Bloomberg: 'Very Happy' If 9/11 Trials Were Moved

KAREN MATTHEWS   01/27/10 05:54 PM ET   AP

Terror Trials

NEW YORK — Where should the men accused of planning the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks be tried? Not here, say New York City business and community leaders whose list of alternatives includes military bases, federal prisons and a 172-acre island in New York Harbor.

Even Mayor Michael Bloomberg, who previously supported the Obama administration's decision to hold the trial in New York, appeared to change his mind. "If they were to move it elsewheres, I'd be very happy with that," Bloomberg said Wednesday.

When U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder announced last month that professed Sept. 11 mastermind Khalid Sheikh Mohammed and four accused accomplices would be tried in federal court in lower Manhattan, the initial outcry was over trying them in a civilian court. Critics warned that the trial would give the men a world stage to spout anti-U.S. rhetoric.

Downtown Manhattan civic leaders and the Real Estate Board of New York say they have no problem with a civilian trial, but it should be somewhere else.

"We cannot do that again to lower Manhattan," said real estate board President Steven Spinola, whose group has set up a Web site, . http://www.MoveTheTrial.com

Julie Menin, chairwoman of Community Board 1 in lower Manhattan, said the Justice Department should consider "outside-the-box" ideas for a trial venue – places such as Governors Island, a former military base in New York Harbor that now welcomes summertime picnickers and bike riders; the U.S. Military Academy at West Point or Stewart Air National Guard Base in Newburgh, N.Y.

Community Board 1, a quasi-governmental body whose jurisdiction encompasses the federal courthouse and the nearby World Trade Center site, sent a letter to Holder on Wednesday requesting a study for "appropriate alternatives" within New York's southern judicial district.

No date has been set for the trial, which could take years. Stepped-up security will make it an expensive proposition.

Bloomberg has estimated the cost at $216 million for the first year after the suspects arrive in Manhattan from Guantanamo Bay, Cuba. After that, the mayor said it would cost $200 million annually for as long as the men are detained in the city – mainly overtime for extra New York Police Department patrols.

Bloomberg and other New York elected officials have called on the federal government to foot the bill.

Spinola of the real estate board said the steep price tag for security is only part of the problem.

"What's the economic impact on the city of New York?" he asked. "The restaurants in Chinatown, the small stores in lower Manhattan? This is just the wrong place to put the trial."

Dean Boyd, a Justice Department spokesman, said, "We are aware of the impacts that added security can have on neighboring communities, and we will work closely with local officials to minimize disruptions to the community to the greatest extent possible, consistent with security needs."

Spinola said the trial might be an economic boon somewhere else, with reporters filling hotels and restaurants.

Officials in two areas that have been floated as trial venues were doubtful.

Spinola mentioned the state prison in Ossining, also known as Sing Sing.

"It is just not an appropriate place for it," said Village of Ossining Mayor William Hanauer.

Community Board 1's list of possible trial locales includes a federal jail in Otisville, N.Y., about 65 miles northwest of New York City.

"There would be a tremendous impact on the community," said Otisville Deputy Mayor Diane Loeven. "There are no lodging accommodations within 10 miles. ... I can't even imagine it happening here."

Menin's first idea was Governors Island, a former U.S. Army and Coast Guard base just a half-mile ferry ride from lower Manhattan. In an op-ed piece in The New York Times, she noted that Confederate soldiers were imprisoned there during the Civil War.

But Governors Island has not been an Army base since 1966. The Coast Guard left in 1996, and the island has been transformed into a park that hosts art studios, Little League games and guided hikes.

"It's a new great public space for the people of New York City," said David Koren, executive director of Figment, which holds an annual arts festival on the island. "To put it back into a state where people can't get to it is really a crime."

Not to mention the fact that there is no courthouse on Governors Island. Legal experts said they know of no precedent for holding a federal trial anywhere besides a federal courtroom.

"It's far-fetched," said Daniel Richman, a former federal prosecutor and a professor at Columbia Law School. "To move the trial to some ... inaccessible location would threaten to diminish much of the legitimacy and adherence to process that the government is seeking to obtain in this case."

(This version CORRECTS that Sing Sing is a state prison.)

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12:30 PM on 02/03/2010
I live a block from the Fed Courthouse where the terror trials were planned to be held. There is no way security can be guaranteed in NYC/Lower Manhattan and this is why: 1000s of fake parking placards!! Terrorists love car bombs and it's so easy to get a fake parking placard - We all know that officers on the street are instructed to give parked cars with placards a "pass". You do recall the suspicious white van parked at Times Square for TWO days with a fake parking placard?! That white van exposed a gaping hole - a huge security breach that the NYPD cannot fix. The current permit parking system in NYC invites terrorists to use fake placards to disguise car bombs. For that reason alone - the trials need to be moved elsewhere to a place where this situation does not exist. Post 9/11 there were hundreds, if not thousands, of government sector commuter cars with parking placards, and they occupied every parking spot for years in lower Manhattan. The terror trials would necessitate even more of these government sector placarded vehicles (and lots of press vehicles), with each vehicle being a potential car bomb.
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03:23 PM on 01/28/2010
I'd be 'very happy' if you ran for mayor of Hackensack, New Jersey next time, mayor Bloomberg, but then, we can't have whatever we want.
05:50 AM on 01/28/2010
For security reasons they might consider moving these trials to Governor's Island in the East River which has very limited access and is a very short distance away.

These could be relatively short trials. Didn't these murderers confess? They could be found guilty in short order and the trials could proceed quickly to the sentencing phase.
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Balzac
03:06 AM on 01/28/2010
There will be disagreements between leaders. I'm impressed by the historically low level of crime and traffic accidents we're seeing in New York City.

In spite of the occasionally undiplomatic tone of my commentary (left over habits of posturing learned during an (hopefully bygone) era of dwelling in a state of political irrelevance), I'm happy about the direction Mayor Bloomberg is taking the city.

Regardless of this, there will be disagreements. I disagree with the idea that Khalid Sheik Mohammad's trial should be moved elsewhere. A close friend of mine, who lives close to the site of the WTC site disagrees with me.

He is concerned with the immediate effects on the down-town Manhattan area more than the historical and geopolitical significance of the choice. I think the symbolism and the practicality of the choice of location are appropriate.
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Balzac
03:33 AM on 01/28/2010
The disagreement between leaders I'm referring to here is the disagreement between Mayor Bloomberg and Attorney General Eric Holder. (I'm quite accustomed to flogging my ego, but I don't wish to be mistaken for a delusional character.)
11:08 PM on 01/27/2010
The trial would be great for the NYC economy. It would be good for the families, rescue workers and everyone. except for those people who were and still are complicit in the 9/11 event.
12:40 AM on 01/28/2010
Really? Two questions for you.

1 - Do you live in NYC?

2 - In what way(s) would it be good for the economy of our (if you do live here) city?
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Balzac
02:54 AM on 01/28/2010
What?
09:48 PM on 01/27/2010
Why did we never think of the impact on Chinese restaurants in Chinatown. Everybody knows that whenever there is a big trial nobody wants to eat Chinese food. Thank you Mr Spinola for reminding us.
08:59 PM on 01/27/2010
It was a disasterous idea to have the trial in NYC from the very get go and it's probably not going to happen. Good. Should be a military matter anyway.
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Mikeeee
conservatism = "low-effort" thinking.
08:33 PM on 01/27/2010
I see move the trial site doesn't have a means of replying, so I'll do it here. Get some cajones.
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08:29 PM on 01/27/2010
MOVE THE TRIAL HERE (MI)! I would love to get a job guarding the courthouse.... or ANY job for that matter!
08:12 PM on 01/27/2010
There are things in each of our lives that are unpleasant to do, however we all have to do them. Hard things take courage. So, to the Mayor of New York City... do your job.
08:12 PM on 01/27/2010
This is a huge loser for Obama and the Democrats. They new to take a different approach as quickly as possible.
09:07 PM on 01/27/2010
House Minority Leader John Boehner said Wednesday the Obama administration doesn’t have the votes to change the law to move detainees to U.S. territory for trial or to spend $500 million to refurbish the Thompson prison in Illinois to host the detainees who would be held there while awaiting trial in New York City.

“There is not going to be a trial in New York, I guarantee it. There is no appetite for the trials in Congress,” Boehner, R-Ohio, said.
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Mikeeee
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08:02 PM on 01/27/2010
Such a typical conservative. wants vengeance, but hasn't the courage to stand for it himself, so would be happier for someone else to do the job.
Just more evidence that the founding fathers were people of courage and integrity, you know liberals.
07:52 PM on 01/27/2010
New York City lost 1000s in the 9/11 terrorist attacks, and thousands more continue to die from the resulting air pollution. We will not be an unbiased jury, but we deserve justice for our loss.
07:49 PM on 01/27/2010
Republicans are the most timid type in our country. They are full of muster when it comes to bombing "others" yet have absolutely no spine in their own back yard. As a LIBERAL I take offense at these types calling themselves Americans.
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08:03 PM on 01/27/2010
Spot on! They insult the courage and forethought of the founding fathers every time they open their mouths.
07:43 PM on 01/27/2010
Duh! Who wouldn't be. This will go down as one of the major "missteps" of this administration. Scott Brown campaigned against this and more will do so in November unless congress votes to withold funding and saves Obama major embarrassment and a lot of Democrats their seats.