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Some Republicans Fret That Opposition To New Obama Measures Could Seriously Backfire

First Posted: 03/31/10 06:12 AM ET Updated: 05/25/11 04:20 PM ET

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Some senior Republican strategists and party veterans are beginning to fret that the party's refusal to work with President Obama, even when he crosses onto their own philosophical turf, could ultimately erode some of the political gains they've made this past year.

Over the past two weeks, Republicans in Congress have united in nearly unanimous opposition to a series of ideologically conservative policy suggestions, starting with a commission to reduce the deficit, a pay-go provision that would limit new expenditures, and a spending freeze on non-military programs.

Opposition has usually been based on specific policy concerns or complaints that the measures aren't going far enough. But the message being sent is that the GOP's sole mission is presidential destruction.
Now, some in the party are beginning to worry.

"I can't tell you why they are taking this approach," said Jim Kolbe, a former member of Congress and longtime fiscal hawk from Arizona. "I have doubts about some of them myself but I think that certainly the pay-go and the commission have some merit and we should be supporting those. I don't have an answer to this. Whether this is just part of them being philosophically opposed or are they just being obstructionists, I don't know?

"I do think there is that worry [that we come off as obstructionists]," Kolbe added. "I think this thing can turn around just as fast as it turned against the Democrats, it can turn the other way if the Republican don't respond with serious proposals here."

In the past, Republicans have supported similar proposals. Four Republican Senators who in 2006 backed a pay-go measure that would require Congress to offset every dollar spent with other funds voted against the measure in 2010. The cap on discretionary, non-military spending that had members of Obama's own party howling in horror was pulled from Republican John McCain's own presidential campaign platform -- and yet, the Arizona Republican said this past week that the president now wasn't going far enough. Five GOP Senators who co-sponsored a debt commission bill that would recommend deficit-cutting measures for Congress to vote on then rejected the idea when it came up for a vote this week.

"I think the bottom line is you have to look at them bill by bill," said Ed Rollins, a long time Republican strategist. "The reality is the things where consistently the Republicans have been in the past, like pay as you go, I think we should be supportive of. That is the place where we should go.

"You should be able to find common ground. If you engage on things that are basically consistent with your ideology, it will give you more credibility in arguing things that aren't," Rollins added. "The drill can't be to just make Obama look bad. The stimulus bill was legitimate to oppose. But if the next jobs bill is really something that will create jobs and benefit America then I think there will be a lot of Republicans supportive of it. And there should be.

"If the president was smart," Rolllins said, "he would keep putting these things into individual bills without poison pill ad ons and make Republicans vote."

Some Republicans objections, of course, are not solely based in Obama-rejection. Grover Norquist's group, Americans For Tax Reform, for example, has put out several policy papers imploring Republicans to vote against the debt commission out of fear that it would lead to tax increases. Kolbe called the idea of a spending cap "useless" because of the insignificant dent it would actually make on the debt.

But the rejection of measures that would limit government spending - especially at a time when the Republican Party is trying sidle up closer to the anti-government spending tea party movement -- could be politically damaging. So in the long run, the Republican Party could hurt itself by not meeting Obama part way.

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Some senior Republican strategists and party veterans are beginning to fret that the party's refusal to work with President Obama, even when he crosses onto their own philosophical turf, could ultimat...
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Downrivers
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10:24 AM on 02/03/2010
INDEPENDENTS........The Daily KOS/Research 2000 poll AND the right wing posters here illustrate exactly why the present incarnation of the GOP must be left to rot in the wilderness. As much of a disappointment Obama has been, these people are FAR WORSE.

http://www.dailykos.com/statepoll/2010/1/31/US/437

The simple fact that six Republican Senators walked away from their own bill for political hay tells the entire country that their agenda is to cripple the nation. This is borderline treason.
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global mean temperature, obviously INCREASING
12:05 PM on 02/04/2010
Yup. I'm frequently told that I'm too harsh to gopers. I can't wait until the next time one of them whines to me that I'm being unfair to them. I'm just going to post that poll, and say "No, look, I'm not exaggerating or makiing fun, you REALLY ARE just a bunch of brainless bigots."
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saintaug1
10:40 AM on 02/01/2010
To continue this administrations reliance on false information, The UN based their position, in part on a disertation written by a geography student, studying for the equivalent of a master's degree, at the University of Berne in Switzerland that quoted interviews with mountain guides in the Alps. The UN claims their position is still valid even though they rely on college students and corrupted weather data. Why not information on this at the HP?
09:31 AM on 02/01/2010
The GOP is in a very confused situation: they want to cast a play in HELL, but they want the actors to be SAINTS and ANGELS!
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1dogs2
08:40 AM on 02/01/2010
GOPpers "come off as obstructionists" because they ARE obstructionists. Their leaders are so arrogant and stupid that they ANNOUNCED their strategy of obstructionism for the purpose of destroying this President. They have tried to sell the story that that they haven't been consulted and claim to have been ignored (which is what they actually did to the Democrats for years) while we watched hearing after hearing in which various House and Senate committees debated and voted on GOP amendments to the various health care bills, accepting some and rejecting others.

It has finally dawned on them that being seen as the Party of No isn't helpful to them. Hence the sudden rash of talking points from such unreliable sources as the Heritage Foundation trying to paint the DEMS as the Party of No on this and other sites.
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saintaug1
10:41 AM on 02/01/2010
They're trying to obstruct the destruction of this economy by this adminstration.
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1dogs2
12:37 PM on 02/01/2010
Too late for that. They had already destroyed the economy before this administration ever took office, as anyone who lives in the real world of facts and consequences knows.
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vonPinto
Who Dares Win.
07:37 AM on 02/01/2010
Republicans are stretching their luck too far. I guess they will realize late what hit them.

They should ask Pres. Obama how his "luck" ran out very fast with some voters.
02:18 AM on 02/01/2010
"On Friday President Obama appeared before House Republicans in a historic televised Q&A and performed so well, afterwards GOP aides said that allowing cameras to roll like that was a mistake. Come on Republicans, are you on such a Scott Brown high you thought you could take down Barack Obama by debating him? You realize debates are why he is President, right? Seriously, all you do is complain how Obama is all talk and then you invite him to a forum that is literally all talk. That's like saying lets see how tough Aquaman is once we get him in the water. I'm not saying you were outclassed but the whole thing was like the scene in Raiders of the Lost Ark when the guy charged at Indiana Jones with the sword and he just shot him." ~Seth Myers, SNL Weekend Update

http://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live/video/clips/weekend-update-highlights/1198010
12:39 AM on 02/01/2010
I don't understand what's so hard to understand???!!! If we do not fix healthcare there will be no economy....Republicans would rather destroy the country to prove and ideological point!!
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01:34 AM on 02/01/2010
being an idea log hurts everyone,when this economy turns the Republicans are dead meat
11:53 PM on 01/31/2010
Why bother with the opposition? Just refuse to sign a single bill until the Democratic caucus grows a pair and decides to pass health care legislation (and for that matter any legislation), through reconciliation, just as the Republicans did to exponentially raise the deficit. Enough about this idea of bipartisanship, who cares who passes the bills as long as they get passed. If Democrats can't see themselves voting for legislation that's supported by majorities in both houses, then they aren't real Democrats. Throw them to the Tea Party, see how much they appreciate centrists in their "New Republican Party." If there's anything Americans hate more than bad policies, its failure. When you dedicate an entire year to a single piece of legislation, then you better have something to show for it come the midterm elections. Letting Ben Nelson, Bill Nelson, Mary Landrieu, Joe Lieberman, and Blanche Lincoln hijack the legislative process because they fear a conservative backlash that they are going to receive anyway for not doing ANYTHING is stupidity at its core. Democrats deserve to lose...if there not real Democrats, then don't let them in your party! Is it that difficult to understand that you get blamed when you have numbers, even if you don't? That's exactly why moderates vote for the GOP in the first place. They get things done. Period.
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oscartucker
"Let us march on 'til victory is won"
11:15 PM on 01/31/2010
I know that the repubs want to let health care go and focus on jobs now. I wonder how committed they are going to be to that? When President Obama at the SOTU said that tax breaks had to stop going to companies that had moved their business out of the country, the repubs did not jump up and express support. What do they want? How will they help?

People need jobs, but WHAT is being made in the USA? If you look at the tags in any garmet, it states made everywhere, EXCEPT the USA. If you look at toys and gadgets, it's the same.

How can some of those manufacturers come back? Can we look for and buy only American-made products. Something has to be made for there to be jobs. Things can be fixed, repaired, created.
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TheGuide
10:30 PM on 01/31/2010
"Whether this is just part of them being philosophically opposed or are they just being obstructionists, I don't know?"


If he doesn't know why then why have he gone along with them this long?
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Cynth
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09:02 PM on 01/31/2010
So much for "Country First."
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10:46 PM on 01/31/2010
Republicans are political terrorists.
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01:39 AM on 02/01/2010
they are worse than external enemies, because by delay,obstructionism,and a flawed ideology , the have and will do more harm than any enemy, because they have morphed into a weird dynamic of politics, What is the worst is they have no regard for anyone and are the traitors within.
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08:43 PM on 01/31/2010
Republicans may say that pay-go is philosophically consistent with their goals but they rejected it during the Bush years when even Alan Greenspan and Bush's own first Treasury Secretary Paul O'Neill said it would be a good idea. Bush choose to pay for nothing, not his wars nor his tax cuts and he made no budgetary cuts. Now that Obama is turning his attention to the economy and deficit reduction Republicans will pay a political price if they remain the party of "no" much longer. The president is reaching out to them on their own turf by proposing tax credits for small business hiring and Republicans must help to govern or continue to calcify. They are probably the only group of people in the world who do not believe in global warming, in evolution, and who still believe in supply side economics. They are the party always railing against "elitism", but have done more to increase the concentration of income more than anyone else.
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bordway
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07:54 AM on 02/01/2010
Lots of people don't remember Paul O'Neill's pleading with Bush over the tax cuts he was proposing. Between that and the lack of support for the Iraq invasion, he didn't last long. There's a man that needs to write a book.
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1dogs2
08:25 AM on 02/01/2010
He did.
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06:21 PM on 02/01/2010
He wrote a great book with Ron Suskind called THe Price of Loyalty. It told about Bush's foibles and that he could not tie his own shoes. It was so interesting because it was the first honest book to come out about Bush in a line of hard hitting books.
08:05 PM on 01/31/2010
A blog has connected Obama's statement, Saturday, that The-Party-Of-No opposed the Recovery Act, but reaped its benefits. Has Cantor (house) and McConnel (senate) as examples. They put party before country. Shameful.

http://palinquestions.blogspot.com/2010/01/shameless-republican-leaders-put-party.html
06:20 PM on 01/31/2010
If the Repubs are smart, they will fight Obama on every issue. This is good politics, but most importantly, good for the country.

Obama's policies are destructive to the country for obvious reasons. On the political front, the Repubs need to draw a clear line between the Obama - Reid - Pelosi let Democrat party and have their own agenda. It is fairly easy to do given the radical Left policies of the Democrat party.
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Cynth
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09:00 PM on 01/31/2010
You must not be a fiscal conservative, then.
10:37 AM on 02/01/2010
I am a "fiscal conservative" AND a "social conservative".

You comment does not make a lot of sense.
09:25 PM on 01/31/2010
So whats the conservative solution? Keep raising the deficits to pay for Republican spending programs, then blame the Democrats 8 years later when they get elected for raising the deficit? Wasn't it the 2nd Coming himself that said that deficits don't matter?Tax cuts cost money when they aren't offset with spending cuts. Have the "conservatives" all of a sudden "rediscovered" their philosophy? I'd rather have massive deficits if there is something to show for it at home, instead of Patriot missiles and M16 ammunition. Or maybe the "conservatives" see America's new demography as the perfect opportunity to leave the New America as a 3rd rate power, owing trillions to Communist China with nothing to show for it? I don't know, I'm just hypothesizing, like your hero Glen Beck. I don't know what's so radical about helping your own people instead of blowing up someone elses. As I can recall to the times of World War I and II, real conservatism was isolationism, not war mongering across the world. I know most of you conservatives don't read books, but yes, conservatism did exist before Ronald Reagan. That was when we didn't start wars, we finished them. Of course Obama had to observe the Pottery Barn rule as it pertains to Iraq and Afghanistan, but what happens once we elect a conservative? Bombs over Tehran? Maybe assassinate Hugo Chavez like the great Pat Robertson has called for....? Such sound policies for a country that's 1.4 trillion dollars in debt...
11:49 AM on 02/01/2010
I wish we were only $1.4 trillion in debt. It is closer to $13 trillion if you DON'T county the unfunded liabilities of medicare and medicaid.

I have many posts outlining the way for us to get out of the hole which are on this thread.
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06:01 PM on 01/31/2010
Be afraid. Be very afraid.