 AM on 01/27/2010
Wow you are in serious need of a history lesson an absolute, outright lie.

The "economic crisis in the 30s" was "prolonged and worsened" by a myriad of band-aid tariffs, price controls and public spending. Only the Federal Government could exhibit the economic stupidity REQUIRED to extend a fractional reserve banking crash to a national decade of decline.

To alleviate your "sickness":

The Federal Government is insolvent
It came within 3 days of technical default around the new year before the Senate voted to raise the debt limit (see that story amongst the MSM propaganda?)
The Federal Reserve has covertly monetized the federal government's debt for nearly two years , in the form of GSE issued Mortgage Backed Securities.
The Federal Reserve currently holds around $350 Billion in US Government Treasury Debt (most with maturity in excess of 5 years).
The Fed also holds close to $2 TRILLION in Mortgage Backed Securities issued by the GSEs. This amounts to covert monetization of the public debt as new currency is created backed by citizens mortgage debt.
The US Dollar, the Federal Reserve Note, is a claim on the assets of the Federal Reserve System. Given the Fed's now $3.5 Trillion balance sheet, the dollar is somewhere around 75% collateralized by Government Debt and Mortgage debt (No wonder the State propagandists are desperate to re inflate the housing bubble)

The foolish little jig is up, the Federal Government must atrophy or your living standard WILL.

Game over.
03:51 AM on 01/27/2010
Too much spending last year. Now we are going to free that crazy level for the next 3 years???? We need to reduce the spending back to normal years!
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lithium451
03:09 AM on 01/27/2010
It's now completely undisputable - Obama is clueless.
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05:05 AM on 01/27/2010
...or he is a right winger who figured how to corner the black vote
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IssuesInFocus
02:46 AM on 01/27/2010
President Obama has in his background the title "professor.' So on this I expect a good explanation on how this ' formula''' calling for a freeze will work.
At this juncture, I will avoid leaks... what's implied, and retain my calm and objectivity until the President outlines his intentions. Most important paying attention to HOW he will accomplish what he proposes. What I know for sure until us, the students/voters get it --understand the process, the teacher's efforts are meaningless. I will keep the faith that he will rise to the occasion tomorrow night. He has what it takes to do so! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5NZCWsbvS50
02:29 AM on 01/27/2010
When there is a hiring freeze, nobody gets hired.

This is not a freeze on spending, but a freeze on *growth* in spending. "We shall not spend more than we spent last year." Well, I think we spent a freaking boatload last year. We needed to. If we spend the same amount this year, it will still be a boatload.

It''s a game. This makes it sound good to fiscal conservatives. What they don't see is that freezing spending at really high levels is not really lowering spending.