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Health Care 'Stalemate'

ERICA WERNER   01/29/10 12:00 AM ET   AP

Health Care Overhaul

WASHINGTON — President Barack Obama's health care appeal failed to break the congressional gridlock Thursday, dimming hopes for millions of uninsured Americans. Democrats stared down a political nightmare – getting clobbered for voting last year for ambitious, politically risky bills, yet having nothing to show for it in November.

The grim reality opened a divide between the rank and file and congressional leaders, who insisted health care would get done, even though last week's special election in Massachusetts denied Democrats the 60-vote majority they need to deliver in the Senate. Many Democrats saw a problem with no clear solution.

"It's very possible that health care is just a stalemate and you can't solve it this year," said Sen. Mark Pryor, D-Ark.

If Obama and Democrats fail to pass any legislation this election year, Washington would still face the problem of millions of uninsured, rising medical costs and a dwindling Medicare trust fund forecast to run out of money in 2017.

Obama's health care overhaul is "on life support," said Sen. Mary Landrieu, D-La., "but it still has a pulse."

Obama urged lawmakers in Wednesday night's State of the Union address not to abandon the effort on what was once his top domestic priority. But his enthusiastic words provided no specific prescription for moving forward, leaving lawmakers little better off than before.

Senate Democratic leaders huddled Thursday afternoon to try to determine how to proceed, emerging to report progress, and the White House remained engaged in the negotiations. A Senate aide said lawmakers were hoping to decide on a legislative strategy by the end of next week.

Republican senators said senior White House officials had reached out to several in their ranks, including some conservatives, despite the unanimous GOP opposition to the far-reaching bill.

Sen. Jim DeMint, R-S.C., who last year said stopping Obama on health care could be his Waterloo, said Thursday, "What I was saying was if he continued to push this massive takeover that it could be his Waterloo, and now it very well could be."

In a sign of how far health care had fallen since Obama campaigned on it, Senate Democrats devoted a weekly policy lunch Thursday to discussing jobs, not health care. In a letter to supporters outlining Democrats' 2010 agenda, House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer didn't even mention health care, although a spokeswoman said the e-mail was sent by Hoyer's campaign team and was not meant to be an exhaustive list of priorities. House and Senate leaders insisted success on health care was still in reach.

"We're going to move forward on health reform. We're going to do health care reform this year," said Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev.

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi acknowledged in her weekly news conference that plenty of work remained if the House was to agree to changes to the Senate bill.

"We will go through the gate. If the gate is closed, we will go over the fence. If the fence is too high, we will pole vault in. If that doesn't work, we will parachute in," Pelosi said. "But we are going to get health care reform passed for the American people."

Just two weeks ago House and Senate leaders were working round the clock at the White House, with Obama personally involved, to merge legislation passed separately by each chamber and finalize a bill for Obama to sign in time for his State of the Union speech. That effort was upended when Republican Scott Brown claimed the Senate seat long held by the late Edward M. Kennedy.

Since then Democrats have struggled to find a way forward. The leading strategy is for the House to pass the Senate bill along with a package of changes approved by both chambers, but that idea is fraught with difficulties both political and substantive. Some Democrats favor retreating from a comprehensive overhaul and taking a less ambitious approach with a series of individual initiatives or a smaller bill.

"Is there a gate someplace to get through and try to save some common areas of health care reform in both the House and the Senate bill? We'll see," said Sen. Byron Dorgan, D-N.D.

The powerful seniors' lobby AARP weighed in Thursday, urging lawmakers in a letter to "continue to work together to enact comprehensive health care reform legislation this year."

As Democratic leaders sought a way through the health care logjam, they reminded the rank and file that there are no easy solutions, politically or otherwise.

Two unpleasant choices face Democratic lawmakers who voted for the health care changes last year and who now worry about their re-election prospects this fall.

If a bill becomes law, they will have to convince a doubting public of its benefits, and conservatives are bound to keep up the attacks. If no bill passes, it's possible that public anger over the health care issue will subside a bit. But many Democratic strategists say GOP challengers will constantly remind people of the incumbents' votes, and Democrats will seek re-election with nothing to show on health care despite controlling the House, Senate and White House – and with hefty majorities.

Compounding the problems was growing distrust between the House and the Senate.

While lawmakers struggle, Wall Street is celebrating the sinking prospects for a sweeping overhaul that would put new taxes and requirements on insurance companies. Insurers have opposed the overhaul even though it aims to insure more than 30 million people over the next decade with a new requirement for nearly everyone to be covered.

An analysis distributed by UBS Investment Bank after the State of the Union speech stated: "Investors should proceed as if the health care effort is dead."

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Associated Press writers Ben Evans, Donna Cassata, Charles Babington, Alan Fram and Ricardo Alonso-Zaldivar contributed to this report.

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Randolph Greer
I am a Poet .
08:48 PM on 02/03/2010
I thought President Obama's comments to the Democrats in congress was like the pot calling the kettle black . He says they have been" too timid "in trying to placate Republicans . No one has shown more timidity than the President . He should have never even bothered with Lieberman or anyone else . Just take it through "reconcilliation ." Instead , Obama has wasted a full year taking the power the people gave him and acted like he was the general of an army in retreat . Well sir , if you are leading a retreating army , don't you dare tell your men and women to stand and fight .
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geaaronson
03:56 PM on 02/03/2010
so you have a link to a news website that has no information whatsoever about the supposed Canadian governor who takes medical treatment in the us.
03:17 PM on 02/03/2010
Now that the public option ahs been dropped, people opposed the health care reform bill. What does that say to US? People want some form of public health care, now. The House got it, but If the Senate doesn't want to get it, the bill is doomed to die.
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gino618
09:26 AM on 02/02/2010
Let's have a system like Canada, huh?

If it's so good, why is the Premier of a Canadian Province coming to the US for treatment?

http://cbc.qwapi.com/site?t=xncRD1Eb8xb6h0Q92gtohw&sid=cbc
05:39 PM on 02/03/2010
It comes down to: do you want good healthcare for everyone (Canada), or the best healthcare for the rich and crap healthcare for the poor (US)?

Someone from a town of 150,000 people ... the largest town in his state ... was advised to go out-of-state for top medical care, and to see a specialist in a larger town. No surprise there.

He chose to fly to the US, because he didn't care what his healthcare cost. And in any case, if you are rich (as he is) why not go to a hospital which is half-empty and waiting for rich people? Why bother lining up behind all the (smelly poor) people being treated for free at the Canadian hospitals? Because that's the secret of Canada, and public healthcare: being rich doesn't buy you better access to healthcare. Everyone gets to access it. The sickest are treated first, not the richest.

And everyone is treated. Without regard to race, wealth, class or other factors. It's one of those democratic things ... sort of like everyone has the right to vote? Everyone has the right to healthcare. Whether they are rich or not.

A novel concept for Americans, I know.
05:22 AM on 01/31/2010
Someone needs to inform these critters in Congress that all the whining and excuses are done with all eyes open that reconciliation requires 51 votes, not 60. They need to get to work, and stop all their giddy crap over what shade of purple to wear to the SOTU. Health care is a right, and they have a legal responsibility to see to it, that Americans have access to quality health care. We're ranked 37th in the world, for crying out loud.
01:13 AM on 01/31/2010
Will you reporters stop telling us what "wall street is saying" or that they are "celebrating the so called health care reform's demise".

Tell the truth. Health care stocks are DOWN since the Dems lost the Massachusetts senate seat.

This bill was great for them since the Public Option got stripped and they know it. You think they are dumb enough to say they were for it?
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Tom Joad
"While there is a lower class, I am in it "
09:57 AM on 01/30/2010
An open letter to the Democratic leadership of Our Congress:

The Republiban never feared using the budget reconciliation process. Below are major acts passed using reconciliation during the last 30 YEARS:

Omnibus Reconciliation Act of 1980
Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act of 1981
Tax Equity and Fiscal Responsibility Act of 1982
Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act of 1982
Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act of 1983
Consolidated Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act of 1985
Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act of 1986
Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act of 1987
Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act of 1989
Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act of 1990
Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act of 1993
Balanced Budget Act of 1995 (vetoed)
Personal Responsibility and Budget Reconciliation Act of 1996
Balanced Budget Act of 1997
Taxpayer Relief Act of 1997
Taxpayer Refund and Relief Act of 1999 (vetoed)
Marriage Tax Relief Act of 2000 (vetoed)
Economic Growth and Tax Relief Reconciliation Act of 2001
Jobs and Growth Tax Relief Reconciliation Act of 2003
The Deficit Reduction Act of 2005
Tax Increase Prevention and Reconciliation Act of 2005
The 2001 Bush Tax Cuts [HR 1836, 3/26/01]
The 2003 Bush Tax Cuts [HR 2, 3/23/03]
Tax Increase Prevention and Reconciliation Act of 2005 [HR 4297, 5/11/06]
The Deficit Reduction Act of 2005 [H. Con Res. 95, 12/21/05]

The tax cuts from 2001-2005 were a significant cause of the ballooning federal budget deficit under GWB.

Democrats, put the Public Option in and pass it. The People have your back.
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ghee99
12:36 AM on 01/30/2010
after recently reading this in a news story today

"It reads like a dream order for a wild frat party: Maker's Mark whiskey, Courvoisier cognac, Johnny Walker Red scotch, Grey Goose vodka, E&J brandy, Bailey's Irish Crème, Bacardi Light rum, Jim Beam whiskey, Beefeater gin, Dewars scotch, Bombay Sapphire gin, Jack Daniels whiskey … and Corona beer.

But that single receipt makes up just part of the more than $101,000 taxpayers paid for "in-flight services" – including food and liquor, for House Speaker Nancy Pelosi's trips on Air Force jets over the last two years. That's almost $1,000 per week."

i don't feel i can trust nancy with being in charge of the peoples money

sure, there are bigger wastes of money, but this just shows a certain lack of respect for the hard-earned money of taxpayers,
and i am sure that lack of respect exists in other parts of her decision making process

so, until we get someone a bit more frugal in office, she wont get my support
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JamesinDentonTX
sorry, my micro-bio does not meet guidelines
05:20 PM on 01/30/2010
Nancy Pelosi is the only one in a leadership position that has consistently been fighting for health care reform. I have great confidence that she will do what is necessary to pass health care reform, despite what UBS bankers, Arkansas and Louisiana "democrats" and anyone else says. I think this is a pretty weak article, by the way.
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CherokeeGirl
one pissed off Indian.
08:00 PM on 01/29/2010
Just pass the public option thru reconciliation. Other countries like Australia and Canada did this years ago. They all sit back and point and laugh at us corruption-driven Americans who protect special interests more than the people. The only thing that will prove this is not true is to pass it.

Nobody will deny us Medicare, come on dems, you have to SELL IT! It's just Medicare! Stop cowering!

Also, use your majority and stop allowing the republicans to tell you what you can and can't do!
02:35 AM on 01/31/2010
Why muck up the entire health care system with more mandates, committees, insurance?

Solution as with any industry is consumer power; get the patient selecting and paying directly most "normal care" bills through robust tax-free Health Savings Accounts, either cash or payment schedule.

Patients/consumers in control, health care industry competes, lowers costs, patient ratings for doctors, hospitals, clinics, etc. available over the internet, better service just like food or travel.
07:34 PM on 01/29/2010
This is a desperate time for people without insurance because all the newly uninsured are mostly those who have lost jobs and this is not just because of a lay off, it is because of "job migration"
In other words, America has left the building....

Need to focus on creating some jobs. NOW...not just keep talking about it.
Start the WPA and the CCC back up the way they did in the 30's when so many people were out of work. The Gov't is paying people anyway thru unemployment and welfare benefits.
Then, when people work, they can be able to pay into the system.
In the meantime, make more county hospitals available and give Dr.s an incentive to treat people without ins. until America can hopefully get back on it's feet again.
03:42 PM on 01/29/2010
The Democratic party alone, should not have to take all the responsibility for solving America's problems. The Republicans have always known how difficult it would be for every single Democrat to vote yes on any issue. The GOP has played nasty politics from day one and now they think the country is going to side with them. They may be right although it turns my stomach to think that. Jim De Mint is just not to be believed, trying to claim he did not do all he could to make health care, a Waterloo for the President and the Democratic party. How can our country reward Republicans for playing politics at such a vulnerable time for all of us.
03:33 PM on 01/29/2010
There are not 60 democrats in the senate. The moderates control the senate. Am I the only one that can count. Obama can count,now get off his back.
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zbowling
software engineer, geek
12:15 AM on 01/30/2010
You have been fooled by the 60 vote majority trick they are playing. 51 is a majority. How did the republicans get all their legislation passed, if you believe this story? All they have to do is vote to restore the real filibuster but it will give the lie away. It doesn't help that they are too lazy to do a real filibuster either. 60 votes is a supermajority, with this many votes they could shove any legislation through without debate, what they've been trying to do.

Here is a small collection of links that are easy to understand and fairly short. Read them and you will get pissed off, like you should be. .. Please, please read this!
http://seminal.firedoglake.com/diary/27105#comment-135228
03:28 PM on 01/29/2010
Two single payer doctors were arrested this morning outside the Renaissance Baltimore Harborplace Hotel where President Obama was scheduled to speak to a retreat of House Republicans.

Dr. Margaret Flowers and Dr. Carol Paris were carrying a sign that said: Just Letting You Know: Medicare for All.

Dr. Flowers went to the White House yesterday to deliver a letter to Obama asking him to consider a single payer,Medicare for all health care system....

Flowers, Paris and the majority of doctors and nurses in America believe that approach is a single payer national health insurance system.

Obama himself, when he was a state Senator in Illinois in 2003, said single payer was the way to go.

But last year, he cut deals with the pharmaceutical and health insurance industries in a now failed attempt to get through tinkering reforms.

http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2010/01/29-4
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bthechangeyouseek
04:12 PM on 01/29/2010
Does anyone know why they were arrested?
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scottw
03:16 PM on 01/29/2010
How fast would a bill get passed if the House/Senate did not have their own gold plated plans? So easy to blame the failure to pass health reform on politics, lack of a super majority, etc., while so many suffer along with either no insurance, or insurance that is pushing them into bankruptcy. Not sure why more Americans are not revolting at a Congress that throws billions at big banks/businesses/the military, and nothing at them.
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FlyFishMT247
03:07 PM on 01/29/2010
According to polls (which I do take with a grain of salt), the majority of the U.S. citizens wanted to see a change in the health care system. Furthermore, a majority favored at least a public option, w/ those identifying themselves as Republicans slightly favoring the public option. Yet, the media portrays the failure of Congress, controlled by the Dems, to pass the legislation as a matter of the public's opinion? I'm dumbfounded.

The failure to pass legislation even comparable to the rest of the industrialized, elite nations is owned by the Keystone Cops on Capitol Hill, not the citizens of the United States. Take some responsibility, own up to it, and for God's sake would you people get SOMETHING accomplished!!