Reactions To The State Of The Union From People Being Squeezed Out Of The Middle Class

First Posted: 03/29/10 06:12 AM ET Updated: 05/25/11 04:20 PM ET

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President Obama spoke in his State of the Union address about how health insurance reform could help middle class families.

"I took on health care because of the stories I've heard from Americans with preexisting conditions whose lives depend on getting coverage; patients who've been denied coverage; families -- even those with insurance -- who are just one illness away from financial ruin," he said.

The Huffington Post asked three people who are being squeezed out of the middle class for their reaction to Obama's speech.

Heather and Greg Mroz of Fort Lauderdale, Fla., told HuffPost they are in the process of filing for bankruptcy after losing their insurance earlier this year because, Mroz said, they failed to notify the insurance company that they had twins instead of just one baby.

"It all came crashing down on us when I took our babies to their third doctor's appointment," said Heather Mroz, 24. "I handed them our insurance card and they said it was canceled." After they lost their insurance, they accumulated $480,000 in debt before they stopped counting. They've since moved in with her parents. "Before all this mess, we were middle class," said Mroz. "Now, we're homeless."

Mroz said she loved the way Obama seemed to take a hard line with Congress. "What he said was great," said Mroz. "I hope he has finally grown a backbone."

On Monday, the administration previewed initiatives to help the middle class, including a more generous child-care tax credit, a cap on student loan payments, and help for people caring for their parents.

Kristen Huff, a 35-year-old lawyer in Austin, Texas feels sandwiched by the pressures of raising two kids and taking care of her 56-year-old father, who she said recently suffered a catastrophic stroke in the brain stem. She told HuffPost that even though he has what she calls a "Cadillac" health insurance plan, the cost of taking care of him is extremely burdensome. She said her family is current on the bills but racking up credit card debt.

"I would say that we don't feel middle class," said Huff. She said she doesn't know how she will afford college for her children or her own retirement.

She said that Obama did an excellent job in his speech of aligning himself with regular people and showing leadership.

"It's not about the policy. I think it's about morale," she said. "It's about trying to get the tone of Washington, the tone of Congress, more in line with the tone of everybody's lives."

Mary Duffy of Redwood City, Calif. volunteered for the Obama campaign because she wanted health care reform. The three-time breast cancer survivor knows what it's like to be denied insurance because of a preexisting condition. Her desire to see the health insurance industry reformed became particularly acute when she lost her job in June of 2008. She continued her employer's coverage through COBRA, but spent all of 2009 applying for jobs knowing that her COBRA coverage would end in December.

The health care bill passed by the House, had it become law, would have saved Duffy by providing an automatic extension of her COBRA benefits -- which were subsidized at a rate of 65 percent by the stimulus bill -- until she becomes eligible for a low-cost plan through an insurance "exchange" in 2013. And both the Senate and the House versions created a high-risk plan for people unable to get private insurance that would have gone into effect immediately starting on Jan. 1, 2010 (though the Senate version would have been slightly less accessible than the House version).

Duffy, 60, said she gave up on Obama weeks ago. She told HuffPost she watched the State of the Union while trying to order medicine online from a Canadian pharmacy for the first time since she lost her COBRA coverage. She was not impressed by the speech.

"Overall, it was a nice speech," she said. "Could have been given by anybody. George W Bush could have given that speech."

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04:50 PM on 01/28/2010
Here's how you fix the economy this week, president: issue a signing statement raising taxes on the rich at such a steep exponential rate that it becomes undesirable to be a money hoarding richie. Get this country back to pride for working for money.

Do I have to think of everything?
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tralbry
05:15 PM on 01/28/2010
You don't seem to know how signing statements work for one thing, so no, you don't have to think of everything.
04:50 PM on 01/28/2010
I agree with what Chuck Todd said: Obama’s SOTU address was in large part directed at Independents.

Who are these independents anyway? Some say most of them are populists concerned about the size of government and the deficit. Some say most of them don’t really know what’s going on, and tend to make decisions in the voting booth based on how they’ve been emotionally swayed during the weeks before the election.

It’s clear that the party that makes the biggest gains in 2010 will be the one that both understands how to craft a strong message to the different strains of independents, and controls how the message gets out there.

Right now, repubs seem to have the upper hand, not uncommon for the minority party in off years, especially when times are tough. Sadly, bizarrely, the misleading rhetoric of the tea-baggers, loudmouth you-liars and Palinista types has contributed to repub success. The major media are letting them get away with this, and the dems are clueless about how to deal with it.

Dems need to find their populist voice. The way the major media works these days, always emphasizing controversy and shock value, which tends to strengthen the current minority party’s message, will make it tough going for the dems. Obama may be an exception, but he can’t be everywhere on the road to 2010. He did a good job last night. But he and his party have got an uphill battle ahead of them.
04:27 PM on 01/28/2010
Presidential speeches are written by speech writers who are well versed in rhetoric. The art of persuasive writing. That's all a Presidential speech is - what they think you want to hear. Actions speak louder than words. Before anyone rants about the cost of health care, why don't we find out how much it is going to cost each person by income? The middle class will take the hit, no doubt. It's called the "de-incentive program". I work my arse off, go to college, take out student loans, work hard at my profession, and then I have to pay for the next guy's insurance who chose none of the above. It is the person living next to you, who makes a mere $50k a year more than you, who will be pulling money out of his pocket to pay for your health care. Not Bill Gates. Not the Wall Street Bankers. They stash their money in offshore accounts. But you and I? The IRS will be looking into YOUR bank account under Obama Care.
05:30 PM on 01/28/2010
Exactly. If you choose to pursue the avenues open to you and work hard, even if it is not what you want to do, that will provide you and your family the money and benefits they need but the guy next to you chooses to watch Jenny Jones/ Maury Povich, why should I pay for his healthcare and watch a degradation of mine (that will invariably come).

The joys of modern liberalism.....
03:10 PM on 01/28/2010
In the article, the last individual interviewed, Duffy, said that "George W. Bush could have given that speech."

Um.....No -- he couldn't have.
03:47 PM on 01/28/2010
George W. Bush COULD NOT HAVE GIVEN THE SAME SPEECH since he is the very essence of a different philosophical bent. That why he is a REPUBLICAN!!

GWB supports "supply-side economics", a failing strategy since 1929.
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tralbry
05:17 PM on 01/28/2010
I think supply side as invented in the 1970's but otherwise, yes.
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blueken
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03:02 PM on 01/28/2010
The financial/drug and insurance have eaten this economy whole. Until we contain those three key industries, we are on the road to nowhere. The only advancement the middle class has seen in the last twenty years was the selling price of thier homes. Now that is gone. The very top of the food chain has benifited from all the increases in productvity of middle. Now the middle is struggling. Wall Street took home 28% of the wages paid out in New York City. Those workers represent 2% of the populaton of New York City. Class warefare is in it's final round. If we don't stand up now, I fear we will not have another chance. Those of us who still have jobs should chip in for buses so that the unemployed to can to Wasington and let them know, we won't take it anymore. What would happen if this spring a couple of million people took a bus ride to DC to let them know just how we feel?
02:44 PM on 01/28/2010
I will not be helped. I am being forgotten. Single, white, over 50, and well educated.

I am no longer middle class but living at the poverty level and soon to lose my home that I have paid the mortgage on for 25 years. My home is not upside down.

Raised my kids here for 23 years as a single parent the whole time. Worked my rear end off. Always paid my bills. Kept up with my career - reaching upper management level.

Cannot even get an interview for a bartending job. Any suggestions anyone. I have been responsible my whole life and now I will be penalized with losing everything while the less responsible are all being helped.

And don't tell me to sell my house as the price I will get is laughable.
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mjtaylor22
03:18 PM on 01/28/2010
FIRST BLAME THE PRIVATE SECTOR FOR THROWING YOU AWAY LIKE NOTHING.
2ND THINK OF A BUSINESS YOU CAN START
03:29 PM on 01/28/2010
Ask Obama for a bailout.
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mjtaylor22
05:15 PM on 01/28/2010
FAIL
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tralbry
05:22 PM on 01/28/2010
Compassionate conservatism on parade. That's you.
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Tom Payned
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12:53 PM on 01/28/2010
If the speech served only one purpose, it was worth it.

The rethugs sitting on their hands when Obama called for a tax on Wall St. Bankers to pay back the rest of the TARP. Priceless to know they continue to stand with Wall St. over Main St. That will make a great campaign ad.

Pointing out the bills passed by the house that would create jobs, but can't get out of the Senate, and why, yet another fine reason for the speech.

Calling the Rethugs out for their plan on health care, another worthwhile moment.

Watching Rethugs sit on their hands as Obama stated we must stop giving tax cuts to companies who relocate overseas, and give them to the companies that stay here.

While the country moans and groans about the "Obama" administration, they need to take off their blinders and take a look to the left and to the right. The right is doing NOTHING but acting as an obstruction.

As Obama pointed out last night, if all you do is obstruct instead of legislate, you will also own the results.

It's time for the end of the Super Majority.

It was never as clearly addressed as last night.

One other priceless moment, was looking at those 5 conservative SCOTUS' and telling them to their face, how they are nothing more than bought and paid for h@@kers and have sold the U.S. to foreign Corporations.
12:56 PM on 01/28/2010
As posted elsewhere, the SCOTUS decision did NOT revoke, rescind or invalidate the portion of McCain-Feingold that applies to FOREIGN contributions.....it applies only to DOMESTIC contributions, PACS and UNIONS......
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Tom Payned
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01:05 PM on 01/28/2010
All a foreign corporation has to do is open a American Subsidiary. It's done all the time. A simple shell corporation will do.

Don't be so naive.
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deltalady
01:28 PM on 01/28/2010
Whew! I feel so much better. Those American corporations have a real heart that those "foreigners" do have. (see Tom Paynd comment that hits the nail right on the head). How do you think companies like Halliburton can enjoy small business status? Subsidiaries!!
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darr
12:58 PM on 01/28/2010
FANNED!!!!
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DSOTM
Legalize it, now!
12:44 PM on 01/28/2010
An American born friend of mine has lived in Switzerland since 1982 and has no desire to move back to the US, he is now a citizen of Switzerland as well.

He said the one big difference between health care in his country as in the US is that you never see a 5K Run or a Bake-Sale to raise funds for a neighbors medical bills.
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metogamekun
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12:58 PM on 01/28/2010
But I bet the Swiss don't have our sense of community. ;)
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05:19 PM on 01/28/2010
Do they really want it?
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PWM
Eisenhower Rep. The 1% started class warfare.
06:08 PM on 01/28/2010
We sure showed the people of Iraq our sense of community.
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Lawyer822
Let's debate with facts
12:42 PM on 01/28/2010
To Mary Duffy if you've given up on President Obama for trying to get healthcare will you turn to Republicans who have been the obstructionist and never took up healthcare reform will Bush was in office. Your expectations are un-realistist....
01:36 PM on 01/28/2010
way to single her out and kick people when they are down and out. it's not like she called the reporter to give her condition.
many of us lost faith in him weeks ago. That's merely pragmatic ---and quite realistic, quite in touch with reality. actions speak louder than words.
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02:08 PM on 01/28/2010
President Obama trying to pass legislation for the benefit of the citizens of this country is pragmatic. Obstructing legislation is counter productive to those same citizens, you know, the ones that pay this countries salaries and debts. You know, we really didn't vote for any of them to NOT do anything, at least I didn't.
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lisaman
vote for your best interests or shut up
02:37 PM on 01/28/2010
Or you never really had faith in him to begin with. Or you expected a miracle worker. Whatever.
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maggiee
04:18 PM on 01/28/2010
Did I miss the party where Mary Duffy said she'd turn to the Republicans? I know how she feels. I See President Obama going further and further to the right and I think the same thing she does. How is this change at all?
12:19 PM on 01/28/2010
Inflation adjusted wages up 20% in the last 20 years

While

Housing costs up 56%
Healthcare cost up 155%

In order to see what will become of the middle class, do the math.
01:46 PM on 01/28/2010
proof of wages being up?

It's good to remember, for example, that "research from economists Emmanuel Saez and Thomas Piketty that showed that in 2004, the top 1 percent of earners --a group that includes many chief executives --received 11.2 percent of all wage income, up from 8.7 percent a decade earlier and less than 6 percent three decades ago."
So, you are including a tiny group of super high earners that takes up a large percentage of all wages paid out. Any statistical studies showing that "Inflation adjusted wages up 20% in the last 20 years " are nothing less than grossly inaccurate as regards the other 99 percent of us--but more likely, they are cooked and served by GOP institutes.
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carbolaw
02:31 PM on 01/28/2010
Exactly, people need to start looking at the levels of inequality in this country and taking serious steps not to just remedy "procedural equality," but to remedy substantive equality. We are lacking in both. The health of our entire nation depends on this. Just two examples of the growing inequality -the after tax share of overall income going to the top 1% of people in this country is up over 220% since the advent of Reaganomics, and the GINI coefficient of equality in the US both in terms of wealth and income is fast approaching the levels typical of third world countries. This is not sustainable.
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mjtaylor22
03:12 PM on 01/28/2010
NAH WAGES STAGNANT IF NOT ACTAULLY LESS THAN THEY SHOUDL BE ,
WE JUST HAD 10 YEARS OF INCREASD PRODUCTIVITY
WITH A LOWERING OF WAGES, SO MANY PEOPLE WERE UNDER EMPLOYED UNDER BUSH, IT IS A WONDER THEY ANY ONE LASTED THRU HIS PRESIDENCY WITH ANY EQUITY IN TACT
12:17 PM on 01/28/2010
You know, one thing I've notice after reviewing posting and comments on a number of sights is that so many have lost all sense of rationality to crippling cynicism - they're so lost that they couldn't listen to what the Presidents said much less hear them. (Ms. Duffy seems to fall in that camp.) So just remain bitter and give up, is that the plan? Be so cynical that no amount of reality, facts or logic can permeate their shell? They can wallow in it - I will choose to support and keep my faith in the president, and I will continue to contact those that represent me in the house and senate and work with OFA and let my voice be heard. It may be insignificant in the big picture, but at least I know I've done my part - it beats being bitter and irrational and just giving up.
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Mafdet
12:33 PM on 01/28/2010
I think your position is irrational. Fundamentally irrational. If government is serving you, preserve it with your vote. If it is not, then public declarations about the deficits we perceive are the only currency we can spend in this system. That's America, baby.
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darr
01:06 PM on 01/28/2010
Cosigned and fanned!
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mancoff
12:16 PM on 01/28/2010
Obama is the first President I have heard that I felt connected to me and my status as a middle class voter. I felt he recognized that I worked all my life, paid my bills, saved and saved to retire, raised my children and educated them, asked for nothing, was left behind for the past decade to flail and flounder and if I got sucked under, too bad. He heard it, he lived it himself as did his wife and he got it. He offered hope and he offered help but still had responsiblilities in other areas that he would not ignore. He was resonable and honest and sincere. The reason this country is so polarized is that we have Fox news dishing nothing but dirt and horrendous hate mongering and we the rest of the media scared to death to give the President too much credit where credit is due. Fox's clever ploy to deliver only right wing propoganda while screaming the rest of the media is biased in order to keep them from being too complimentary or too positive regarding Obama has turned mainstream and left wing media into wussies. The media doesn't have to lie and fear monger like Fox news does, they can be as powerful with the truth as Fox can with lies and they can stop being so afraid to tell this country how great this President is.
12:21 PM on 01/28/2010
Fox News, and its ilk, is what you get when govt abandons its job of enforcing antitrust laws. They are still on the books but they seem never to be used to stop monopolies from forming.
12:27 PM on 01/28/2010
NBC (and its subdivisions), CBS, ABC? Afraid to talk up this President? Are you KIDDING? I've never heard anything but puff pieces and congratulatory fluffery regarding Obama on ANY of these "news" sources. Fox News hatemongering? And what do you call MSNBC, which does the same misinformation with a left-wing slant?
12:29 PM on 01/28/2010
I call MSNBC entertainment..... at times....
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mancoff
12:40 PM on 01/28/2010
When you make the statement that msnbc does nothing but puff pieces on Obama and fluffery then I know for sure, you don't watch MSNBC. You are one of those that think that while Fox can operate as a mini heaquarters for the Republican party and Beck and Limbaugh can hate and fear monger and name call all they want, the rest of the media better not give the President credit where credit is due. If they do it will be called bias. an Fox is not only biased, that doesn't satisfy them enough, they want to scream bias at everyone else to ensure that they and people like you, inhibit too much telling of the truth. You see for Fox and right wing radio and those on the right, Truth Hurts......
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Okieborn
Equal Rights For All !
11:57 AM on 01/28/2010
The American citizenry had better re-think getting mad at President Obama, try to remember the eight miserable Bush years !!
The Republicans and some of the Democrats who sold out to the Pharmaceutical and Insurance companies stopped Healthcare in it's tracks !!!
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Chopin
Multiply the truth. Speak truth through power.
12:15 PM on 01/28/2010
What you're saying is "This dog don't hunt" is better than "that dog don't hunt". You want people to believe that, and pay for the consequences and burden of "two dogs don't hunt". That line had been tried 8years ago, and 16years ago, and . . .

Sooner or later, even the most retarded folks would get the idea "Why do we need two dogs don't hunt in the house, eating up all the food"? America is fast approaching that day of awakening and reckoning.
12:28 PM on 01/28/2010
The sooner the better....
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mancoff
12:54 PM on 01/28/2010
Cute and clever, but absolutly does nothing to further the middle class plight or unite the country. You can't pick someone off the streeet and say, hey, your new, your different , your not a politician so step right up to the white house and solve our problems. One side brought us to disaster, the other side has made it better allready and needs more time to prove itself. That won't bring in big news audiences and it won't make commentators rich and famous or politicians well known and powerful but it will give good people time to go about the business of doing whatever it takes to get this country going again.
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mancoff
12:46 PM on 01/28/2010
Okieborn, fanned and faved, this country and the Independents and Dems are going to cut off their nose to spite their face and put us right back in the hands of the people who got us in this mess. The middle class has been totally ignored for the past 10 years and now Obama has opened the door and mentioned the plight of the middle class (Bush rarely said the words middle class) wasn't even in his vocabulary. Wise up Dems and Independents, you've dumbed down for eight years and you fell asleep at the wheel, don't do it again and don't bring back those on the right that gave you the narcotics (lies and secrets and misinformation) that put you to sleep.
11:52 AM on 01/28/2010
At least this President makes a effort to focus on the middle class. What results will come from it is yet to me determined. I am sure the republicans are skirming around in their seat at the idea of allowing the push for higher education in this country, especially at the expense of the Government. it is
11:55 AM on 01/28/2010
When it comes to policy, there ain't a dime's worth of difference between Obama and Bush. Kinda makes you wonder who's running the government, doesn't it?
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Mafdet
12:40 PM on 01/28/2010
That's right. He has preserved the status quo as regards economic policy. My heart did a nose dive when Obama began his speech with a list of impressive legislative accomplishments that made me think: When did all this happen? And then he ended it by saying: All those things were included in the stimulus package we passed...which of course was just more of the same.

But $30b for small business is what I wanted to hear. Now if we aren't barred from getting it by layer upon layer of SBA and banking regulation like we were last year when $5b was dangled, we will do our part and hire people. We are dying...AND I DO MEAN DYING...to hire people.
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mancoff
09:18 AM on 01/29/2010
The Republicans in the Congress are the same republicans who supported Bush and they still follow his policies and they sure as hell don't seem to think Bush and Obama are one in the same or they wouldn't be saying No, no, no to everthing Obama wants to do. The republicans are trying to distance themseves from Bush and they are running for office under the guise of being Independents because they know how unpopular the Republican party is. But the truth is, those guys like Brown are Repbulican through and through. The republicans brought this country into this awful mess, Obama is nothing like Bush and the Republicans want him out so they can go back and operate exactly as they did for eight years under Bush. And all the new faces the Republicans put out there who pretend they are not tied to the Old Guard Repulbicans are wolves in sheeps clothing so keep an eye on how they vote in Congress and you will see them voting with their Bushie brethern right down the line. Obama like Bush, ridiculous and ignorant. Thats why they get so furious when they have to sit and listen to how Bush and the republican congress did and did not do when they were in power. It infuiates them and they would like everyone to just forget it and it ain't gonna happen.
11:47 AM on 01/28/2010
So he claims that 2 million jobs were saved for police, firefighters and teachers. Now he wants to put more money into infrastructure jobs shich wil lmake highway workers happy. And he says that local state and fed government jobs have been saved. But what about help for Barbers and butchers and computer techs and hair dressers and, and , and, ....... What about the other 120Million or so American workers that are still losing jobs? So if I don't work for some goive agency, I ge the shaft.

Thanks president nothing.
11:50 AM on 01/28/2010
That's true. The only sector of the economy that is actually GAINING jobs is the GOVERNMENT sector...and by extension, unions......
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ErnestineBass
No longer a cog in The Machine.
11:58 AM on 01/28/2010
What is it with you people and unions?
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02:20 PM on 01/28/2010
Gov't sector including the military. Anyone can't find a job, enlist. Where I live, there are many military personnel, all speeding up and down the highway with no regard to actually obeying the laws of this nation. Yet they are supposedly 'defending' the law of the land. Just more from the all you can eat BS buffet.
While so many people are still pist that the US lost in Viet Nam, how many remember anything about it? However, WPA projects are still here, you can see them, touch them, drive on them, drink from them. And yes, the infrastructure needs the attention, but that would be nation building, something we don't do, especially in this nation.
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12:25 PM on 01/28/2010
Most small businesses have had no banking support for nearly 2 years, so we can not show strong financials. We have all been fighting to survive. We have pulled back any good or service that is capital instensive, even if those are strong profit centers, because we've had to preserve cash flow because the banks wouldn't give us any lines of credit. In fact, after they received our bail-out cash, the major banks PULLED ALL SMALL BUSINESS LINES OF CREDIT! So we can't show income growth.

Last summer, $5b was supposed to be routed to not just small business, but to distressed small business, but it was so bound up in SBA and FDIC and individual bank guidelines that the businesses for which that money was offered, couldn't qualify for it. I imagine the only businesses that could, were consulting firms that don't hire people or have overhead.

If the $30b about which Obama spoke last night truly is made available to small business, stressed small business, my company will be hiring before the ink is dry on our loan papers.